The Audience Won't Like It
Married hosts Rob and Leslie Shoecraft invite you into their closet (literally) for a podcast that’s equal parts nostalgia trip, music nerd-out, and absurd banter. Born from a joke about how the audience probably won’t like it, the show leans into that spirit—riffing on everything from Star Trek episodes and Kitty Wells deep cuts, to feet, crockpots, and cover songs that live on YouTube thanks to copyright.
Each week, the conversation drifts like two people killing time in line for a concert—unexpected, hilarious, and sometimes strangely profound. Future episodes explore growing up in the 80s and 90s, The Dollhouse Murders, “5 of 5” and borrowed chords in music theory, bodybuilding meal prep, Wu-Tang Clan, Gordon Lightfoot, Alan Thicke, Herb Alpert, and whatever other rabbit holes pop up along the way.
If you like side tangents, forgotten pop culture, and covers of songs your mom might love, you might just find that you do like it after all.
The Audience Won't Like It
Ep 10 - "Loves Me Like a Rock"; Sandman “The Sound of Her Wings”; Usher & Steely Dan
Two hosts unwind with tea and soup, bounce from Usher to Steely Dan, then dive deep into The Sandman’s “The Sound of Her Wings.” We trace Death’s quiet mercy, Hob’s stubborn hope, and end with a joyful Paul Simon cover that lifts the room.
• quick hits on Usher, Steely Dan, Nightfly, and Larry Carlton
• tea rituals, Ayurveda warmth, and why soup season works
• Bridge of Spies vs JFK, Mark Rylance’s craft, El Camino’s epilogue energy
• Jesse Plemons as the friendly psychopath archetype
• The Sandman S1E6: Death’s rounds, function as purpose, tenderness without sentimentality
• Hob Gadling across centuries, friendship that outlasts pride
• ethics and immortality, timeline quibbles, Doctor Who parallels
• Paul Simon’s Loves Me Like A Rock: gospel harmonies, Muscle Shoals, Dixie Hummingbirds
• favorite covers: O’Jays, Ramsey Lewis Trio, dream pick Queen
• chord talk, flat seven lift, arranging a live outro without a fade
If you want to hear us cover the song, you gotta go to YouTube. We’ll put a link to it in the description
Sermon I mentioned: https://youtu.be/2YxRQnpbIHQ?si=cfxGOmw_ayBkzY2m
📺 Watch this episode on our YouTube Channel!
This is also where you can watch our covers of the songs we discuss.
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Can I try some of this Demi Gorgon Crunch?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, we bought it for you. Help yourself.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, thank you. Do not call me again though, because we're recording.
SPEAKER_01:That was rude.
SPEAKER_04:Demi Gorgon Crunch. Not rude.
SPEAKER_01:We'll uh give it a couple of things. We'll get into that. Oh, thank you so long, time.
SPEAKER_00:Two married friends in a little room surrounded by clothing and two microphones. They got in a car crash. Dang it. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips. Cause she was still warm the audience won't like it. No.
SPEAKER_01:Oh. I almost got it. And then I hit the wrong chord.
SPEAKER_04:That's okay. I took some exploratory liberties with what I was singing as well.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's uh. I said this last time, but it's gonna be. It's already a gag. I think I just have to screw it up every time.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. I wanna I want to see if we can do it right.
SPEAKER_01:Check it out. No, no, no, not right now.
SPEAKER_04:Do it. Not right now.
SPEAKER_01:I never prayed.
SPEAKER_04:You have to work for it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh. Let me fix this mic.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, welcome. Welcome to the audio. Oh, thank you. Thanks for having me. Like it. And interviewing my guest today in the studio is Rob Shoecraft.
SPEAKER_01:Just a guy who you found in line we kind of hit it off.
SPEAKER_04:Or Paul Simon.
SPEAKER_01:Paul Simon, 1973, I believe.
SPEAKER_04:We're time travelers.
SPEAKER_01:Loves me like a rock.
SPEAKER_04:He does. He loves me like a rock, too.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, Paul Simon does.
SPEAKER_04:Is he dead?
SPEAKER_01:No, he's not. He's uh I think he's in his eighties.
SPEAKER_04:If we were gonna make merch, I think it would say.
SPEAKER_01:Is he dead? Is he dead? If he's alive, he can come if he's really awesome. Paul Simon can come. He likes things to be a certain way.
SPEAKER_04:Does he?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Is he kind of that way?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but you know, he's also kind of one of the best songwriters of all time. So I can't. He just barely made it. Now when you die for sure, come on. Yeah, sure. Till then, yeah, come in. But he's gonna ride in on the sound of Simon. Wow. Simon and Garfunkel song, though.
SPEAKER_04:Is that a different person? Garfunkel has to wait.
SPEAKER_01:Garfunkel has to wait to die. Wait, I'm sorry, what? What was the question? Is Art Garfunkel a different person than Paul Simon?
SPEAKER_04:No, no, no. Simon and Garfunkel, isn't that Paul Simon? Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. No, that's still very good. I believe he wrote the lyrics of that song anyway. Um okay. So yeah, we will be talking about Loves Me Like a Rock at some point when we strapped when we see the show.
SPEAKER_04:We are That's the last thing we're gonna do today.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we're gonna talk about a lot of stuff. Gosh. We should so this is the premise of the show is two people married. Well easy.
SPEAKER_04:Sorry.
SPEAKER_01:They might be married, they might not be. They don't really know each other though.
SPEAKER_04:So they're probably not married.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they could be talking about they could be in a ranged marriage. Like there's a lot of countries that do that. I really wish you weren't so ethnocentric.
SPEAKER_04:Oh me? Because I'm uh just not even entertaining the idea of arranged marriage. No.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, it does. New school.
SPEAKER_04:Um we'll have to talk about it.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Do you want me to talk about it now?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Speaking of how a lot of movies keep that in mind. Sometimes people's worlds are very small.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, what do you mean on the way home from trips?
SPEAKER_04:And they don't know that other people don't know that when they put their left turn signal on and start to turn left and get into the other lane and are no longer in your lane, that you should know that they are putting their car in reverse and coming back into your lane. And I really think that that woman thought we should know that because that's where she lives.
SPEAKER_01:It's a commentary on just general ignorance. I'm I'm working at my top tip for the small commentary on why you should always be vigilant when you drive.
SPEAKER_04:Well, that's true.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Especially on these country rounds.
SPEAKER_01:When you're getting out, especially getting out of this place. Man, this Paul Simon must be pretty popular. This is quite a crowd. Whoa. I love I love just going in and out of uh whether or not we're in line. Whether or not we're in line. So we wait in line, we have small talk.
SPEAKER_04:We do.
SPEAKER_01:We talk about a lot of music. We talk about movies, pop culture, video movies.
SPEAKER_04:We talk about um food and tea today.
SPEAKER_01:We talk about Sandman, it might come up. I just watched this episode of The Sandman the other night.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Is it the Sandman? Or is it just Sandman?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think it's the Sandman.
SPEAKER_01:I think it is the, yeah. Yeah, we'll we'll talk about that.
SPEAKER_04:Um but we usually have like one main thing we talk about. Yeah. And some some other music.
SPEAKER_01:There's lots of sprinkles. Just sprinkles. I love sprinkles.
SPEAKER_04:He does love sprinkles. If you want. We should get a P.O. box so people can send you sprinkles.
SPEAKER_01:Just send sprinkles. It's better than like those glitter bombs. Sprinkle bombs would be great. I'd be like, please be a sprinkle bomb. Oh gosh. You mean like I'll have like a donut like ready to catch it.
SPEAKER_04:A glory cloud made out of sprinkles.
SPEAKER_01:Glory cloud. I'm not allowed to go to a church that has a glory cloud.
SPEAKER_04:No one shouldn't be going to a church with a glory cloud.
SPEAKER_01:How dare you? The audience will not like that.
SPEAKER_04:They shouldn't like a glory cloud.
SPEAKER_01:Jeez. I think we could have a glory cloud in here. I just don't think it's necessary at church. Well, it is necessary, I guess.
SPEAKER_04:In a closet. It's necessary. It is necessary at church.
SPEAKER_01:We blew our entire uh podcasting budget on a glory cloud machine.
SPEAKER_04:I love to hate a glory cloud, never even seen one. I'm not even entirely sure I'm just gonna do it.
SPEAKER_01:If you have a glory cloud, does it have to have does it have to come out of a little hole in the wall?
SPEAKER_04:I think in the ceiling.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay. I don't know if you got my joke.
SPEAKER_04:I did. But I wanted to direct steer it speedily away.
SPEAKER_01:That's good. Look at you, girl. You're a good wife. All right, so um what else do we oh we do a cover at the end of, or sorry, Paul Simon does a cover a cover of his own song. Wait.
unknown:Wait.
SPEAKER_01:We do a cover of a Paul Simon song.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, if you don't know, sometimes we bring instruments to these concerts.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Where the guy stands in line with the instrument and plays all the Paul Simon songs.
SPEAKER_04:To kind of get you going.
SPEAKER_01:Swears that he likes Garfunkel more because of some obscure reason that no one can exactly argue with, but they also know he's full of crap.
SPEAKER_04:We have the piano book of Simon and Garfunkel's Greatest Hits, piano music. And I think it's the same image. Was there a CD, a Garfunkel's Greatest Hits CD, where they're like one of them's wearing like a hat?
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, which one has the blonde Garfunkel?
SPEAKER_01:Okay, that's what I think. Do you really not know what Paul Simon looks like?
SPEAKER_04:I love Paul Simon. He's uh what he looks like.
SPEAKER_01:I want to say he's like 5'4. He's good smaller gentleman.
SPEAKER_04:Smaller than me.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I'm a 5'10 gentleman.
SPEAKER_01:That's fine.
SPEAKER_04:What size are a gentleman?
SPEAKER_01:He packs a punch on the mic.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, he does.
SPEAKER_01:If you will. Okay, no, we're not talking about Paul Simon right now. You know what we're gonna talk about right now? Yeah. It's a consumption corner.
SPEAKER_04:My consumption corner this week features actual consumption.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, do tell.
SPEAKER_04:No, you start.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, well, uh, you know, why don't we start with some some rapid fire stuff? You know what we did?
SPEAKER_04:What?
SPEAKER_01:We listened to two things on the way home from uh contest? From a band contest. Our daughter had a state competition.
SPEAKER_04:She did. Shout out to your marching band, honey.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they got, you know, whatever. They did well. They did well. But whatever. You guys don't care about that. We do, but we won't put you through that. What did we listen to, honey? We listened to Usher.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. Listen to like two Usher albums. They call me U S H E R R A Y M O N D. Now, baby, tell me what you want to do with me.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know the name? I don't have it written down, but do you know the names of the two albums we listened to?
SPEAKER_04:Well, that one I think is called My Way.
SPEAKER_01:I think it is called the Oh, is that the first is that the first album?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Hmm.
SPEAKER_04:Was it number? Gosh. We love US.
SPEAKER_01:I said rapid fire.
SPEAKER_04:Uh it's the one that goes Yeah, you remind me. I do love the song.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like we could cover that too.
SPEAKER_04:I think it had a number as a fun to do it.
SPEAKER_01:Fun to try it.
SPEAKER_04:Four letter number, four-digit number. Four letter number.
SPEAKER_01:I saw Usher do a backflip one time on TV when I was in high school, maybe. Did you? That's cool.
SPEAKER_04:Shout out to my friend Holly for having that My Way album.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:She had a she had a uh well listen, she had a Jack and She had I guess it wasn't a Jack and Jill bathroom. She had a bathroom where she shared the bathroom part with her brother and it had a sink and shower and toilet. But then within her room she had her own little vanity area with a sink and everything.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_04:And we we made some real memories in that bedroom vanity bathroom area.
SPEAKER_01:Just uh do you like say uh turn the lights off and say Usher's name three times hopefully he comes out of the mirror?
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. And he did. He petty us. That was a bloody. That's where I learned to brush my teeth in the shower.
SPEAKER_01:It Usher taught you that? It came out of the mirror. First things first, dental hygiene.
SPEAKER_04:That's I remember Holly. Holly saying that she didn't like to brush her teeth after the shower because then she was all watered out.
SPEAKER_01:You're like, I like to do it like this. He's like, you do it my way. What I say to you.
SPEAKER_04:This is what you do.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's good.
SPEAKER_04:Anyway, so yeah, we listened to Usher. It really took me back.
SPEAKER_00:Usher's, you know, he's cool.
SPEAKER_04:He is great. I like the Confessions album. It came out when we were in college. He's on my confessions.
SPEAKER_01:Did he do a lot of stuff with uh with uh what's his face? Um I don't care. Let's move on. We'll talk about Usher some other time.
SPEAKER_04:He probably will never. It's fine though. I don't have anything else I want to say about him.
SPEAKER_01:We're gonna Well, like I I could talk about Royal Scam, which is what we also listen to.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Uh we listened to Royal Scam and Nightfly. The Donald Fagin solo album, Royal Scam, which is Steve Dano. Um I wrote it down when we pulled over to get gas. I just have notes. It's just stuff to talk about. I love Royal Scam. We talked about it last time. No, we talked about a couple podcasts ago with we're talking about parcels, the band parcels.
SPEAKER_04:The Australian band.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Likes mail.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes. And uh I brought up Royal Scam, so I always like to listen to that album every now and then. 1976. Uh Larry Carlton is all over that one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:We've seen him in cons.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm. Great show. Highly recommend checking him out if you get a chance.
SPEAKER_04:And you might want to get on it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, what no. Well, he's not as old as Bob James. No, Bob James is uh I'm going to see Bob James for the for the second time here with my daughter in January.
SPEAKER_04:Possibly your daughter. What night is of the week is it?
unknown:Oh, I don't know. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Friday. It's a Friday. Okay. Maybe Friday. Maybe Saturday.
SPEAKER_04:It's definitely free.
SPEAKER_01:It's a day of the week for sure. Um, so then we're gonna go. Yeah, Bob James is getting up there. Maybe I'll live another 10 years and just be rocking.
SPEAKER_04:He can come to our show.
SPEAKER_01:Larry Carlton's got ten years planned for sure. He's kind of a kind of uh looks like a healthy guy. No?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, he definitely does. He looks like a great healthy man.
SPEAKER_01:He looks like he like picks wine. It like picks grapes and makes w makes his own wine or something.
SPEAKER_04:How do you pick wine? Like choose it at Aldi? Do I want the$3.99? It's actually really hard to all have the$8.99.
SPEAKER_01:What kind of pairings uh do you have?
SPEAKER_04:Dude, the people at Aldi probably know.
SPEAKER_01:They probably do know. They're all bomb people there. Shout out to you guys. This Veterans Day. It's Valentine's Day. We remember um the folks at Haldi who are veterans.
SPEAKER_04:We should remember real veterans if you're gonna bring that up.
SPEAKER_01:I am. Thank you, Veterans, but they're not gonna hit this. It's absurd because we won't air this for like a month after Veterans Day. But we gotta get on our Christmas.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I want you to just do everything.
SPEAKER_01:But you what are you gonna talk about?
SPEAKER_04:Tea and soup.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Let's let me talk about a movie real quick, then we'll pivot into pivot into tea.
SPEAKER_04:Something that you clearly think is dumb.
SPEAKER_01:No, I I will drink tea if somebody hands me tea.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I didn't know that. We have no less than 400 marks.
SPEAKER_01:Anytime I go to a uh to a uh Chinese restaurant.
SPEAKER_04:I want the tea.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I want the tea.
SPEAKER_04:Go ahead and talk about your movie though.
SPEAKER_00:I want to know about tea. Yogi in the tea mood. Let me have a sip of that.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, well, I'm currently ingesting a uh yogi brand, I think is the brand.
SPEAKER_01:Blackberry picnic baskets.
SPEAKER_04:Wow, I don't know about a type. What does a picnic basket taste like?
SPEAKER_01:Well, yogi. Wood?
SPEAKER_04:Oh. No, it smells like good.
SPEAKER_01:It's really good. It's quite good. It has a pretty healthy spell. It smells like dessert. Scourge of it. How much honey's in there? Sklurge?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, a healthy sclurge.
SPEAKER_01:Is that a thing?
SPEAKER_04:Splurge?
SPEAKER_01:You're wasting we got 90 minutes.
SPEAKER_04:If you've ever here's a word that's gonna be hard for you to know what I'm saying. Ayurveda is a lifestyle. It's like, oh, it's like an eastern ancient way of living, and I've adopted many of its principles into my life very wonderfully, I might add. One of them is to have lots of warm beverages and to have a nightly ritual. And so it was a great time to start drinking tea. So I told your mom I was drinking tea, and then what was that like March?
SPEAKER_01:She brought me she pretty much clear I think she recovered everything that was in Boston Harbor.
SPEAKER_04:I think she did, and she sent it to us.
SPEAKER_01:She sent it to us.
SPEAKER_04:So we're still working our way through all the time. It's a magical time though, because you just I mean, I feel like I haven't even had one of everything yet.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_04:So and and now that the weather is getting colder and the time has changed and it's much darker outside at five o'clock, I'm back into my tea.
SPEAKER_01:Five o'clock, it's four eleven.
SPEAKER_04:I know, but in in five o'clock it'll be dirty. Dark. Dark.
SPEAKER_01:Whoa, it might be dirty.
SPEAKER_04:It won't be.
SPEAKER_01:See, let's get that tea rocking. Let's do it.
SPEAKER_04:I'm drunk upon tea.
SPEAKER_01:Can continue, please.
SPEAKER_04:Uh so anyway, I'm very much enjoying my teas this week. I have really picked back up on my tea. And I've added it. I just want to say, while Rob is getting us set up into our closet with podcast equipment, I take that time to make myself tea and a snack.
SPEAKER_01:Is it good for your voice?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, but having um calories is good for my ability to do this podcast. And so while you're working feverishly at setting us up, I'm making myself food.
SPEAKER_01:That's good. No, it's uh it's important. I need to stay fed as well, as you know. I do. I get very, very upset when I don't.
SPEAKER_04:So anyway, that's my tea corner.
SPEAKER_01:Cool. You got caffeine in there?
SPEAKER_04:No. Okay. I only drink caffeine until about nine in the morning.
SPEAKER_01:Nine in the morning.
SPEAKER_04:Unless it's Saturday and we slept in or something.
SPEAKER_01:Cool. Cool.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Thanks for letting me have a tea moment.
SPEAKER_01:You're quite welcome. Thanks for telling me about it. Tea time. And you know what? Thanks for that sip. That was really good.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. I hope everyone appreciated it.
SPEAKER_01:They did.
SPEAKER_04:The sound of it.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Bridge of Spies is what I watched. Uh I'm not I think it's 20, maybe 2016.
SPEAKER_04:Did I want to watch that?
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:It's a well, you tell me. I'll tell you what it's about. It's the second. It's the second Cold War movie I've watched. Oh right. I watched JFK from 1991, Oliver Stone a few weeks ago. I talked about it.
SPEAKER_04:Twice.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're right. And then I'm not gonna talk about it more, other than to say if I have to take they're two pretty different movies, but not that different. They're both Cold War dramas. And I like Bridge of Spies. Honestly, I think I liked it a lot more. That's great. It's really good.
SPEAKER_04:Any famous people in it?
SPEAKER_01:Well, the reason I watched it is because I just watched The Outfit with Mark Rylance, and I didn't really know anything about that guy. Me so I'm like, but he's he was such a good actor, and I was like, like that's that guy's gotta be in more stuff. There's no way this is like his first movie or something. Yeah, he's like 60 too.
SPEAKER_04:So it's like 62?
SPEAKER_01:I think he's like 65, to be honest with you. But uh listen, I gotta level with you. You sit down. Mark Rylance is 65. Yeah. Anyways.
SPEAKER_04:He can probably collect some sort of social security or something.
SPEAKER_01:He's uh I think he's British. I don't know what they they probably you collect that probably when you're 12. 12, yeah. Good for them. They're great. Uh we do appreciate that.
SPEAKER_04:We know nothing about that.
SPEAKER_01:You gave us thanks to you, we got all that tea. Um, that's true. Yeah. Thank you. Again, people don't forget.
SPEAKER_04:Grandma T. That's why they call her that.
SPEAKER_01:Aww. Because she's yeah. So uh Bridge of Spies Tom Hanks is in it as well.
SPEAKER_04:We like him.
SPEAKER_01:He is awesome in that. I mean he's awesome. He's just great. But he those guys are just really good actors, and um I it's got a lot of cool themes in it. A lot of like a guy doing the right thing despite everybody saying it's wrong and sticking to his guns. It's got all this, like, all this kind of repeated motifs and things in the movie. I won't talk about it because you didn't watch it, it won't be as fun. But anybody who cares, Bridge of Spies is excellent. And Mark Rylance won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor in it.
SPEAKER_04:Can you spell his last name?
SPEAKER_01:R-Y-L-A-N-C-E.
SPEAKER_04:That's what I thought it sounded like you were saying.
SPEAKER_01:That's what I was saying.
SPEAKER_04:Um, like a bunch of letters put together. Rylance? What?
SPEAKER_01:What's in that T. Um and uh and I also watched uh El Camino.
SPEAKER_04:That one we watched, we have seen that, right? Is that how Clint East was?
SPEAKER_01:You have not. No, no, no, no. That's uh Green Torino. Great, great movie. But no, El Camino, you would not be interested in watching because it is a movie that takes place right after the basically right after Breaking Bad ends. And that's one of those shows that is definitely not a bedtime sitcom.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, no, not a bedtime show.
SPEAKER_01:Leslie can't. Well Leslie watched about two episodes of Breaking Bad. She's like, this is a really good show, but I can't watch it. You can watch it on the rest of you by yourself.
SPEAKER_03:For the rest of your life.
SPEAKER_01:And I did, and it's awesome. That's not shocking. I think it has like a 9.8 on the city.
SPEAKER_04:Better call Saul, didn't we?
SPEAKER_01:We did. We still have a few more. Anytime you want to fire that up again, I'm your man.
SPEAKER_04:We got lots to work through.
SPEAKER_01:El Camino was pretty good. It was here's the thing. It's like a lot happens, but kind of nothing happens at the same time. Um, again, you didn't see it, so I won't get into too much detail. But the thing that's cool about it is, first of all, if you're a breaking bad fan, you just have to watch it. Even if you don't like it, you have to watch it. It's it's got some cool stuff, and a lot of characters show up again that you kind of wondered about. And um every actor and every character on that show, even down to like this woman in a vacuum cleaner store with like three lines, you just it's just all really interesting and well done. Like just I don't know what all is involved in that. I guess it's everyone. But it's it's it's great. Jesse, uh, I think his name's Jesse Player.
SPEAKER_04:You mean what's all involved in creating a good movie?
SPEAKER_00:Well, just yeah, whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I don't know, you know, sometimes you could say, well, it's the director there, he's you know amazing. Or this actor just you know chooses scenery and carries everything. But like it's like everybody is a great actor in the show.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So but then everything they say is interesting, even though it's not. It's it's just yeah, it's just really well done. Um the ending was fine. It was fine. I I I definitely enjoyed it. I really so the the thing these two movies have in common is uh is Jesse uh I think his name's Jesse Plummins. And he is I don't want to be mean, he's an amazing actor. He kind of looks like like a man-child version of Matt Damon. He kind of looks like my Matt Damon's eight-year-old brother who went through. Yeah, I think. Yeah, he's so good at playing a creep. He's such a good actor.
SPEAKER_04:I mean he's a-we'll be watching that I saw him too, because you said he looks like a son, something. Or maybe you told me that he looked like uh well He might have been the host of the uh Great Courses.
unknown:Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. Anyway, continue.
SPEAKER_01:The host of the that's not even a thing. I know. Okay.
SPEAKER_04:The lecturer of the great course that you were listening to.
SPEAKER_01:Last night. Yeah. John McWarter.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So so Jesse Plemens, let me make sure. Can you yeah, Jesse Plemens, yeah. He I had to look at his name. I don't know him that well, but he's honestly I love him. He's in um, he's in that, he's in that episode of Black Mirror with the with the star, it's like a Star Trek clone. And he's like a psycho and he locks everybody in there. None of them have private parts because he's like a prude.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And he's just really he plays such a great creep. He was in Do you remember you remember we saw Game Night and that police officer neighbor who's like, oh, he's got that dog? Yeah. And he's just really, really uncomfortable and awkward.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's that guy. Well, he plays a super creep in breaking bed. He's like a really friendly psychopath. And anyways, super creepy. He makes the movie. He's worth watching the movie for. Alright. I may watch anything with that guy. No. Um what else do you want to know? You know, uh what else I was. I do, yeah, absolutely. I just got like three more shots.
SPEAKER_04:No, I won't. Just so you know, guys, Rob always comes with a long list of things to talk about, and I'm always like, what did I do last week?
SPEAKER_01:You do all sorts of great things. Some of these things he did with me. I know, that's right. I mean, we had Usher.
SPEAKER_04:We did. That was amazing. Shared Usher.
SPEAKER_01:Shared Usher. And Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04:Somebody Fabin.
SPEAKER_01:Fabled Fagan.
SPEAKER_04:Sammy Hagar.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04:Another thing I would highly recommend this time of year. I'm in my fall. I'm getting into fall. Now that it's November, I can wear my boots. Feel okay about wearing boots? Sweaters.
SPEAKER_01:I need to give new boots. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04:I have a new sweater with mountains on it, and I'd wait until January to wear that one, I think. Because it looks like it's a good one. Yeah, it's a little too wintry. We're not there yet. Anyway, soups. Highly recommend soups. We talked a little bit about Crock on the Crockpot episode. I think I was trumpeting the praises of my Dutch oven.
SPEAKER_02:That sounds like that. Yeah, my giggling.
SPEAKER_04:Uh and so I've used my Dutch oven, I don't know, six out of seven days last week. It's incredible. Stoop season. It was a soup week soup.
SPEAKER_03:Soup season.
SPEAKER_04:People will listen, you're not on the internet. People are saying soup season. I didn't make it up. It's not stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it burns my mouth.
SPEAKER_04:And I'm also also doubling down on the protein.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you've been hit.
SPEAKER_04:Protein soups have really checked a box of wanting to eat it and it getting me where I needed to be. I know the Lariveda, the cooked foods. So anyway, that's me. That's all I know.
SPEAKER_01:And I'm not a big soup guy.
SPEAKER_04:So I spent a lot of time looking into soup recipes this past week.
SPEAKER_01:That's where a lot of my The only reason I don't like soup is just It's too hot. It's too hot. It slows me down. So a couple ice cubes, we're good.
SPEAKER_04:You're good to go.
SPEAKER_01:I'm here with soup season. I'm in.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you better be because it's it's not over. The thing is, is if you don't make any suggestions, it's soup season for months.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:It's fine. Good. Fine.
SPEAKER_04:Fine.
SPEAKER_01:Fine.
SPEAKER_04:Fine.
SPEAKER_01:Uh I listened to six sermons on Galatians.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my goodness. And then you preached one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then I preached one.
SPEAKER_04:I did listen to that today.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's true. I said it came out of my face. Thank you very much. If you'd like to hear it, I'll link to it. I think. I it should be on YouTube.
SPEAKER_04:At some point. By the time this goes live, it probably will be on there.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04:We're a couple weeks behind with our recording, or ahead, rather.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes, for now. Uh hey, a good segue from uh church sermon is Scarface Tiny Desk. I watched this uh Scarface Tiny Desk concert for the second time. Um you watched some of that with me.
SPEAKER_04:Did I?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's he had a full full band in there. And he's a rapper.
SPEAKER_04:I know who he is. I don't remember. Was that this past week?
SPEAKER_01:He played a guitar too. He played like a I think he's got a strat or something.
SPEAKER_04:Is that reading?
SPEAKER_01:It was uh you know how after we watch a uh a show or something, sometimes we'll put on YouTube and watch another show? Like, oh, I don't know, uh Takanaka and Santana 81 super session.
SPEAKER_04:Uh-huh. We'd still be watching that if I wasn't like we have to go to bed.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh. Was that I know I know it's not half as cool to you as it is to me, but can you sort of see why I like it?
SPEAKER_04:I loved it.
SPEAKER_01:Did you really?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, sweet.
SPEAKER_04:I just wanted to go to bed.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:The that is the I didn't know that existed. Um by the way, Scarface, if you haven't seen Scarface show uh tiny desk, even if you don't like hip hop, you just watch it. It's really cool.
SPEAKER_04:You'll like whatever they're doing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um, but uh yeah, that show, I didn't know it existed. So I'm I've I've I've this past year I listened to Masyoshi Takanaka for the first time. And that dude is honestly he's like one of the most genius. I was so happy because it's this is so dorky, but like you can you know sometimes I know this is a stupid, stupid thing to say, but you almost feel like you've listened to everything you're ever gonna listen to and love. I've never felt that I never have actually felt that. But oh let me just say this. Let me phrase it a different way. I never I never go walk around thinking that.
SPEAKER_04:But apparently we do. But well, it you you're looking for something honey, it's okay to have big feelings.
SPEAKER_01:You're looking for something that's just gonna blow your mind right out of the gate. Be like, there's gotta be another Bob James for me, right?
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I see what you mean. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:I feel that way about Steely Dane.
SPEAKER_04:I feel that way about Orson Scott Card. I feel that way about books. I feel like I've read pretty much every kind of book, the best version of every kind of book that I'm ever gonna read. And I sometimes your mom says she can't wait to lose her memory so she can read all of our books again. I kind of get on board with that.
SPEAKER_01:It's great.
SPEAKER_04:So in that I can relate to that on that level.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so it's it's it's you know, I listened to this guy, Ian, sent me to it, uh sent me just he's like, I think he'd like this. I listened to it.
SPEAKER_04:I learned something when we watched that.
SPEAKER_01:What?
SPEAKER_04:I thought it was new music.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, oh.
SPEAKER_04:And it was from 1981.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, when you so when you've listened to me when you've heard me listening to it. I thought it was like within the last like five, ten years. No, it's he's he's been around for a long time.
SPEAKER_04:I think I thought that because you were listening to it uh kind of simultaneously at the Stardew Valley music, and so I was just kind of bad time frame. But but it doesn't sound it sounds like it could be five to ten years old.
SPEAKER_01:Totally. It's so I always thought that he so before I saw the Santana show, before I knew it even existed, I I went when I I tell people about Takanaka and I would say, and they'd be like, What does it sound like? I'd be like, kind of like sound sounds like he sounds like a combination of like Santana and George Benson playing on like the happiest world music in the world. You know, that's so true. Like, and or may maybe mix with just a little bit of yacht rock or something like that, right? So he has such Santana vibes to him, but I actually like him more than Santana, no disrespect to Santana, I love Santana, but I really, really like this guy. And uh so when I saw that Santana show, I was like, holy crap! And I realized I read a little afterward that uh Takanaka is like a like Santana's like his idol. Oh so like there's it's no mistake that he sounds like Santana.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But speaking of uh awesome guitar players playing together, George Benson and Santana, if you've never seen them play breezing together.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I bet that's cute.
SPEAKER_01:On uh I think it was like Soul Train or something. They're both wearing like disco like leisure suits, kind of it's it's it's cool. Um, anyways. And uh you got anything else?
SPEAKER_04:Are you ready to move to the next to our topic of the day? Just let me just one thing to say.
SPEAKER_01:Is that gonna segue us in?
SPEAKER_04:No.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:It's about books.
SPEAKER_01:Well then go ahead.
SPEAKER_04:You were asking me about my motorcycle people. Oh, yeah, I want to hear more. I thought of another reason why I think I really like those books, particularly. I guess they're all adults. What that's one thing. I I'm 42. As opposed to uh I don't want to read too much about college kids and or like young adults. Not I don't know, whatever. I feel like I'm creepy when I'm reading stuff that's about people that are a little younger than that. So anyway, but the best thing about them all being adults is like they almost never have children. Children. And they all just do whatever they want all day long. They have no responsibilities. Endless.
SPEAKER_03:What are you in trunchable?
SPEAKER_04:Oh no. They have endless money. And it's very appealing to read about adults who don't have any responsibilities and somehow have lots of money to just like oh, and then like tonight we went here and then we went there. And I just want to be like, man, this is fiction. This is escapism at its finest. And sometimes I almost want them to be like use the bathroom or have to go to the grocery store or go to work or find a babysitter or that's you know gonna be a thing at some point.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like somebody's just can go through and just assign just add those to every story. Well, that's my beef with like JFK. It's like, why do they have to have this whole like 40 minutes worth of domestic drama? It's like we could do without the movies three and a half.
SPEAKER_04:We don't want to watch that. We have to live that.
SPEAKER_01:You had it in Bridge of Spies a little bit, but it was way, it was backed way off.
SPEAKER_04:Plus it was Holly from The Office, and then she's I was just like even if you like read like a hockey romance, which is a very popular that's more of the college age, right? It is they're professional. Jonesy and Riley. They're usually like NHL.
SPEAKER_01:Just making jokes.
SPEAKER_04:Um but even then they have to go to practice and it's like I don't want to read about that. Don't I don't want to read about the thing you have to do every day at the same time.
SPEAKER_01:But when the motorcycle guys are riding around and the motorcycle people are that do you want to hear about that a little bit?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I want to hear about when they just leave and go and do whatever they want. That's what I want to read about.
SPEAKER_01:But not the actual motorcycle problem.
SPEAKER_04:I don't care about the motorcycles.
SPEAKER_01:Gotcha. Just want to feel the just the wind on your face.
SPEAKER_00:Wind in my hair.
SPEAKER_01:When in your hair. Uh, one more thing. All right. Listen to Jim Hall and Bill Evans' Undercurrent album for like the tenth time. Um I just want to show you this cover because I feel like it kind of fits the by the way. Bill Evans is a uh jazz pianist. Jim Hall is a guitar player, and somehow they make it work really well. You wouldn't think like I don't know. You you I've heard a lot of doo jazz, like a lot of duos, and this just I don't know, just to kill it. There's something about it, I just love it. But um Uncle Dan might have turned me on with this album. That or we've definitely talked about it before.
SPEAKER_04:We were so remiss. We do need to apologize. We didn't talk about Uncle Dan. Jeez. We didn't talk about Uncle Dan in the last episode.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh. I know. So sorry.
SPEAKER_04:This is terrible.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's not a dead body. It looks so if you haven't seen the cover. It's called like something something Florida. It's like a picture. It's there's nothing that even suggests it's a dead woman floating in the floor. But did your mom and dad take it away from you? It looks like it says dead body. I don't want to get any ideas. Anytime my mom, anytime we're like, my mom used to take um, my mom used to take my CDs away if the lyrics didn't make sense, and she'd be like, I'm like, why are you taking that? There's not even a swear word in it. She'd be like, I don't know what it means.
SPEAKER_00:It could be it could be about having sex with dead bodies.
SPEAKER_01:It's like, okay, well, I finally found one for you. 1962, Bill Evans.
SPEAKER_04:It's probably her favorite album.
SPEAKER_01:I do love this album cover, though. It's so weird.
SPEAKER_04:Sorry, I'm making a lot of noise. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_01:You sound like you're underwater. You sound like another current.
SPEAKER_04:Do I sound like a drowning lady?
SPEAKER_01:I got more stuff to talk about that, but it doesn't matter. We'll I'll make you listen to it sometime.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:All right.
SPEAKER_04:Well, um speaking of watching stuff, are we ready?
SPEAKER_01:Let's do it. I'm gonna you know what? You did such a good job though.
SPEAKER_04:Same waying?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, with uh Inner Light and the Dollhouse Murders. You're really good at breaking plots down.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I can't. I just can't.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So you want me to give a little signal to the right. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna be our Marcus uh Marcus Parks. He's the one that's he's the one who keeps everything on the rails. He writes all the material.
SPEAKER_04:That seems like a hard job for him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Uh okay, so we have watched both seasons of The Sandman on Netflix, which is based on Neil Gaiman. Graphic novels? Were they graphic novels? Sorry, we're definitely denying. Comics. I think they were comics. I think they're comics. Um and there's only going to be two seasons, right?
SPEAKER_01:I think so. Yeah, that's the way the yeah, well, we don't want to spoil anything. Yeah. But I pretty much.
SPEAKER_04:We will spoil this episode, but so the first season has a bit more standalone episodes than the second season. And this episode that we're gonna talk about is called The Sound of Her Wings.
SPEAKER_01:Actually, I have it written down here as uh the sound of her being beat with wings. That's what I wrote on the wings? A good That's what I titled the note when I was writing it last night. I just can't remember what it was called, so I had fun with it.
SPEAKER_04:I guess if I'm gonna get beat with something, I'd like to be beaten with wings.
SPEAKER_01:It depends. I don't know. I heard like Did you read the book about the trumpet or swan?
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_01:Remember there was a I swear there's a part in that book.
SPEAKER_04:It's called the Trumpet of the Swan.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_04:I read that book many, many times.
SPEAKER_01:They say something in there about its wing being like hit with a baseball bed or something. Yeah. Is that right? Yes. Or maybe it knocked a window out or something weird. Yeah. Ever since then.
SPEAKER_04:Remember when he's the one that plays the trumpet, right? Nick kick. Yeah, Castlewarries. But they don't have much wing, do they?
SPEAKER_01:No, they're not. Yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry, everybody.
SPEAKER_04:If an eagle was taking off, I wouldn't have. If that eagle that lives by us was taken off, I wouldn't want to be like my face anywhere near its wings.
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_04:I take back what I said, I don't want to get beat with face near its face?
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Beak all day long. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:What's uh Tommy or Chris Farley making out with a penguin and Billy Madison?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, what about it?
SPEAKER_01:Do you do you know what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_04:I do.
SPEAKER_01:I wouldn't do that to an eagle. Okay. We have there's one we can bucket list.
SPEAKER_04:We could uh you and my mom should should uh compare notes on your bucket list, see if that's on hers.
SPEAKER_01:I bet it is.
SPEAKER_04:Make out with an eagle.
SPEAKER_01:Cheated off her bucket list.
SPEAKER_04:So far you've both been doing an Ohio State game.
SPEAKER_01:Anyways, bet you both ready to make it. Hey, listen, we gotta give back you're taking us off track. Not me. You.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Sound of her wings. That's episode six of season one. And do you want me to just lay out the narrat like the or the first part of the how about the first part?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I like what you're doing so far.
SPEAKER_04:So if you haven't watched The Sandman, he is basically the king of the dream realm. They call him Dream.
SPEAKER_01:Real quick, can we just can we just say, can we just get this out of the way? Unless it's in a Sandman episode per se. The first season's definitely much better than the second, right?
SPEAKER_04:It is a lot better.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I liked the second season.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was fine. We finished it and it was fine. Some episodes were pretty great, but the first one season was like, whoa, the show is awesome.
SPEAKER_04:I did a little reading about that, so I can tell you about it if you want me to now.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So I read I looked up how closely it follows the um original, like the comic storyline, and it said basically the first season is a bit closer to the comics, and it has a lot more standalone episodes. There's a bit of an overarching theme, but then I think it had to do with the fact that they were only gonna make one more season. Oh and so then they made they they it's all still very much based on the comics, season two, but they pulled a lot together to make one like through storyline that instead of being like the first season was like these different things that happened to Dream. The second season was like much more of a linear timeline. You got flashbacks to explain things, but it was like that would always take you back to the presentation. Yeah, you have these days and it was like a storyline, way more than the first season, which was just kind of like about that makes sense why they did that. And they wanted to wrap it up because they knew they were gonna be done. The Witcher did that too, and it's just kind of like I loved the first season of Witcher because it was like, oh, I'm in this now, I'm in this village and I'm gonna fight this monster. Yeah, why? That's all I wanted to see.
SPEAKER_01:Why do they not do shows like that anymore? I mean, I know somebody's making them. I'm sure I could think of fifty if I did it, but Nope.
SPEAKER_04:So anyway.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So this is a standalone. This is a standalone pretty much. I could think of a couple exceptions, but you could totally watch just this episode. There's a couple things you'd be like, who's this person? It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_04:Dream has siblings, and is the sibling that's in there with him is basically the grim reaper, but I can't remember what they call her.
SPEAKER_01:They don't call her death, do they?
SPEAKER_04:They don't, but she's deaf. But what I don't remember what they call her. He's Dream, he has a weird brother named Desire, a sad sister named Despair, a brother named Destiny, and a brother named Destruction.
SPEAKER_01:Sounds right. Fate. Not destiny, fate, right?
SPEAKER_04:No, they all start with a D, I think.
SPEAKER_01:Oh stupid.
SPEAKER_04:Of Dream, Death, Despair, Des Desire, Destiny, and Destruction.
SPEAKER_01:He's a bad boy, he changes his name.
SPEAKER_04:So anyway, Dream.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's death. She's called.
SPEAKER_04:I mean she is death, but I don't think they call her. They call her sister.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Most of the time. Keep going, keep talking.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So it opens up with um can I give a little bit of spoiler from the previous? Uh you can't. Well, he's basically sulking because a a chapter of his life has ended, and now he's like, I don't know what to do. Yeah. And his sister comes, his sister who was deaf, comes and she's like trying to sort of like cheer him out up, but also like get over yourself in a nice, friendly, sisterly way. So she takes him to work with her, which is this like lovely opening sequence where she's just killing people left and right.
SPEAKER_01:Dude.
SPEAKER_04:It was like that real feel good.
SPEAKER_01:I wrote down those like uh a cooler version of Up.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. The first 30 minutes of upgrade.
SPEAKER_01:Really kind of heartbreaking stuff. I mean, I mean, in a really like great writing and all that.
SPEAKER_04:And so she kind of explains like her purpose. She's lives for her purpose or whatever. Right? Is that what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, she's like the yeah, she's her function is her purpose. Yeah, she's like the only grounded one of the good, like cool hang in the entire bunch of these uh siblings. Siblings.
SPEAKER_04:So that's what the first part of it's about. And so he's getting a little perspective. Oh, that this follows nicely from our last week we talked about my hospice work.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So then I thought that was yeah, so then I've supposed you haven't run into her. Yeah. I have been there twice. Yeah. Many people have. But I didn't see her.
SPEAKER_01:Didn't.
SPEAKER_04:And it was very peaceful both times.
SPEAKER_01:She's pretty peaceful.
SPEAKER_04:That's true. She could have been there and I couldn't see her. Uh so anyway, then they she does her last job of the day and then she pieces out. And then he is reminded that he missed an appointment because he was in captivity, but I won't go into too much detail about that.
SPEAKER_01:Can I back up just a little bit?
SPEAKER_04:Sure. You want to talk about the opening scenes?
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, you know, for just a second.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, please.
SPEAKER_01:I No, I'm saying for just a second. In the s in the in the very in the very beginning, when he's sitting on the park bench and the guy kicks the soccer ball over. I thought in my head, I was like, oh yes, this is the part where he's awesome at soccer and he gets up and he plays. And then I realized that I was thinking of a Doctor Who episode with Matt Smith.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah, I do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but I bet Sandman would be who would I would actually totally 1000% watch the Doctor Who episode where all he does is just play sports and dominates.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm. I'd watch Doctor Who episode about anything at all.
SPEAKER_01:And then the Sandman, maybe he's even sports. He just there could be like a death battle, but for sports, where like if the Sandman versus Doctor Who. Ooh. I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Who would win?
SPEAKER_01:I don't, you know, I don't know prepared. I'm not prepared for that. Why do I bring that?
SPEAKER_04:I feel like Doctor Who would we'll do an episode on that. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I may. Let me think about that one.
SPEAKER_04:Dream is so much more tortured.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he's such a such an emotion.
SPEAKER_04:He's your emo.
SPEAKER_01:Although toward the end of the second season, he's Yeah, the the whole movie's kind of or sorry, show is kind of about him realizing the finer things in life and growing up.
SPEAKER_04:Uh okay. So then so so Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Go go ahead, keep going.
SPEAKER_04:So then the second half of the episode I think is the part you really like.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. That's I forgot about the whole first part.
SPEAKER_04:So did I, because that's where we were like, wait, is this the right one?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I had to check it out. But I I also forgot that I liked it.
SPEAKER_04:I also don't know why it's if that's oh, I'll get to this. But let me just lay out the rest of the thing. I don't know why it's called that, because if the bulk of the episode is supposed to be about the second half that I'm about to talk about, why it's focused on the sound of her wings being the name of the episode.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Is that what reminded me? I didn't even think about the name of the episode. I was because I was laughing at the name that I gave it.
SPEAKER_04:Previous to this episode, he was cap in captivity. I won't go into the details because I want to spoil anything. And so he missed an appointment, and she reminded him of the appointment that he missed. So he went, what was he like twenty years too late or something?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_04:To go meet up with this guy that he has been Hobb. He's been meeting with uh every one hundred years since 1389.
SPEAKER_01:Um Hob Gadling.
SPEAKER_04:And we'll we'll get into how it's possible for Dream to have been meeting up with a mortal man every one hundred years for five hundred years or seven hundred years. Um and so then once he so then you see all the flashbacks of every meeting he's ever had with him. And which takes you up to him going to where they've meeting at the same place, but when he gets there in this current day, it's closed, and so he's like, crap, not only did I miss him, now we don't have our meeting place anymore. So then he sees like a spray painted new inn or something. Is that what it says?
SPEAKER_01:Something like that, yeah. So he goes next door.
SPEAKER_04:He goes next I have I have a handful. He goes next door and there's his buddy, and then Hilarity ensues. Yeah. They make fart jokes. Circumcision jokes.
SPEAKER_01:Basically it turns into uh yeah, circumcision jokes. I got a few of those in during the uh sermon this morning. Um so yeah, could be pretty good at pretty good uh explanation there. I didn't even think about the title.
SPEAKER_04:I guess it's relevant.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe it's like you hear a lot of it.
SPEAKER_04:It's relevant because she's the angel of death, but this guy doesn't die.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Now I need you to remind me.
SPEAKER_01:Great.
SPEAKER_04:How does he not die?
SPEAKER_01:So they he and his sister had a little bet.
SPEAKER_04:But that wasn't in this episode.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it wasn't? No, you're right, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_04:I kept waiting for them to explain that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Now, did that episode come before or after the one we made?
SPEAKER_01:I don't well the one before that was the diner one, which we almost did instead of.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, well, go ahead and tell us about the bet, because that matters.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's that they're betting that uh basically that a human um would never want to keep living. Keep living. Like I think I think even he even says at some point, why would any sensible creature wish for eternity in this place?
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Which is kind of a deep question. Like, it's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_04:So then he wants So then that guy ends up with How does he does he say he wants to?
SPEAKER_01:He's at the table and he's drinking with his buddies in 1389, and he's having a great time, and he says he's never gonna he's like, Everybody dies because they all decide that it's inevitable. He's like, Well, it's not for me. I'm not gonna die. He's like, I promise I will never die. And then he has mar and then he has Marionette Coitus.
SPEAKER_04:Marionette Coitus.
SPEAKER_01:Watch Team America if you don't get that joke.
SPEAKER_04:Um not with your children. Well Rob, no.
SPEAKER_01:It depends on your kids, it's gonna be my answer for everything.
SPEAKER_04:I guess if you're 80 and your kids are 60.
SPEAKER_01:If I watch it with my parents, my mom and dad aren't gonna listen to this. We guys guys gotta watch Team America. Just one scene in particular.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not watching it if you guys do.
SPEAKER_01:You have to actually sit on my lap and watch. You have to sit on my dad's lap and watch.
SPEAKER_04:No thanks. Your poor dad.
SPEAKER_01:He'll think it's funny.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think he will.
SPEAKER_01:He won't he'll think it's weird. I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_04:That's because it is weird, Rob.
SPEAKER_01:Talk about Galatians some more.
SPEAKER_04:Circumcision.
SPEAKER_01:I will, I will, I'll link to that. I'll link to that. Um, but anyways, uh, what were we actually talking about? Oh, he says he'll never die. And they're they're sitting there He promises, he's he pretty much says that. And then they come over. So one thing I like I I really like about it's kind of a subtle thing, but everybody who she takes kind of like knows who she is. You know what I mean? Like they're they're like, how'd you know my name? Oh crap. Right? And he sorta does. You notice that? Like he I don't I I didn't catch that. So I may be thinking, here's what it is. He doesn't he knows they're not screwing around. Like you see it on his face that they're they're serious. Like, I'll meet you in a hundred years, and he's like, okay. Like, I think I will.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, see, I I'm so confused by that because I remember a scene where they were playing cards and that was not in this episode. So now I feel like we're blending.
SPEAKER_01:That the scene I just described was in this episode.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:But I know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_04:It's fine.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know, whatever. This is the audience won't like it, right? Yeah, see, this is a big reason, watch your own shows. Read the comic. Tell us what it is. Our graphic novel. So that actor, by the way, is pretty great. Actually, I like I like all three of the main characters in this one. Yeah. Um, she's what is she in?
SPEAKER_04:I don't remember. She's in something like Game of Thrones or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no, no. She's in dang it. Well, in Well, he he's in Silo. He he's the her, you know what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um, dead air, dead air.
SPEAKER_01:No. Keep talking.
SPEAKER_04:Another thing you're not gonna like about the show is that we don't edit anything.
SPEAKER_01:I want to find I can't remember what she was in, just something. Yeah, screw it. I'll find it later.
SPEAKER_04:So yes, and so basically as they meet Hobb.
SPEAKER_01:Barry.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah, the good place, that's right.
SPEAKER_01:Barry also.
SPEAKER_04:Um as they meet, then like Hobb, the human person, not Dream, is like the human boy deciding over time that they must become that they must be friends.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So then he sort of a he sort of posits that to Dream, and it really angers Dream because he doesn't need mortal people to be his friends.
SPEAKER_01:I love how he keeps pushing him on that.
SPEAKER_04:And so he leaves homeschool. In anger and then misses his next appointment, so then Hobb's like, I guess we're not friends.
SPEAKER_01:But then they find he's because he was in captivity.
SPEAKER_04:Right. He didn't mean to meet to miss it, he was in captivity.
SPEAKER_01:Right. That's right.
SPEAKER_04:It's like he was like in a little dream zoo.
SPEAKER_01:Oh.
SPEAKER_04:His dorsal fin was bent over.
SPEAKER_01:But uh what do you think about Hobbs uh what do you what do you think about Hobbs arc?
SPEAKER_04:Do you really want me to say what I think about the whole episode?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I want to know.
SPEAKER_04:I feel like nothing happened and it was very it was a big letdown to me rewatching it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no.
SPEAKER_04:I know. So now you talk.
SPEAKER_01:Tell me why. Tell me why.
SPEAKER_04:Um I felt like in my memory more happened, and then when I watched it, it felt very empty. Their interactions didn't seem like enough conversation or enough time together, unless we were just seeing a flash of time together, and it was implied that they were together all day long once a year for a hundred years.
SPEAKER_01:So that's one thing I r I I took a note of is that it's just funny that they've really only known each other for about five days.
SPEAKER_04:W yes, over 500 years or however.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, he he shows up kind of in the second season a little bit, and they they maybe suggest that maybe they hang they've hung out sometime after his release from captivity. Um but yeah, I I mean I I I I get what you're saying. I don't know why I love this episode so much. First of all, I really liked the the the first half. I'm glad I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I I can connect to the first half that reminded me a lot of Dead Like Me. Oh, yeah. Remember that show? Yeah, that was a great show. We've got to rewatch that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:With uh main girl.
SPEAKER_01:And uh Rebecca Gayhart, I think, was in there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but what was the main girl's name? Because she was my friend on MyShare's George.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I don't remember the actress's name, but George.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but was MySpace. Maybe that's probably my friend on MySpace and uh she messaged me back a couple times. It was pretty cool. Yeah. Don't remember her name.
SPEAKER_01:Sorry, George.
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah. So I I feel like the first half of it is connected to the second half because I guess he needs that perspective from his sister to appreciate what there is to appreciate about the world.
SPEAKER_01:And he does. He's all he's all homies with uh with Hobb at the end. He's like, I guess it makes us friends.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Or something like that.
SPEAKER_04:Which is pretty cheesy, but I do like the I like that trope of Hobb living forever.
SPEAKER_01:So I think the reason I like it's why you like it is because I love that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Like I'm What's another movie that we watched that had was it Kane?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I love uh no, um he never died.
SPEAKER_04:He never died, but was it Kane though that was a cane?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we gotta watch he never died. No one would I I can't I've yet to Dan Uncle Dan is the one who told me to watch that. He's like, I think he'd like this. Sure enough, I love it. It's like it's like a kind of almost like a funnier version of the crow. Although I haven't seen it in in since uh probably came out. No, that's not funny.
SPEAKER_04:And why wasn't laughing? You're the one that laughed. I was just asking a question, a fact.
SPEAKER_01:Another Brandon Lee movie that features one of my favorite quotes of all time, the Showdown Little Tokyo, where um Dolph Ungren is in a hot tub with Tia Carrera.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01:And they're I think it's her. And they're about to die. Like all these ninjas show up, and they're I it's been a while since I've seen them. I have some details of well off. But he says uh they're about to like all these guys are coming in, and he Brandon Lee looks at Dolph Ungren and he's like, in case something happens, in case we don't make it through this, something I want you to know. You have the biggest thing I've ever seen on a man.
SPEAKER_04:Robert, we don't say that on the show.
SPEAKER_01:I whispered it. Biggest pig. He was carrying it. He always carried this pig around. I might be thinking of another movie. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I don't remember enough about the crow to remember that it was about someone who never died.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, he gets uh he's got this crow. We'll watch, we'll do an episode on it.
SPEAKER_04:I've seen the crow like twice. I don't ever watch it anymore.
SPEAKER_01:It's pretty dark. It is, it's got a great soundtrack. Maybe we'll do a crow soundtrack.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. That sounds like a consumption corner level.
SPEAKER_01:You just don't want to listen to it. It's got nine-inch nails on it. It's got My Life is a Thrill Kill Cult. You like Pantera, huh?
SPEAKER_04:I do.
SPEAKER_01:Something for you. Um anyways, back to Hobb.
SPEAKER_04:Let's talk directly. I like his character.
SPEAKER_01:He's awesome. He's an awesome character. I like the water.
SPEAKER_04:Even throughout the whole show of his.
SPEAKER_01:Every time he shows up on that show, I'm like, oh, this episode might be actually pretty decent. Like, because he's just cool in that.
SPEAKER_04:He's kind of a comic relief-ish.
SPEAKER_01:Sort of, but he's like, oh yeah, he is, but he's almost not even like it's not exactly like he's telling jokes. He's just he's so uh positive. Yeah. Like I love the scene where he's this is maybe on his third century alive, maybe fourth, where he's just like, he's he's lost everything. He lost, you know, he lost his his kid, his because he was like right on top of the world. He's like, this is what I thought heaven would be like.
SPEAKER_04:And then the next hundred years, he's like, they won't even let him in a destitute.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they won't even let him in. He's freaking out, and then and then Sam Sam Man's like dream, whatever his name is, is like so. Do you wanna you want basically you want out? He's like, Are you kidding me? Yeah, no, like he's so I love that. Like, yeah, I would like to think I would here's the thing. You you put yourself in these uh you like to you like to read motorcycle novels or novels, not novels.
SPEAKER_04:That's a generous description.
SPEAKER_01:You like to read ro motorcycle romance books because you get to fantasize about having no responsibilities and tons of money. Well, um that is what this does for me. Like, because like it's like watching Groundhog Day or Edge of Tomorrow. It's like all this cool stuff could happen if you could just keep trying. It's like I it's the way I play video games. I I'm a huge save scummer. Like, I do you know what that means?
SPEAKER_04:No.
SPEAKER_01:You I I don't do it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, you save constantly.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I save all the time so that I could make rash decisions and then be like, nah, I don't want to do it that way. And then I'll do it another way. And just I that's how I play it. I cannot drives Clark insane. I can't watch you play.
SPEAKER_04:No.
SPEAKER_01:I'm with Clark. I just live in the movie.
SPEAKER_04:I wonder where he gets it. That makes my skin crawl.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I love you know, you know I'm any time. If if a movie or a show or a book features a time loop, and I say it's not good, you know it sucks. Because I will entertain I will entertain crappy time look like boss level wasn't the greatest. I mean, it was very entertaining.
SPEAKER_04:What was that?
SPEAKER_01:That was with uh what's his face from uh well Bill Gibson was the villain, and um I can't remember the actor's name. Uh it's uh whatever. He was in Captain America, like Civil War. He was like a Hydra guy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Anyways, um, let's move on.
SPEAKER_04:From time loops? Well, I have a question.
SPEAKER_01:This is not a time loop exactly. Well, it is kind of though.
SPEAKER_04:I have it's not.
SPEAKER_01:It's not a time loop, it's not, but it's it's having all the time in the world.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. You know here's a question for you though. So let's see, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17? Was it the 1700s when he's talking about getting into slavery?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so you've been alive for 400 years. Do you think someone would have to tell you not to get into slavery after you've witnessed the world for 400 years?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, to his credit, seems as though he takes that advice.
SPEAKER_01:He he does. Uh, I thought that was a really bold, brave move on the on the producers of the show that they you know took a stance against slavery in that episode. That was really good. But it did didn't they kind of feel like just like a little bit like almost like there was an agenda? Like, yeah, we know chattel slavery isn't cool.
SPEAKER_04:Right. And but like what I mean, I'm kind of making a joke, but it's just like I just like how could you have 400 years of experience? As a person who works with old people, they know a lot. Now it's not always you know I know I know what you're saying. Actually, I had all 80 years of experience is enough to know a lot. So if you got 400 and you've lived every version of it as it seems like he did.
SPEAKER_01:You gotta know that's a terrible thing to do. Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. Uh on that point, on that same sort of thing, actually, this is just a scaled out version of that. They act like they did this for the first time, which apparently they did. Well, they've been together for okay, I don't even give me started on how long they say they're together. They've been together for billions of years, and that yet they treat, you know, like a hundred years. You talk about the siblings? Yeah. They treat a hundred years like it's some sort of big ordeal. I I hate it when shows do that. Right when they don't just just say just say you've been together for five million years or you went to sleep. Or like what even Doctor Who, like five billion years in the future, is like, dude, just make it something we can 500,000. Like five billion years is a really freaking long time.
SPEAKER_04:I will say you're probably like a minority of people who's just what's giving in that much.
SPEAKER_01:Anyways. But so they've never done this experience experiment before. I know, I know she doesn't he doesn't really talk to her. I guess I'm thinking through now, but humans have been around forever. Right, from from their their perspective or whatever. Like they never got this idea before. Hey, let's see what happens if somebody never dies. Like your entire thing is Manipulating humans. Getting people when they die. Yeah. And yours is their dreams where you're probably witnessing them being afraid of death death. Not once did you guys think, hey, we should do this sooner? They just waited till this time.
SPEAKER_04:But I mean, maybe they're just so self absorbed. I mean, that is kind of it. Right? That she's trying to like remind him that Yeah, but they definitely get to know the people that they're very friendly with each other.
SPEAKER_01:Like they have had like even okay, even if they're like Hob and Dream and they only talk to each other for an hour. Talking about the sister? Yeah, yeah, brother, sister. Death and Dream every hundred years, five minutes for a hundred years, eventually that's gonna come up. I just thought they would have done this sooner. But it's okay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I don't know if I I didn't have that thought, but I see what you mean.
SPEAKER_01:What you said made me think of it with uh uh slaves, yeah. I like yours a bit more of an honorable angle.
SPEAKER_04:Well, that's what I was going for. Honor. I'm honorable.
SPEAKER_01:Um Joanna Constantine.
SPEAKER_04:Love her.
SPEAKER_01:She's great. She's uh Clara Oswald from Dr. Hill. Dr. Hill.
SPEAKER_04:Wow, a lot of parallels here.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I'd like to talk about Neil Gaiman at some point.
SPEAKER_01:Go for it. I like Neil Gaiman. Well too. I don't I think he's um Did you ever read the graveyard?
SPEAKER_04:Isn't he like he wrote Coraline?
SPEAKER_01:No, but didn't he get in some sort of sexual assault allegations or the author? Yeah, he's in trouble for something.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_01:I think he's pretty pretty darn canceled.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, did he?
SPEAKER_01:Look it up because I might look it up because we just started this podcast. Um I I wrote I'll just give some rapid fire stuff here. I wrote that uh uh the actor who plays Hobb looks like Andy Garcia. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER_04:I think that you're right.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, thanks. Uh I thought that the uh changes between 1889 and 1989 were quite staggering.
SPEAKER_04:Apparently he's in Scientology.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:And he is facing serious sexual assault. Never mind, I want to talk about Neil Gaiman.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we could talk about him.
SPEAKER_04:Cool. The graveyard book's a great grave.
SPEAKER_01:The book's freaking great. And what's the what's the other one? Not Confusion Apprentice, that's Garth Nix, right? Yeah. It's um it's the one where he goes he goes to this, it's like this place. It's got it's got Gregor the Overlainer vibes to it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, uh The Underworld?
SPEAKER_01:Is that yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Under it's on it's London. Yeah. He's underneath it's a cool book. Underworld The Underworld?
SPEAKER_01:The Under Anyways, Graveyard Book's better.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, you thought so?
SPEAKER_01:Well, they're different. Uh I I think Graveyard, I think I like Graveyard Book more because it ended.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:I th I I don't I don't know. Forget it, I'm not ready to talk about that. Shakespeare, we got a nice tie-in with uh with Bill Shakespeare.
SPEAKER_04:Neverware.
SPEAKER_01:Neverware, yeah, yeah. Good call.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, so so this episode does have a lot of branches to other episodes for sure. Because there is a Well Shakespeare episode, isn't there?
SPEAKER_01:Well, there definitely is for Doctor Who.
SPEAKER_04:Shoot. That's crazy how much we're overlapping that.
SPEAKER_01:Let's just go watch Doctor Who.
SPEAKER_04:You know what? Neil Goon, you know, sexual allegations.
SPEAKER_01:I I'm sorry you didn't like this episode as much. I I I still maintain it's um I love it.
SPEAKER_04:I didn't not love it, but it fell flat compared to what I was remembering.
SPEAKER_01:Is there something we're forgetting to talk about?
SPEAKER_04:See, that's the thing. No.
unknown:Wow.
SPEAKER_01:What would you have liked to uh uh I I also wrote that I love uh I always love a a time jump into media medieval times.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So that's another thing that I like about you know, I think I'm just kind of shallow. Yeah, you are there's these things that I like, and when I see them together, I go gaga for it, right? I love medieval time stuff, especially with fantasy or sci-fi mixed into it.
SPEAKER_04:If you get like dinner while you're there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Do those still exist?
SPEAKER_01:Jim Carrey, fight Matthew Broderick.
SPEAKER_04:Medieval times.
SPEAKER_01:I've got to talk about uh torture chambers sometime. Oh my goodness. We really are. We gotta.
SPEAKER_04:I'm scared. Sounds like a torture chamber.
SPEAKER_01:Um we want to move off of it? Wanna talk about our boy Paul Simon? An hour where an hour in.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:We'll give our audience a break.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_04:I I was grinning gleefully earlier because I thought of who I can't wait to hear. I can't wait to say that I would want to hear do this song.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, to do Loves Me Like a Rock.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:So you know what I didn't do?
SPEAKER_04:What?
SPEAKER_01:I didn't like do a whole lot of homework on Loves Me Like a Rock. Well, I didn't like I can't tell you, I didn't I usually like to like listen to the album it's on first.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Which is uh Rhyme and Paul Simon shoot, is it Rhyme and Paul Simon? It's a 1973 album. And it it was uh it was a number two hit, I know that. Um I had I swear I I I may be I may have this wrong, but I used to have the Essential Paul Simon, which is like a two-disc set greatest hits. I used to have just greatest hits for everybody. That's like kind of how I I guess that's how most people get into stuff. But I swear the original one did not have this song on it, and I was so mad because I really wanted to.
SPEAKER_04:That's why you got it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it's not why I got it, but like I mean, this is but uh but then I looked it up again.
SPEAKER_04:There goes rhyme and silent.
SPEAKER_01:There goes rhyme and siven. That's what it is. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Not the uh genre that's considered, according to our our friend Chad Folk, I'd imagine. Gospel infused pop slash folk rock.
SPEAKER_01:Like uh Kirk Franklin.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, Domp.
SPEAKER_01:Well the dip with the Dixie Hummingbirds, those are the uh I guess I did read the crown vocals. Yeah. They were they're great. I mean they uh they kind of make it. They make the song what it is. Um all the harmonies and the they I saw them, a lot of them were still kicking. Well, actually I don't know if they are this show.
SPEAKER_04:The hummingbirds?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I saw them on Dixie Hummingbirds.
SPEAKER_04:On Oh, they like the Dixie Chicks, and now they just go by the hummingbirds.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Another it's another you know, they followed uh the sand man and they they set up for what was right.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, just the hummingbirds. Um they were on uh it was Paul Simon and Stevie Wonder.
SPEAKER_04:I like that.
SPEAKER_01:And like seven of them do in the original recording, I believe it was just a quartet. But and and and it was uh they it was with uh muscle shoals. Um so there's a you know I love you know I love session musicians. That's another one we'll have to talk about sometime. So they got all those session players or muscle shoals. I don't know anybody else specifically who was on it, but the Dixie Hummingbirds. But they but some of these dudes were going on live of Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, Dixie Hummingbirds, and one of the dudes was uh he looked old, he looked like he could have been on the song with Saul Paul Simon. I'm assuming he was, but he sang a whole verse, and he was like just like oh I mean I can't do it, but it was a deep voice, and he was just coming in at weird rhythms and stuff. It was super cool.
SPEAKER_04:That's cool. Like it was fun. Where did you watch that?
SPEAKER_01:It was just on YouTube. I just uh I was just seeing who different versions of the song.
SPEAKER_04:And then you showed me one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we'll we'll get there in a minute. Oh, okay. Let's talk about why I picked this song.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. So talk to us about it.
SPEAKER_01:Eventually, probably we'd have ended up playing on like the 400th episode anyway, because it's a great tune. But we bumped it way up the list because my mom, this is like one of her favorite songs. I when she had brain surgery, yeah, I filmed myself playing the song. And she To send to her. To send to her, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Not like an unrelated.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I was just like, I don't want to go, I was having brain surgery, boring, and I'm gonna.
SPEAKER_04:Whoa.
SPEAKER_01:Man, that's a sign that I need to not talk about that. Um this might have to be my first editing job.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. Just so you guys know, the microphone boom, boom stand? I don't know, fell off the uh fell off the terry box. The Terry Box. It wasn't the Terry Box's fault.
SPEAKER_01:I know. I know I'm back, and he's back. Back, everybody. This would never happen, right? See how I kept my cool? Whatever. He doesn't have anything on this.
SPEAKER_04:He's got astrophysicists in his primary bedroom closet.
SPEAKER_01:We have Hob. So, um Yeah, my mom loves this song. That's the that's the gist. She had brain surgery, and I recorded it for her.
SPEAKER_04:Because music therapy.
SPEAKER_01:She said, because music therapy.
SPEAKER_04:And your brother took his ukulele and played for her.
SPEAKER_01:That's right, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And you guys are the best sons.
SPEAKER_01:But she was like, Oh, they really do love me. It's like, of course, geez. Listen to the song. Did she say that?
SPEAKER_04:Listen to the song. Um that's not what it says. It doesn't say you love her. It says she loves me.
SPEAKER_01:Whatever.
SPEAKER_04:You're the one who's saying that. Bullish details. Song lyrics, bullish details.
SPEAKER_01:Bullish details. We want to talk about the lyrics?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, but anyway, she said, hey, would you would you could could I hear Loves Me Like a Rock? I wanna hear you guys do it.
SPEAKER_04:So is there a way we can wrap up this podcast and give it to her for Christmas? Like how we did for her 70th birthday?
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:There's no way.
SPEAKER_01:What do you mean by wrap it up?
SPEAKER_04:It's a joke.
SPEAKER_01:Oh. I mean I could give it to her early before we actually post it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that's nice.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And by the way, mom, if we don't didn't end up doing that, I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_04:There's a late extra present you can add to your list when you're sitting down writing down what everybody got you.
SPEAKER_01:So the lyrics are the lyrics are are fun.
SPEAKER_04:They're silly.
SPEAKER_01:They're silly. We got the consecrated boys, we got some consummated man.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I did I did look that up though. It does mean like accomplished. It doesn't mean that he's like if you say, ooh, he's a consummate professional, you'd mean like that'd be accomplished.
SPEAKER_01:Well, maybe he's like a soup guy.
SPEAKER_04:Consumer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's uh that's that was my take. That's when I sing the when I sing that song, I'm picturing soup season.
SPEAKER_04:Do you know what mirapoi is?
SPEAKER_01:Soup season. Can you applaud me for being talking about? Soup season.
SPEAKER_04:Well, mirapoi is like the base of many, many soups.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, it's I'm sorry, I'm ignorant.
SPEAKER_04:It's French. Your mom would definitely know it.
SPEAKER_01:Mirapoi?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:How come I never heard that word?
SPEAKER_04:He don't make a lot of soup. You didn't even know about soup season.
SPEAKER_01:That's true.
SPEAKER_04:You don't know anything about fancy French words.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and then we got he's a president? Oh, he would be.
SPEAKER_04:He would be the president.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And then where when then oh that's how it ends. That's the last verse. Yeah, so it's it's like um about his mother who loves him and thinks he wants great things for him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's sweet.
SPEAKER_04:I don't want my son to be the president. Unfortunately, he'd probably be really good at it and we'd be pfft there'd be a lot of black and white black and white decisions making going on.
SPEAKER_01:He might as well, you know, why not?
SPEAKER_04:He'd be as good as anybody.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Probably better.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:We love you, sir.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I hope he is.
SPEAKER_04:I hope he stays far away from politics.
SPEAKER_01:Malcolm in the middle. That's how that ends, isn't it?
SPEAKER_04:I don't remember. It isn't a present.
SPEAKER_01:Anyways, forget it.
SPEAKER_04:Spoiler.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Well we don't know how 30 years ago.
SPEAKER_01:Right. So um they do they got a lot of killer harmonies, obviously, in the song with a with a four-piece gospel quartet. And you have um at the end, they kind of they go out with this. What would you call that? Is there a musical term for for going out with a Love me, love me, love me, love me?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. Nah, nah nah nah nah.
SPEAKER_01:It's a desk can't. But there's not a name for like going out like that.
SPEAKER_04:It's just like improving on your way out. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. All right.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I now does the original recording just fade.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, it fades out.
SPEAKER_04:As someone who is has to play live music for people all the time, every single song from like the 50s and the 60s and the 70s, they just turn it down. And then you're like, okay, well, I can't just like I always tell Rob, like, I'm just I'm up I'm usually on a stool with wheels. I just like back away from the people. Like, I guess the song's over, so I just kind of fade that way. Very because then you're then you're just like, she does me, does me, does me, does me, boom, boom. And it just sounds like kind of cheesy. Right. So I wish people. So wait a minute.
SPEAKER_01:Do you I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's like I might have thought you were kidding. Do you actually roll the That's so great? You should have done this stuff.
SPEAKER_04:I have laughed about it and done it with people like as a joke. Like I'll play the whole song and then I'll just keep playing. And I'm like, I don't know, they don't really add this song. Yeah, I only do it with people that would get it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sure. Yeah. So that's a deep, that's a deep cut joke right there. You gotta be in the know. You do. Um, but yeah, they fade out on that. So, but they don't on so on the Stevie Wonder Paul Simon version, they they really carry that out for a while, and Stevie's going you know, crazy, as you can imagine he would be. And uh it's cool, it's worth a watch. I I'll be honest with you, I think I probably still prefer the studio version. The one we listen to. Here comes Ryman Simon.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm. Yeah. Is that the one we were listening to?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes. I love the uh the beat, the tempo, the the funky So that's a big thing that Paul Simon did. He was a huge, huge everything guy, right? Beautiful harmonies, great songwriting, all that stuff. But he would uh he was really into rhythm.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the rhythm thing.
SPEAKER_01:Even the lyrics track. He would change lyrics to something that didn't necessarily make sense just because he liked the way it fit the percussion percussion of his mouth or whatever. You know, I'm so I've I've heard him in interviews. Like I watched like did you ever see the show um best albums or no? It was a VH1 show. It was a cool show. I of course it's right in my wheelhouse. Things I love. Uh it's about this guy who lives forever and listens to a new album every day and talks about it. No, he's it's it's Graceland. You're just like, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, cool. What are you gonna be done?
SPEAKER_04:It was not like that.
SPEAKER_01:He's talking about Graceland, uh, an album he did. And anyways, well, he's talking he he goes into he goes into what are you doing?
SPEAKER_04:I'm reading about Paul Simon.
SPEAKER_01:He goes into details of when he's like, I thought I'd chose I chose this word instead, even though it makes no sense, but I like the way it sounded, you know, that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I understand what you said. Is that what you were still talking about?
SPEAKER_01:No. Let's talk about Lady Smith Black Bombasa.
SPEAKER_04:Mbossum.
SPEAKER_01:Mufasa.
SPEAKER_04:Mufasa.
SPEAKER_01:Um Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a there's a five of five going on here, isn't there?
SPEAKER_04:No.
SPEAKER_01:No?
SPEAKER_04:Well, what is there an A major in there?
SPEAKER_01:Oh maybe not a five of there's definitely some borrowed chords.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah, it's a flat seven.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, it's a win. Okay, yes. That's good, that's good. And that happens at what point?
SPEAKER_04:It's a C to the F.
SPEAKER_01:Gotcha.
SPEAKER_04:Which is the second half of the chorus. Uh-huh. Love me. She loves me. She's an ominous. She loves me like a rock. She loves me like a rock of ages. The Rock of Ages is the is the flat seven.
SPEAKER_01:Gotcha. So that's where you could hit a little mixilly and uh scale and make it make it sound cool.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:I did not do that on the guitar. I went uh minor printonic. Kind of that's one thing I'm not that good at playing. It's like it's a super popular way to play. You know, it's like every rock song I ever. Um you tell me, like, can I let me do this real quick? So when, you know, we're doing uh we were good at the end, we played out instead of doing the for like 15 minutes, we did uh I just played, I just did like a solo kind of thing. So it's like you were you were doing like G C G.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah, but it was a bit longer than that, but yes. So I was doing like enough to be like, oh yeah, that's it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:But that's so if you play it, I could be playing here. But instead I'm playing here, it's a little bit, it's like kind of like a Dorian scale. Well, yeah, that would but you can go back when the G hits again, you can go. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04:I know.
SPEAKER_01:You know, so I can you use words? So it goes when you're playing, if you're playing like uh what's 12 bar blues, right?
SPEAKER_04:G C D yeah, okay, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I can't play. If I'm playing, if I'm playing. By the way, guys, if you're just tuning in, I don't know anything about music. This is my favorite thing to do, is frustrate the crap out of my wife.
SPEAKER_04:Who barely knows more.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you know more about what I'm so if I'm playing G, so and then because this goes G C D, right? It's got D, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:F is the only one that's not part of the key, but I mean Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I guess you're right. So there's some songs though, if you could play pentatonic minor, that because if I'm playing, if I'm playing. No, you're right. No, you're definitely right.
SPEAKER_04:I need to talk more about pentatonic minors.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know what it is, I just know it's called that. And some songs sound really cool. You get mad at me sometimes at church when I play.
SPEAKER_04:The reason I'm questioning a pentatonic, I need to I need to sit down with a piano and figure out what a pentatonic minor could start on because there's no half steps in a pentatonic scale. And a minor is made with a half step.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so you're right. I'm not actually playing a pentatonic scale. I'm sorry. I'm playing I'm I'm okay. How about this? This is what I'm playing. I'm playing something that's in the range of E.
SPEAKER_04:So Well, that's why I asked you if you're E major.
SPEAKER_01:Well, so if what because what I'm playing. I can go. No?
SPEAKER_04:He sounds a bluesy. He just sounds like you're using the blues.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, but it's a it's it's it's this would be like E.
SPEAKER_04:That's your F G.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, it's F.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. F that's an F.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, it's F, that's why. Okay. That makes sense. But it does kind of, right? Because it had forget it. We don't know if the I'm gonna make everybody go insane.
SPEAKER_04:Could you have Chat GPT or AI? Can AI make it? I'll just say this.
SPEAKER_01:It's a song that that that you can do because you know this times when they're like it's very blues-heaving. Which is yeah, I guess gospel.
SPEAKER_04:Blues adjacent, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Southern. It's got some southern gospel in there. Um okay.
SPEAKER_01:I just I can't believe you let me just sit there and play guitar for that long.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I was trying to help I was just thinking about how dumb I'm gonna sound when you just keep playing, and I'm like, I don't know how to answer that question.
SPEAKER_01:I I don't I don't know how to talk about it. Sometime we we gotta have somebody come on who I don't want that.
SPEAKER_04:No. No, no experts.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:No one else but me. I'm the best at the music, and that's how it goes. So, um Okay, who do you want to hear do it? Cover of it.
SPEAKER_01:Let me tell you who I have heard do it so far.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I got the Whalen Jennies.
SPEAKER_04:Oh wow. I Caroline's buddy likes them.
SPEAKER_01:Thought they were they were good. It's I like them better than the Be Gotness.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But they're not exactly they're they're great. It was really talented, and it was a cool take. It was fine. It was it was neat. If if I was picturing if Caroline was up there doing it with you know, to their the trio she did it, yeah. I'd be like, yeah, this is sweet. You know, it's yeah, but it was cool, worth listening to. Um Ramsey Lewis Trio.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, I don't know who that is.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yes, you do. Do you remember well, you might know Cleveland Eaton, the bass player, stand-up bass player. Okay. I know you don't know his name. But we it was uh after we watched a show or a movie, we turn on uh we turn on Ramsay Lewis trio, and he's a he's a dude, slick uh I don't know, maybe late 60s, or it was when it was filmed and the dude playing the stand-up, um black dude big beard just grooving in this sick bass sick bass play. Well he's all over that tune. I love that guy.
SPEAKER_04:Sometimes I read when you're watching that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you seemed like you were in it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I probably wasn't.
SPEAKER_01:We didn't listen to him play this, but their cover of this is great and it's instrumental.
SPEAKER_04:What do they call the Hawkins Trio?
SPEAKER_01:Ramsey Lewis trio.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Ramsey Lewis is great. Um, anyways. And then the OJs.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, I watched that one.
SPEAKER_01:Off of Fighting Temptations.
SPEAKER_04:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:The show, the movie, rather. I gotta I gotta be honest with you.
SPEAKER_04:That's your fave?
SPEAKER_01:That's my favorite one. The OJs, I like it even more than the Paul Simon version.
SPEAKER_04:It was so smooth.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my gosh, they're so good.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it was really good.
SPEAKER_01:I had it in my so it it had been we watched Fighting Temptations um in Mill Iron.
SPEAKER_04:Aw.
SPEAKER_01:And I only saw like I don't think I saw the whole movie, but I just you and me or do we No, it was just on like somebody else was watching it, and I was just I saw the I saw this scene with them singing. I was like, holy crap, this is really good. Like this is great. Because I knew the song, but I never heard that, and I love the OJs in my head though, I hadn't seen it since. And uh this week I was like, I kept Googling Spinners.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, you can remember.
SPEAKER_01:It was the OJs, yeah. So highly recommend you YouTube, or if you have the Fighting Temptations movie, I don't even remember what that movie's about. Cuba Getting Jr.'s at it, but and it had uh T-Bone, there's this rapper, it's like a Christian rapper. It's actually not bad. Christian rappers, I gotta say, like, I don't normally like Christian rock, but you can get in the rappers. I feel like as far as pop Christian rappers, they seem to be a lot better than pop Christian rock. No, but Christian rock. Christian rock to well, L Rock now sucks. That's mainstream. I just whatever.
SPEAKER_04:I think I got what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but the the rappers I think are beating out the secular like the the the mumble rap. Like there's some actually some pretty solid Christian rappers. I can't name a single one, but Kate Lee.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he's pretty good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Anyways, T Bone is pretty slick. At least, at least in that that's the only song I've ever heard of his.
SPEAKER_04:But so does anyone else you want to hear to it that you haven't heard of?
SPEAKER_01:You know who I'd like to hear? Who? His uh Queen.
SPEAKER_04:No, it's mine. What? Shut the front door. We definitely got it. We've gotta have it. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_00:We should be high-fiving and not fighting, honey.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh. Freddie Mercury and his own uh dubbed over harmonies over and over and over again.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:How?
SPEAKER_01:That'd be insanely good. It'd be so good.
SPEAKER_04:It's like a crazy little thing called Love.
SPEAKER_01:I'd love to hear Brian May just rip the whatever I did. I'd love to have him just do a solo and just kill it.
SPEAKER_04:And then the B side is crazy little thing called Love.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and that's honestly how it got queen in my head because the that is Freddie Murphy would rot just kid murder that song. Absolutely murder that song.
SPEAKER_04:That's incredible.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Uh I would also like to hear We're the twinsiest twins of all.
SPEAKER_04:I want another high five.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, there's gonna be a point, you know, there's gonna be a point in our show where we're gonna have to start saying you can't say Queen. You can't say George Benson or Ray Charles or whoever. Because Ray Charles would crush this song too. There's probably a million people who just absolutely destroy this tune.
SPEAKER_04:Well, it's just a great, it's a great song.
SPEAKER_01:It fit yeah, it just it it's it's great. I I listened to I can't we I can't remember the name of the group. I think they were probably maybe just slightly more famous than us. But they they were great. I don't know, I don't remember the names. But they had a mandolin player on it. Oh, yeah. And that sounded really cool. Yeah, yeah. Um I'd like to hear Floyd Kramer play it. Like I like I after seeing Ramsey Lewis play it, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Slipnote guy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I love Floyd Kramer. He probably has played it, honestly.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, a movie.
SPEAKER_01:Um American Pie. Stephanie Bomb.
SPEAKER_04:Oh wow. I was thinking of I can't think of it of a movie, but like a civil rights movie where they're some sort of coming of age type. Um there like cleaning up a like a montage? Like a shop. Yeah, I always cut them over montages.
SPEAKER_01:It worked well in the uh Jeez. Yeah, okay. This is a good montage song.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But a civil the civil rights thing's throwing me off. It's gotta be a fun civil rights montage.
SPEAKER_04:Well, it's like a fun part of the movie. It's a fun part of the movie where they're like getting established somewhere and getting a business going. You know what, doing really well. I'll tell you what it is. Bad things were probably gonna come later, but just for that part.
SPEAKER_01:I'll tell you what would be cool. Is uh is is the Sandman, let's say they continue together for like 10,000 years. And we're watching it. Yeah, we're watching like a some sort of Netflix just does a special on these guys. At some point, we can't watch all 10,000 meetings. So we'll see a like a and there'll be some I mean 10,000 years is plenty for all sorts of stuff to happen where people need to step up, do the right thing. So specific duties. Yeah, it'd be great in that.
SPEAKER_04:And we'll watch and we'll play that song.
SPEAKER_01:It's just like it didn't actually work out that well.
SPEAKER_04:So we're just watching it sitting amongst like a nuclear wasteland.
SPEAKER_01:Do we have a third category?
SPEAKER_04:Uh B side.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, the B side.
SPEAKER_04:But I say crazy little things a lot.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but that was also the cover, too, kind of.
SPEAKER_04:No, it was not the cover.
SPEAKER_01:You're right. No, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
SPEAKER_04:Can you think of another B-side?
SPEAKER_01:Um Honestly, I mean it's another Paul Simon song, but it's kind of got the same sort of uh fun pep to it. Uh me and or Julio down by the schoolyard.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know that one.
SPEAKER_00:See, me and Julio down by the school. Oh, does it come in? You don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that's cute that's. Oh, it's a great talk. Did he write that or is it like an adaptation? I'm pretty sure he wrote it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm almost positive he wrote it. It's a great song. Uh we used to uh me and me and Dan.
SPEAKER_04:Um Uncle Dan?
SPEAKER_01:No. Oh no, different uh Danny B. High School Dan, yeah. Me and Danny, we used to sing that song with it basically it says Meet me and Julio down by the schoolyard. And we'd always say somebody and something doing terrible, terrible things down by the schoolyard. And it'd usually be at John's expense. It'd be like Johnny P. Yeah, it'd be like just something.
SPEAKER_04:Nobody hated that.
SPEAKER_01:And we just say awful, awful. I can't repeat any of it. But we'd we just keep singing, like going back and forth and singing horrible things that people are doing down by the schoolyard.
SPEAKER_04:Right, I got it. I got you.
SPEAKER_01:You want to I don't feel like this is exciting for me. I guess no one knows who Dan and John are.
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, they'll probably reappear.
SPEAKER_01:B Side. Hey, if you at home, if you if you if you want to just have a little fun, say terrible things to me and Julio down by the schoolyard.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, I needed to learn it first so I can say them in the right.
SPEAKER_01:They don't have to be terrible, they could just be silly.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Not everything has to be terrible. Yeah. Not in high school anymore.
SPEAKER_04:Like when when we used to change the words to songs for the kids at bedtime.
SPEAKER_01:Give me an example.
SPEAKER_04:Like he's got the whole world in his hands. We used to put like all the animals and silly stuff around the room. Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's good.
SPEAKER_04:It's a family podcast. It's a lot of fun. We're just giving you guys some ideas on how to raise your kids. We each come from a different point of view.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes, we do. This is an hour and a half almost on the nose. That's exactly what you want to do. It's like a good time to wrap up. Christmas, honey.
SPEAKER_04:Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, we'll wrap it up. Make sure you watch us. If you want to hear us cover the song, you gotta go to YouTube.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:If you're not watching it on YouTube already. Uh we'll put a link to it in the description.
SPEAKER_04:I think we're up to like 27 views total cumulative across our whole channel.
SPEAKER_01:I think so. Whoa. Yeah, we're you checked it out. Eight subscribers?
SPEAKER_04:We have eight subscribers. And I'm one of 'em.
SPEAKER_01:Are you one of them? No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04:And we know my mom's not one of 'em.
SPEAKER_01:Your sister is.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, does she actually watch it?
SPEAKER_01:Jeff is.
SPEAKER_04:Um They got some real supporters in our corner.
SPEAKER_01:I think I think Mr. Wright.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh, Mr. Wright.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Shout out to shout out to everybody. Oh, a finch it might be. I mean, oh crap. Don't say his first name. Just let that die. No.
SPEAKER_04:Remember making out with Eagles? You just said Mr. Wright.
SPEAKER_01:Crap.
SPEAKER_04:Remember that one time when we were kissing penguins?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, the penguins are weird. Dreaming up bird. Anytime I say anytime I say somebody's name, real name on the show, you need to just fill it, go crazy with penguin make it make it open.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Can't wait to.
SPEAKER_01:We gotta distract them. Okay. Yeah, check us out on uh YouTube where we have the cover of uh Loves Me Like a Rock.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, that's right.
SPEAKER_01:That's it. All right, we're hanging up.
SPEAKER_04:You guys have a terrific let's high five one more time for love.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.