The Audience Won't Like It
Married hosts Rob and Leslie Shoecraft invite you into their closet (literally) for a podcast that’s equal parts nostalgia trip, music nerd-out, and absurd banter. Born from a joke about how the audience probably won’t like it, the show leans into that spirit—riffing on everything from Star Trek episodes and Kitty Wells deep cuts, to feet, crockpots, and cover songs that live on YouTube thanks to copyright.
Each week, the conversation drifts like two people killing time in line for a concert—unexpected, hilarious, and sometimes strangely profound. Future episodes explore growing up in the 80s and 90s, The Dollhouse Murders, “5 of 5” and borrowed chords in music theory, bodybuilding meal prep, Wu-Tang Clan, Gordon Lightfoot, Alan Thicke, Herb Alpert, and whatever other rabbit holes pop up along the way.
If you like side tangents, forgotten pop culture, and covers of songs your mom might love, you might just find that you do like it after all.
The Audience Won't Like It
Ep 11 – Highwayman; TMNT Shredder’s Revenge; Fruitcakes & Fireflies
We trade tea, jazz, and arcade nostalgia for a deep dive into “Highwayman,” breaking down guitar lines, phrasing, and why the 80s video refuses to go to space. Simple games, simple songs, and how restraint can feel wide open.
• what our show sounds like and why it’s equal parts music and nonsense
• Stuff the band, Julian Lage, Grover Washington Jr, and Parcels as the week’s soundtrack
• Jimmy Buffett’s Fruitcakes and why ballads stick
• Shredder’s Revenge mechanics, characters, and couch co-op chaos
• Harry Connick Jr’s rhythm trick and audience psychology
• Highwaymen context, Jimmy Webb’s writing, Glenn Campbell’s version
• guitar tones, B minor to D lift, and tasteful fills over flash
• the infamous 1985 video choices and verse-by-verse imagery
• dream covers, supergroups, and the power of minimalism
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Two married friends in a little room surrounded by clothing and two microphones actually for they got in a car crash, she died in his arms. He kissed her lips because she was still on the audience won't like it.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, they won't.
SPEAKER_00:That's pretty.
SPEAKER_03:Huh, thanks. Uh I sing the melody again.
SPEAKER_00:You mean the harmony?
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's okay. I made a death noise. It's sounded like a burp. Sorry. Is that what that was? I was trying to make like an I'm dead sound.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, cool. You're just trying to join the uh the concert.
SPEAKER_00:Join the concert early. Is that is it still recording? Uh both both waves waveforms on it? Two red waveforms.
SPEAKER_03:Wonderful. I don't want to be louder than you. You're right there. I'm right here. Hey guys, what's up? And you're right there, listener. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_00:Welcome to back to another exciting episode of The Audience Won't Like It. Is this episode 11?
SPEAKER_03:I think this is episode uh 11. I think it is. Yeah, that sounds about right. We uh we're publishing ahead, so like we don't know. Uh but yeah, 11 sounds right.
SPEAKER_00:Because we're super duper organized and proactive.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, why don't you tell the folks at home what uh this podcast is about?
SPEAKER_00:All right, well, welcome to this podcast where two married people in a little room get together and it's kind of it's a little bit of a music podcast, it's a little bit of a nonsense podcast.
SPEAKER_03:It's a lot of a nonsense podcast.
SPEAKER_00:And there's not a whole lot of anything else going on. I often will have sometimes I have a tip for you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:We have a few corners to travel around.
SPEAKER_03:It's corners, consumption. Corners of consumption.
SPEAKER_00:And then and then we we are actually in line for a concert. Uh-huh. And this concert, you have to wait outside for a little bit for the doors to open, and so you might, you know, might be next to a random stranger. And you might have to, you know, come up with some small talk and then and then it you really hit it off with that person and then you find something in common that you can feel like a stranger, I'll be honest with this.
SPEAKER_03:Are you feeling that?
SPEAKER_00:You know, it feels like we've known each other for like 23 years. Holy crap. Almost a quarter of a century.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, anyways, continue.
SPEAKER_00:And then once you like, you know, feel more comfortable or comfortable already, you already feel comfortable, then you talk about a topic for a little while.
SPEAKER_03:You're getting comfortable, you're talking about things you're into, and then maybe you arrive at some sort of long form longer form content. And then what? And then what what happens?
SPEAKER_00:And then the concert doors open and you get your instruments that you brought with you.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. And then what happens?
SPEAKER_00:And then you go on in and you see a cover of a famous person's song. This week we're gonna be seeing four people, four famous peoples. Two today when it was covered, but we we you and I each took on two books.
SPEAKER_03:Is there anything that like when you're waiting in line, do you have to know anything about like how the concert might be on only you only YouTube, but not on like Spotify and other places?
SPEAKER_00:We won't be able to hear the song here on a podcast. You can really only hear us covering the song on the YouTubes.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Sorry, go to our YouTube channel. The audience won't like it. Unless you're listening to it now, then stay right where you are.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we'll be back. Don't you move a moss? Don't you move. We can see you.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So was that good? That's good, John. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah. So those things, those are hypothetical situations that might happen.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:If two people are sitting in line for a concert.
SPEAKER_00:So this week who are we going to see, Rob?
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna go see the the highwayman.
SPEAKER_00:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:Chris Christofferson and Willie Nelson. Friends, Wayland Jennings, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash. Jonathan Cash. Jonathan Cash Morning Records. I don't know, yeah. No, probably not. He's probably a Johnny.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I have a friend who's a Jimmy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but Thomas. Yeah. I have a friend who's a Jimmy.
SPEAKER_03:And not a James.
SPEAKER_00:And not a Jimmy.
SPEAKER_03:Well, speaking of Jimmy, it was the song was originally written by Jimmy Webb. We'll get into that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I hope you remember some stuff. There's a couple things I can't wait to talk about.
SPEAKER_03:I remember stuff. Actually, can we start off with stuff?
SPEAKER_00:Some consumption stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Consumption corner.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we can.
SPEAKER_03:So this is the part where we like to make small talk in line with the stranger. Where we're kind of feeling each other. Stranger of 23 years.
SPEAKER_00:Filling each other up. Feeling each other out. Getting to know each other.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yep, yep. All around. Well, let's start with stuff. What do you think? You know what? You know what? No, no, hang on. It's a little bit of a pun.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Because the stuff is uh stuff is a band.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, have you been listening to a band called Stuff?
SPEAKER_03:I've been listening to a band called Stuff.
SPEAKER_00:That's cute.
SPEAKER_03:For about a year and a half now. I listen to them a lot this week. I I put on uh open Pandora and did play top songs kind of thing and just listen to a I have a stuff radio as well with a lot of thumbs up.
SPEAKER_00:The Apple version of that is the band's essentials playlist.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Which I do I do like that.
SPEAKER_03:I think that does a better job than Pandora does. But um no, stuff is is fantastic. It's uh Eric Gale on guitar. Well, you got a lot of folks. Steve Gadd on drums. I don't completely know the whole the whole band, but they're one of those groups who I just you know they're an instrumental kind of a full.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna ask you what kind of music are they?
SPEAKER_03:Sort of like I don't know, like the meters meets Booker T and the MGs.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, I know Booker T and the MGs so far. One for three.
SPEAKER_03:You know the meters.
SPEAKER_01:The uh clap your hands now, people, clap now, clap your hands now, people, clap your hands.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:We should do that song.
SPEAKER_00:Are we cool enough for that? No.
SPEAKER_03:We did the we did the roots, and I saw the roots cover it one time, so uh by extension. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um I'm not sure we were cool cool enough to cover the roots, but we we did it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was fun. If you missed it, this is all about us having fun and learning and and talking and listen.
SPEAKER_00:I have really used a lot of the songs that you and I have worked up for this podcast at my work. Have you really?
SPEAKER_03:So this is sort of can you get can you?
SPEAKER_00:I played gotta get a message to you the other day.
SPEAKER_03:Did you really?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, should I put this time on my timesheet?
SPEAKER_03:To who? Yeah, heck yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um a patient at the cancer center.
SPEAKER_03:You're sort of just paying yourself, you're kind of just stealing from your own company. But uh why not? I'll benefit. So, yeah, stuff is is great. They're like a whole group of session musicians basically that I'm we'll talk about more stuff later, but I love I love them, and I'm I can't believe I haven't found them until recently, but I'm glad to have found them.
SPEAKER_00:And you didn't make me listen to them, right?
SPEAKER_03:I have not. Okay. I don't think I ever have. I couldn't name a single song you might know. I don't think I had heard any except for a bunch of covers that they've done. Okay. But uh check them out if you haven't. We'll talk about them more. Um, I got a lot of instrumental stuff this week. And I watched a couple movies too.
SPEAKER_00:And we have a time crunch. So you can do it. And we have a time crunch, too.
SPEAKER_03:You you go ahead.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I just thought everyone wanted to know what kind of tea I was drinking today.
SPEAKER_03:I do. I was just wondering.
SPEAKER_00:I don't like how you laugh at my tea corner.
SPEAKER_03:Everything, there's corners everywhere.
SPEAKER_00:What kind of shape are we in? Dodecahedron?
SPEAKER_03:Nooks.
SPEAKER_00:Um I am drinking Clementine immunity support. I wanted to drink a bedtime tea, but it's only four o'clock, so I thought it'd be too late in the day.
SPEAKER_03:What does a bedtime tea have in it that makes a bedtime?
SPEAKER_00:Like lavender and chamomile, those are good bedtime herbs. Nyquil. Nyquil, melatonin. Whiskey.
SPEAKER_03:Gasoline, I think, does something to help you sleep.
SPEAKER_00:I think it like gets you like a burst like right at the top, and then you fall asleep.
SPEAKER_03:Did you have many gas huffing friends?
SPEAKER_00:I not that I was aware of. I didn't have any gas huffing friends. I could think of two people, but I don't want to say their names.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I won't say any names either. Did you? I had a couple. Yeah, you could always tell. You you could tell who huffed.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you also worked with the Charlies.
SPEAKER_03:The Charlies have the punch. Yeah, I worked with some some fine feathered paint huffers. Paint huffers. So I I thought I organized everything into what I listened to, but uh Well, I can talk about what I listened to.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, go ahead. So Rob, as as I mentioned, Rob always has 40 things and I have media.
SPEAKER_03:Do you want to talk more about tea?
SPEAKER_00:One thing. No, I just wanted everyone to know what I was drinking today. Okay. Because I'm uh because it's tea season. Consumption. And I'm consuming it.
SPEAKER_03:Soup season as well. Is there a crossover?
SPEAKER_00:No. Warm liquids, I guess.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay. There's yeah, something they have in common. Yeah. Gotcha. But there's not a crossover in the months between tea season and soup season.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, I'm sure that they happen around the same time because I don't like to drink a lot of tea or eat a lot of the summer.
SPEAKER_03:It's not actually on a calendar though. There's not a it's not a hallmark.
SPEAKER_00:Is this a is this a dig at soup season season?
SPEAKER_03:It's not.
SPEAKER_00:But it's not not. It's not not. You're not not looking at soup season. You're not not looking soup season.
SPEAKER_03:Can we be done talking about soup season?
SPEAKER_00:Do you want me to talk about the album that I listened to? I absolutely do. So because Rob always has so many things to say and I have never have anything to say, I purposefully went out and listened to an album just so I could talk about it.
SPEAKER_02:What? What did you listen to?
SPEAKER_00:Fruit Cakes by Jimmy Buffett.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:And the first two songs are so wordy, and I forgot that I had every word memorized, even all the talking parts, and I can say all the talking parts right at the right time.
SPEAKER_03:So you've been listening to this album for uh a little while then?
SPEAKER_00:High school, I think, is when I really got into it. Which we would have been out for five years at least by the time I was in high school. Okay. Um, but the first two songs are bangers, they're super fun. The fruit cakes, and then everybody's got a cousin in Miami.
SPEAKER_03:I think I've heard both of those songs, but I've heard the album a few times with you.
SPEAKER_00:And then he has a lot of nice ballads.
SPEAKER_03:I like Jimmy Buffett ballads. They're my favorite Jimmy Buffett songs.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, really?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I love his ballads. He's a great ballad writer.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, those are originals, aren't they?
SPEAKER_00:As far as I know, but he does do Uncle John's band on there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I've seen him. He that was kind of a that was a performance staple, too, if I'm not mistaken. I've I've saw him two or three times and every time he did that song.
SPEAKER_00:I saw him one time.
SPEAKER_03:That's a great tune.
SPEAKER_00:He's dead now. I feel sad about that. To be perfectly honest, I feel very sad about that. I feel like I'm a little far away from my mic. Pardon the noises.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if I am or not. That's why I just decided to record in four tracks this time so that we can do some uh mixing.
SPEAKER_00:Four tracks.
SPEAKER_03:No idea how any of that works, but one to have the potential.
SPEAKER_00:There's a lot of people out there who don't know how to do any of that.
SPEAKER_03:There's a lot of people who do who are laughing and have turned it off by now. Well, they're just laughing and walking out.
SPEAKER_00:Prophetic. Our podcast name is prophetic.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, you take it away now.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I uh so anything else you want to say about fruitcakes? Does that have any hits on it?
SPEAKER_00:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_03:Other than other people's hits, like Uncle John's band? Yeah. Which actually wasn't probably a hit.
SPEAKER_00:When I first heard it, I was obsessed with one of the songs called Love in the Library. And it doesn't hold up to for me as much as it I thought it was going to be.
SPEAKER_03:Is that like a similar to like an elevator situation? Nero Smith?
SPEAKER_00:Uh love and a library.
SPEAKER_03:Is that what it's about? Is it about hooking up in a library?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know if it's hooked, they're not hooking up, but they're falling in love there.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, so it's not like a it's not a Nerosmith.
SPEAKER_00:No, I guess not in that in that yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It's not like with a librarian and in an elevator. Yeah. In an elevator. Like, how big's this library?
SPEAKER_00:Wait, I think they're on a roller coaster and too much.
SPEAKER_03:Libraries have elevators though, in fairness. Maybe do a little mashup. Huh.
unknown:Huh.
SPEAKER_03:Too late.
SPEAKER_00:Do you remember going to the library at OU? Did you ever go to the library at OU?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's how I know libraries have elevators.
SPEAKER_00:Some of the floors were terrifying. It's like six floors. Some of the floors were scary. Yeah, you go up in the stacks and yeah, that was scary. I took a walk over.
SPEAKER_03:Did you see Ghostbusters? Of course. I have.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, see? That's a core memory.
SPEAKER_03:We'll kind of blend everything together. We have Jim. We got Jimmy Buffett who passed away. He can come to our conclusion.
SPEAKER_00:In case you don't know, we are having we're hosting a concert. We don't know when it's going to be. There's a lot of dead people featured.
SPEAKER_03:Lots. Kitty Wells. Mostly.
SPEAKER_00:Kitty Wells, I think, you know what? Let's just make her the um the uh MC.
SPEAKER_03:She's she's the MC?
SPEAKER_00:I think she should be because she was the OG of our card. She can be whatever she wants.
SPEAKER_03:She's a wild card.
SPEAKER_00:She can. She's like getting a lot of mileage out of her music as well.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So Kitty, okay, Kitty Wells, Timmy Buffett's riding in on a a dolphin. A dolphin, of course. Obviously, it could be a shark.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, he can write in a shark, that's fine.
SPEAKER_03:Alright, so fruitcakes. Solid stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Solid, fun, fun lesson.
SPEAKER_03:Awesome.
SPEAKER_00:That's all I got to say.
SPEAKER_03:Well, like I said, I went pretty heavy into the uh instrumentals. Instrumentals, because I was working a fair amount and I can't listen to music with words while doing so.
SPEAKER_00:So some research would suggest you shouldn't listen to music at all.
SPEAKER_03:Some research would suggest that actually all research that's real research would suggest that nothing applies all the way to anything. I think that I think Pareto would have words.
SPEAKER_00:Stuff about alcohol might be true.
SPEAKER_03:I don't want to talk about that. I don't even know if what I said made any sense at all. I just want to talk about Julian Laj.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I want to hear about him.
SPEAKER_03:So you know we talked about a little bit a little bit of Julian last time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because he was on Trailer Park Voice.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, his chicken rubber cokes with Jeffy Buffett.
SPEAKER_00:Man, lots happened on Trailer Park Voice in the room.
SPEAKER_03:In this case, though, I'm talking about Julian Laj. I talked about Modern Lore last time. He's a jazz guitar player, jazz and pretty much whatever else he decides to play. Modern lore was kind of a country jazz sort of mix, a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:That's a cute name for something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we talked about it a lot. I'm supposed you don't remember all about it. You just sorry, sometimes consumption corner is hard for me.
SPEAKER_00:You just wait for me to be done.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Arc Light is what I listened to. And Arc Light is uh another one of his albums. It's a bit more, I guess, pure jazz. Um, I like modern lore a bit more, but I've listened to Arc Light like on first pass, kind of, you know, like initial impressions, if you will. Arc Light though is every time I'll hear it, I'm like, God, why didn't I like this? You kind of like when you watch I think you should leave, and you're like, I don't remember laughing this hard at this last time I saw it. Like, yes, or Napoleon Dynamite or something, it just kind of ages with yeah. Uh that's this album for me. Like the whole thing's very, very wonderful. Uh he plays a telecaster on, I think. Nocturne is on there, it's a great song. Persian Rug. I wrote down Presley was a good one. Got some great bass lines. Scott Coley, I think is the dude's name. Anyways, uh, we'll talk more about Old Julian some other point.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, like another podcast. Another podcast.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we got we gotta move on. We've got to move on to Beyond the Missouri Sky short stories by that's right, Leslie, Pat Matheny, and Charlie.
SPEAKER_00:I thought it was maybe a book, and I was trying to think of an author that I might have known. Shell Silverstein.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, by Shell Silverstein, and he can come.
SPEAKER_00:For sure. He's already got it, he's gonna have to come if Johnny Couch is coming.
SPEAKER_03:He's gonna ride in on a uh a snake that's slowly eating him, is going to drag him in. I think that's what's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, he's gonna ride in in the longest car in the world. Once you get in to get where you're going, you get out because you're there. Oh, yeah. That's how he'll get there.
SPEAKER_03:That reminds me of like if you have uh, you know, like a pole that goes from here to like Alpha Centuri planet and you push the pole, will somebody on the other end feel it immediately?
SPEAKER_00:Huh. No.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, they will not. So I love little concepts like that. That I can't explain.
SPEAKER_04:Don't know the answer to the moon. Yeah. Julia.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, um to talk about the moon for a second. I I want to make sure that this um this is new recording stuff. I want to make sure it's still recording.
SPEAKER_00:Well, something I've been actually consumptioning lately. Uh speaking of outer space is I'm trying to keep my eyes and ears locked in on uh three eye atlas.
SPEAKER_03:We're so good. Yeah, yeah. Tell me about this.
SPEAKER_00:I don't have anything new to say. There isn't a whole lot to say.
SPEAKER_03:It'll probably be uh turned out to have been either nothing or the end of the world by the time this year is anyway. Yeah, that's true. So that's so true.
SPEAKER_00:See, if you're not paying attention to it.
SPEAKER_03:I heard there are like 50 million reptiles on it or something. Oh my gosh. Lizard people?
SPEAKER_00:Lizard people, something like that might be on it. Yeah, they're coming to get the one. They're coming to get the royal family.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, is that right?
SPEAKER_00:The royal family is lizard people.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:Like Prince Charles. Which ones?
SPEAKER_03:Which royal family are you talking about? Coming to America.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not. Okay. Anyway, but if you're not following Three Eye Atlas, I'd highly recommend it.
SPEAKER_03:That'd be a great name for a band in like 40 years. Three Eye Atlas. Yeah, if it like winds up being nothing. Or if it winds up being something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Great name for a concert. Oh my gosh. Hey, but Charlie Hayden, Pat Matheny. Mm-hmm. Short stories. Duo. Pat Matheny on guitar. Pat Matheny is kind of like Julian Laj. Play anything he wants to extremely well. Doesn't play too much, doesn't play too little, plays just the right amount. Charlie Hayden's a great bass player. Don't know a whole lot about him, but he's great on this album. I've listened to it multiple times. I was drawn to it because Cinema Paradiso by Neomorricone is one of my favorite pieces of music of all time, and they do a cover of it. Uh two versions. Well, not two versions, but they do Love's Theme and like I think it's is it Love's Theme or Nadia's theme? I can't remember the name of it. But it's like two parts. And it's great. And they have a lot of other good stuff on there. It's just good, you know, study music to have in the background. I as you know, I like guitar.
SPEAKER_00:I cannot do work with music on of any kind.
SPEAKER_03:Of any kind. Nothing? Shoot.
SPEAKER_00:If it's your music, sure, I can tune that right out. Like if I'm playing if you got something no, no, like if you're playing something, if something is playing that I didn't select.
SPEAKER_03:Have you ever tried listening to um the Grover Washington Jr.?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_03:The Columbia Years?
SPEAKER_00:No. Is he related to Booker T Washington Jr.?
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah. Their sisters.
SPEAKER_00:Sister.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh little T and Tamara. They cannot. They can't come. Sorry. Well, they might. I don't know. They it this is.
SPEAKER_00:What was their show called? Sister Sister?
SPEAKER_03:Are they the first ones that can't come?
SPEAKER_00:Well crap. They can come. They can come.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, sorry. We're just kidding. We're just kidding.
SPEAKER_00:Is that what their show was called? Sister's sister. Yeah, sister sister. Was it on TGI Friday? I don't know if it was. What was it on?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. Who cares?
SPEAKER_02:I don't yeah, I don't care.
SPEAKER_00:Continue to tell us about Booker. My brother can tell you.
SPEAKER_03:I think he watched like every episode. Not Booker T Washington, Grover Washington Jr. Sorry. Well, you know, uh, I think he was the saxophone player on just the two of us.
SPEAKER_00:The one we're thinking about doing?
SPEAKER_03:I think he was.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I did Wine Light. It was a great uh, I think that was the name of the album. Sick, sick saxophone player. Uh Mr. Magic. That's a jazz standard. You might know it if you heard it, but I know you probably don't know it by name. Anyways, uh you presuppose a lot about me. I do, but I just I I know you don't. Right, do you? No. So I like this uh album because it has uh it has it has a version of Take Five. I feel like every album has a take version of Take Five on it.
SPEAKER_00:Sing a little ditty of that.
SPEAKER_03:George Benson has a sweet version of that on Bad Benson. If you ever want to hear a nice guitar riff of that.
SPEAKER_00:Bad Benson Brown.
SPEAKER_03:This one is like, it's almost has like I swear it has like 808s on it, like the like trap rap kind of that kind of stuff. It sounds like it. It's not my favorite kind of jazz, but uh it's a bit like Quiet Storm kind of like super synthie. There's a lot of vocals on it too, which is not what I think. I liked about five songs on it. One of them was uh The Love in His Infant's Eyes.
SPEAKER_00:Did uh Tim and Eric make that song out? Did they write that song?
SPEAKER_03:Remind me to talk about some double HJ uh Tim and Eric at the uh when we get into High We Man. Okay. I don't know why. Okay. I think I wrote it down.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think that's appropriate for that.
SPEAKER_03:Protect the dream, though. That's my favorite song. That's what made me want to listen to the album because I really like that song. And apparently that's what it was on. Uh the Columbia Years. Uh Grover Washington Jr. Yeah, pretty good. Check it out if you really like Grover Washington Jr. Or Columbia Years.
SPEAKER_00:Is he related to Grover from Sesame Stream?
SPEAKER_03:I think that's his uh It's his brother. It's his brother, yeah. Who was his sister again? He's a big family. Booker T. Is there a wrestler named Booker T?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. A wrestler?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know stuff, Rob.
SPEAKER_03:You know stuff. You know what else we did?
SPEAKER_00:What'd we do? You and me?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. What? Well, what what what did you do? What did you do on your own?
SPEAKER_00:Nothing. Cleaned.
SPEAKER_03:Um I have nothing to say. Well, we watched uh Parcels Tiny Desk.
SPEAKER_00:We did.
SPEAKER_03:Tiny Desk show with Parcels. We talked about Live One. Live Volume One.
SPEAKER_00:Why do we keep it on Live One?
SPEAKER_03:Are live ones?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I never looked that up. It bothers me from last time. Anyways.
SPEAKER_00:That's like two times ago.
SPEAKER_03:They're great. I like, I don't know. What did you think? Don't let me. Do you do you like them?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I did like them. Are they the ones, sorry, that were like Jamaica adjacent?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you brought that up last time.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, then yes, I did like them.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like they were a little um well, definitely daft punked, but um who else did I write down? Yeah, I was feeling a lot of beach boys from them. Oh they all sing, they all do great harmonies. Almost sound like Beach Boys on the Ball Skags album or song or something.
SPEAKER_00:Were they the ones that all looked exactly the same with different hair? Yes. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they don't, but yes, I know that's they do. Yeah.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:They all have like the same body type, kind of long faces and then some variation of the fluffy haircut.
SPEAKER_03:That's just that's how they do it down in the middle.
SPEAKER_00:How old are they? Young.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. They can't be that old.
SPEAKER_00:They're not as old as us.
SPEAKER_03:They look like they're like 22.
SPEAKER_00:Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_03:No, they're probably older than that.
SPEAKER_00:How much older? I thought 30.
SPEAKER_03:We'll find out next time. Uh, write us write right in and let us know.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. If you're from the parcels.
SPEAKER_03:What else do we watch? Uh watch somebody do uh watched uh uh uh postmodern jukebox do gummy bears.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh. I've I've watched a bit of postmodern jukebox this week, too.
SPEAKER_03:What did you think of that cover?
SPEAKER_00:It was ridiculous, but I mean the world needed it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I thought so. I think the world needed that guy playing the electric uh saxophone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, what was that? Did you ever look that up? I didn't. It looked like a uh metallophone. Do you know what that is? Or a choir chime. Do you know what a choir chime is? It's like a rectangle rectangular metal box and it has a slit in the top half of it, and you hold the bottom half and you and you s hit it forward, and there's a knocker on it, and it rings the tone.
SPEAKER_03:Are you laughing because he said knocker? Yeah. That's why I'm laughing.
SPEAKER_00:But anyway, it looked like he was playing like a metal rectangle, didn't it? Yeah. A little squidwardy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was very is that when he's playing a knocker?
SPEAKER_00:But it's a choir time, it has a knocker. Like a door knocker.
SPEAKER_03:That guy was great. He had some shiny pants too.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I didn't notice.
SPEAKER_03:Uh oh, really?
SPEAKER_00:I was caught up in the gummy bear Mariah Carey.
SPEAKER_03:I yeah, she was pretty good. She was great. She was good.
SPEAKER_00:What was her name?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. But she was just going. She was she had just a little bit of courage. She was courageous, if you will.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know how caring she was. She kind of was a kind of a diva. They're not known for being caring.
SPEAKER_03:Not being known for being faithful and friendly. She shared a story though. Anyways, we can continue. We'll just do a cover of that someday. How does that sound? Sounds good. All right. Uh we're moving fast because we got stuff to we got we got stuff to do tonight, you know. Um Flats and Scrugs. We watched like what, like four or something.
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna put that on my list, yeah. Yeah. Foggy Mountain Breakdown.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Lester Flat and Earl Scruggs.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we went on a little journey though, because then we watched uh Ralph Stanley.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Who else? Watch a little hee haw. Yeah. That was Roy Clark.
SPEAKER_03:So we like to do this thing we started doing where we got a kind of a nice home theater type setup. All sorts. So when we watch a movie and we don't have something to do immediately after, not a movie necessarily, but anything. Anything. Uh I'll I'll throw up, I'll pull up YouTube and I'll watch things like Parcels Tiny Desk.
SPEAKER_00:We'll just see where the what takes us.
SPEAKER_03:Jackson 5 and uh Oh, that's right. Cher. Yeah. That was that was pretty good. They did a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Cher could not hang. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:No one could hang with Michael Jackson.
SPEAKER_00:But even the rest of them. I mean, she couldn't hang with the other four.
SPEAKER_03:No, I think I'd seen that before, and I remember thinking the same, but like honestly, she did she's better than I was.
SPEAKER_00:She was super thin.
SPEAKER_03:She was having fun. Yeah, she was uh she was all elbows.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she was and knees.
SPEAKER_03:It was in the air too in there.
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh. Two. Yeah. I think.
SPEAKER_03:Michael Jackson was just man, what a freak.
SPEAKER_00:He's like, doesn't have gravity. He's not experiencing gravity the way we are. What if he was a quantum being?
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna talk about remind me to talk about quantum beings.
SPEAKER_00:Are you kidding?
SPEAKER_03:No. No, not quantum leap.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay. But what if he was a quantum being who wasn't subject to the same physics that we are?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, is that why he was doing so amazing at dancing and stuff? He needed uh Oh, you know what? That's why we want to dance with Cher. Because he he had the elephant man bones, and I think he was in it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, that's crazy elephant.
SPEAKER_03:John Barracks remains trying to raise awareness for Richard Dunn.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03:Richard Dunn will definitely be in our show.
SPEAKER_00:He can be the MC. Sorry. Sorry, Kidding.
SPEAKER_03:From Richard Dudd.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, send us your buns.
SPEAKER_03:Um, okay. Anyways, uh Ramsey Lewis Trio. Watch them again. Because I wanted to show you Cleveland Eaton, the bass player. And I still did not make an impact.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I'm sorry. One of these days.
SPEAKER_03:One of these days. He's great. I love him. He's my new favorite uh person. What? Um yeah, sorry. If you would know who he was, then you would still be me. Yeah, then it would still be you. Until you know who he is. It will be the wand you are not.
SPEAKER_00:Well, why don't you marry him then?
SPEAKER_03:He's dead. He could be in our show.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was gonna say that's not stopping anybody from I think he's dead.
SPEAKER_03:I hope I don't know. I hope I'm wrong.
SPEAKER_00:I hope he is now that I've said that.
SPEAKER_03:Uh watched Eric Johnson, do some shredding.
SPEAKER_00:Uh watched uh, you put the terrible Axl Rose song on.
SPEAKER_03:November Rain. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, that's not a bad song, but he's terrible.
SPEAKER_03:November Rain's a great song.
SPEAKER_00:He's can we can you agree with me though that he's just singing? He's not my favorite. His singing voice is just wrestling.
SPEAKER_03:It did not age well, his voice. Um I I can get down with some Axl Rose, though, on in the in the good old days. Roy Clark. We watched Roy Clark.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I said that. We watched him on Hee-Haw.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that's what you were talking about. I guess.
SPEAKER_00:Although we watched him play uh Malaguenia?
SPEAKER_03:Is that what it was? Yeah, but you may have started off.
SPEAKER_00:Everyone's like, I hate this girl.
SPEAKER_03:No, everybody hates me, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, right in now.
SPEAKER_03:If you don't know, if you don't like instrumental guitar music, you just might as well unsubscribe because that's jump up and Leslie keeps me uh randing because she doesn't like it either. Um I watched I don't really know how to take that. You say, you really like guitars, too. All you ever do is talk about guitars.
SPEAKER_00:You do. You talk about guitars, you listen to instrumental guitar players, you watch them on TV, you play 'em, you think about them. That's guitar nerd.
SPEAKER_03:I am. I'm a guitar nerd, but I'm not I'm not the guitar nerd that everybody wants me to be.
SPEAKER_00:Who wants you to be that?
SPEAKER_03:People who ask me about gear and stuff, I was like, oh.
SPEAKER_00:That's okay. That's what I was saying. You're not the you're not the tech guitar nerd. You're an acoustic guitar nerd. I just want to talent, musical talent nerd.
SPEAKER_03:I just want to like smell guitars and play them. Nuzzle them. Nuzzle them. Kiss them.
SPEAKER_00:That's a good idea. Massage them. I think it's a good idea to get to like really try to manipulate a guitar physically. Yeah. And like get it really wet. And like you're like licking it, like you were just talking about kissing it. I think it's really good for the health of the guitar.
SPEAKER_03:You're doing great. You're doing terrific.
SPEAKER_00:It's a joke because if you mess with your guitars, it'll really screw them up.
SPEAKER_03:I watched the uh saddest movie ever made.
SPEAKER_00:What was it called?
SPEAKER_03:It was called Grave of the Fireflies.
SPEAKER_00:Gee, that sounds uplifting.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, it was made in, let me see if I can pull it up here. Oh, is it oh, this is this is what I call this is a new new section. Ready? Oh no. The bike movies.
SPEAKER_00:Oh. Can that just be called Consumption Corner? Bike movie corner.
SPEAKER_03:It's a new bike movie. Well, it's not a corner. Fine, it's under the consumption corner, but it's a bike movie.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Not to be confused with a motorcycle romance novel.
SPEAKER_00:Person. I didn't read a single one of those this week. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_03:So, so I I I I watched Grave of the Fireflies. I don't know why I watched that. I don't know how I heard of it. Um it's really, really good and really uh, really, really Is it devastating? It's devastating.
SPEAKER_00:What's it about?
SPEAKER_03:It's about two. I'm just gonna go ahead and spoil a bit of it.
SPEAKER_00:When did it come out?
SPEAKER_03:Mom, don't watch it. Uh my mom always says, Does a child die? I can't watch it if a child dies. Child dies, mom. Horribly. That's pretty sad. The cutest little like four-year-old.
SPEAKER_00:What happens to him?
SPEAKER_03:Her um. Uh so it's an orphan cup, uh, or two orphan. Orphan couple. An orphan go over watching the junior. And Tia and Tamara.
SPEAKER_00:An orphan thruple.
SPEAKER_03:Well, Tia and Tamara won. Oh, okay. In this.
SPEAKER_00:In this one. They're like Mary Kate and Ashley Olson. Remember they used to list their names as one.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Yeah, it's that. Um I can't actually remember their names. What happens to them? Who cares? World War II. Oh, oh, okay. Mom gets mom gets burned terribly and dies. It's like the firebombings. I don't remember.
SPEAKER_00:Were they in London?
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no. Japan. Oh. Um, I can't remember the name of the city. Um, I'm not gonna do a full breakdown, but it it is just um I I I never want to watch it again, although at the same time I thought maybe I need to watch this movie whenever I complain about uh living in a place of peace and abundance.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because uh the most like happiest scenes in this movie are like when they're eating rice, you know, and then just like it's sad. There's you know, there's the the little girl just slowly starves to death, malnutrition, and they're trying basically that's the sad part is is like it's a it's kind of a movie about pride too, because the boy and immaturity, I don't know what you wanted.
SPEAKER_00:Why did you choose this?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I just heard it was great and I wanted to watch it. It was made by the same thing. Same company who did uh Spirited Away.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, was it anime?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was uh like Oh, was that the one you were asking me if I wanted to watch?
SPEAKER_00:Yes. And I was like, no. If you think I want to, you let me know. And you clearly knew I didn't.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, well, his litter little sister dies. He's like a teenage boy, and then his like maybe four-year-old sister, and they their mom dies, dad's at sea, he winds up dying. He's like a naval commander. Um, and they get kicked out of uh they get uh kind of adopted by their aunt. She's kind of a she's kind of she's kind of a villainy character, but she's honestly she's just like 10 uh sanctimonious, really holier than thou woman that we know, you know, just like passive aggressive. Like she's awful, but she's not that awful.
SPEAKER_00:Like she's not evil, she's just kind of a butt.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. They move out, the boy, they find this like little cave they like to hang out in. They decide, okay, we're gonna take all the money that mom left had in the bank, we're gonna buy all the rice we need, everything we need. They set up this place in this cavern, and it's like for like five seconds, this fun, you know. Um, yeah, this this good this is great. Uh what's the word? Uh kind of a whimsical.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And they have like all these fireflies that they just decorate the entire inside with. And what does the ocean? Well, then all the fireflies die, and they keep having to bury the fireflies, and it's the little girl's like, why? She's like the per whoever made this movie had um they must have had a four-year-old girl at home because like it's the perfect balance of like annoying and precious. She's like per and the details in this movie are incredible. There's stuff that it's just I see why people go crazy over it. Yeah. I recommend watching it. You will not feel good. Already sad.
SPEAKER_00:If you'd like to be sad, you're not already sad.
SPEAKER_03:We don't need to talk anymore about the soundtrack. It's pretty cool. Kind of reminded me of Kill Bill a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, a lot of flutes. You know, like flutes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um yeah, there were some flute solos on the uh the fruit cakes album.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, really? Yeah, I'm gonna do it. Oh, yeah, you played that for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. I got it. I got it. Uh I started watching uh The Irishman. I'll talk about next week. Okay, yeah. It's three and a half hours.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Another Cold War.
SPEAKER_00:Man, why don't why do movies have to be so long? I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I just keep picking these long freaking movies. Um and Gummy Bears, we talked about that. Good, good, good. I think we're running. Harriet Connig Jr. I just wanted to talk about that real quick. Tell me about that video. What was going on there? Is that what you were gonna talk about? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so he was doing a concert where the audience, who may or may not have been primarily white people, were clapping on the one and the three. They were clapping on the one and the three. So that means uh like one, two, three, four. And so that's the downbeat. Uh he wanted them clapping on the offbeat, which would be the two and the four. So one, two. Like that. Yeah. Yeah, gotcha. And so he was playing in four, four. He added a measure of five, four. So it was like one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, five, one, two, three, four. And what that accomplished was moving everybody. They didn't stop, they didn't change what they were clapping. He just changed it so that his beats were now the opposite, and that they were all of a sudden clapping on two and four.
SPEAKER_03:It's wild.
SPEAKER_00:It was crazy. I watched it several times.
SPEAKER_03:It's like uh freaking Jedi stuff. Yeah, Harry Connor Connor Jr.'s got some chops. He's not a bad actor either.
SPEAKER_00:He hasn't done anything bad yet, has he? I feel like pretty much people we just we talk about someone and like the next week they're just dropping with allegations. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So you're still uh having some problems with Neil Gaiman there, aren't you?
SPEAKER_00:Him and everybody else. I mean, bubbles from trailer. I know, bubbles, come on, dude. Where the kitty's and the guy from that 70s show?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, but yeah, he's uh what's his face?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. I don't care. We won't go into that. Guys, just stay home. If you can't control yourselves, just don't go anywhere. Don't interact. Just stay home.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there's plenty of stuff to watch. It's plenty of consumption corny. Write us right in. Let us know what you're watching.
SPEAKER_00:I I don't want to know. Just direct it to Rob.
SPEAKER_03:Well, let me know what you think I'd like. I keep telling you to write in, I don't have an email address to give you. But if you hop on YouTube right now, you can comment. You can comment on Facebook. You'd be the first person. Hey, there's this thing on spot. If you go on Spotify or Apple Music or whatever, and you hit message us or whatever you listen to the podcast, it will text us. It'll text me.
SPEAKER_00:They don't have your phone.
SPEAKER_03:It doesn't come from now, it's some sort of handoff. But okay. So we could do it that way.
SPEAKER_00:Do you think that's how why how come I keep getting all these phone calls from car dealerships and state parts?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I don't actually know. I haven't even tested it. Someone's trying to message us about this podcast. Yeah. I heard you say you liked Eric Gale. I think also. All right. So um, gosh, that's really cool. Uh God, I you know, if you like fruitcakes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I do. I also like pizza.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna take a guess. Oh, you do?
SPEAKER_00:I do like pizza. Is that what you were gonna ask me? I liked, I do.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna ask you if you like revenge.
SPEAKER_00:Uh it's a dish best served cold.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna have to watch a revenge movie.
SPEAKER_00:I I like The Punisher. And he has some revenge at the beginning of his story, right?
SPEAKER_03:No, that's what causes him to see.
SPEAKER_00:I know, but doesn't he is that like what's this?
SPEAKER_03:Is this K Wells?
SPEAKER_00:I know that his whole I know his whole backstory, but I was thinking that then he is driven to find the Oh really, you know his whole backstory? Frank Castle really Frank Castle and I go way back. So don't even just stop.
SPEAKER_03:Um no, Punisher's a great story of vengeance. And yeah, anyways.
SPEAKER_00:Does it have any uh am amphibian turtles?
SPEAKER_03:Amphibian?
SPEAKER_00:Is a turtle an amphibian or a reptile?
SPEAKER_03:It's an amphibian. Okay. Yeah. What are you doing over there with this chair?
SPEAKER_02:What are you doing with the chair? Is it amphibian? Is it amphibian?
SPEAKER_00:I think it depends on how many there are.
SPEAKER_03:It's not like you can have an amphibian.
SPEAKER_00:I think if it's just one, it's a phibian. And if there's more than one, it's an amphibian.
SPEAKER_03:What name am I looking for? Amphibian. Amphibian?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, but I just said something pretty funny. And you're gonna really you're gonna laugh when you listen to it. Nope, not saying anything about it. Hey, hang on.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah. Everybody heard it. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Um Rob does this thing where he talks over me a lot. He's a lot better about it.
SPEAKER_03:I was trying to think about Amphibian.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:You understand.
SPEAKER_00:But then when he goes back to listen to the podcast for quality control, I guess. I just like listening to it. No, I'm sorry, so I can catch stuff on the road. You said something funny. I'm sorry I didn't hear it at the time. So that will be a good one. You can this will be like a little Easter egg for you, honey.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, how much time do we have Forty minutes? Okay. Well, let's get talking about shredders for.
SPEAKER_00:Revenge. Okay. We played a video. Oh my gosh. And their music video. Okay. That's what I've been dying to talk about. All right. Rob and I played a video game this week called The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Shredder's Revenge. I don't think it's Ant Revenge. Ant Phibian Shredder's Revenge.
SPEAKER_03:Ant Viv's Revenge. The original Ant Viv comes back. Takes up. It's at the robot. New Ant Viv.
SPEAKER_00:Are they turtles because I mean are they amphibians because they can go in the water?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, sorry. Or is it because they ate that pizza?
SPEAKER_03:That's what it is. They didn't eat the pizza though. It was uh ooze. Ooze. Yeah. It was mu mut ooze that mutated them.
SPEAKER_00:Why don't you tell us about it and then I'll just chime in.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not going to give you the turtles' backstory.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no. About the video game.
SPEAKER_03:The video game?
SPEAKER_00:And Tredder's Revenge. What?
SPEAKER_03:Ant Tredder?
SPEAKER_00:Ant Shredder's.
SPEAKER_03:He seems a lot less threatening when you call him Ant Shredder. It's a Medea movie. Ant Vivian and Ant Shredder.
SPEAKER_00:Shredder plays every character.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:He just has different wigs. He still has a metal face.
SPEAKER_03:So speaking of metal face, we'll do uh MF, do some MF to him sometime. Okay. Anyways. You tell me about it. Tell what do you think? I want to hear your first impression.
SPEAKER_00:I want you to like tell like it was a beat-em-up from 2022.
SPEAKER_03:It is a throwback from I think Tribute might be the publisher. Konami. Okay. We're going to go back to 1989.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, one too. I was six years old.
SPEAKER_03:I was uh seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure was. Well, look at you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um slowly but surely. Are you sure you're a stranger? A little bit more of our demographics. Are you sure you're a stranger of 23 years? It's gonna come out.
unknown:So yeah.
SPEAKER_03:My mother's made a name in it. And just reminds me of my social security. So uh in 1989, Konami, which is one of the best doggone video game makers of all time, at least music-wise.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Oh yeah, the soundtrack is pretty bomb. You liked it?
SPEAKER_03:Pretty bomb, yeah. So they made Teenage Mutant Internals the arcade game. That was one of the first arcade games I fell in love with. I played it at a birthday party. I can't even remember if it was my birthday party, because all I can remember is spending tons of money on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
SPEAKER_00:What facility were you in? An arcade?
SPEAKER_03:I think a Bullwinkles.
SPEAKER_00:What's a Bullwinkles?
SPEAKER_03:I think that was a like an arcade pizza place in uh California.
SPEAKER_00:Like a Billy, like uh Chuck E. Cheeses.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, kind of thing like that. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You have a Billy Bob's But I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:They had an they had they had a Ninja Turtles arcade game machine there. That's all I remember about them. I remember spending a ton of money beating Shredder. We'd I spent I sat there and just played with three other people and just sweat and had a great great time. I think I probably spent 20 bucks beating the game.
SPEAKER_00:Wow. Is that a lot?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. I mean, especially when the life is a quarter, you know, probably more than that. Who knows? Anyways.
SPEAKER_00:Could you get extra lives though with in the gameplay?
SPEAKER_03:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. So you just had like three to start and then you had two quarters.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I was if you are if you could, I was never good enough to do it. I don't believe you could. I love beat-em-ups, I love side-scrolling brawlers. I could play them all day long. I think I'm the only one in the family who might, except Caroline seemed to be having a good time playing Ninja Turtles with Caroline seems to have a good time.
SPEAKER_00:In general.
SPEAKER_03:Clark was not impressed.
SPEAKER_00:He and I did talk a little bit about it in the car without you.
SPEAKER_03:Anyways, we'll get there. This game, so there have been plenty of Turtles games released since even Turtle beat 'em ups. Uh Turtles and Time was a great one. Hit the consoles. Did you ever play that?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_02:Messing with me. We can talk about Turtles in Time. Turtles in Time.
SPEAKER_03:Anyways. Uh I can't remember the name of the uh company, but Streets of Rage 4. Streets have you heard of Streets of Rage?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I have heard of Streets of Rage.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, well, no, easy. Sorry. Easy. Streets of Rage is widely considered to be, it's definitely in pretty much everybody's top five.
SPEAKER_00:Can you name some characters from Streets of Rage?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, uh Axel, Blaze, um uh heck's the guy's name. Uh Skates. No, is it Skates?
SPEAKER_00:Skates. Max. Max.
SPEAKER_03:Um you got uh it's not gonna be a good thing. Yeah, anyways.
SPEAKER_00:I thought it was gonna be like Mortal Kombat characters. No. Was that a first side scrolling?
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, there was technically one. It was with uh Shaolin Mox or something. It was uh it was kind of an RPG too.
SPEAKER_00:Really underrated games Kung Lao and What were some other uh side-scrolling popular arcades side scrollers?
SPEAKER_03:So Alien versus Predator was a pretty huge game. Um there was a Punisher one with Never played that Nick Fury and Punisher, Vendetta.
SPEAKER_00:Um I think I only think I think I played. Was there a Mortal Kombat arcade game? But it wasn't side scrolling, but it was a fighting game, right?
SPEAKER_03:Technically side scrolling, but yeah, it was like all so there's a difference between fight that's called like a fighting game. Yeah, I guess it's like one-on-one usually, yeah. But then you have kind of you have these these side scrolling, these beat-em-ups, which are all often side scrolling, but then you have like also top-down, kind of in the same genre of like top-down shooters, like a spinoff, maybe, or like bullet hell games. Like, I like the it's basically just you jump in, tons of stuff is coming at you at once, and you either beat it up with your fists or you shoot it or you bomb it, or whatever. Beat-em-ups are uh final fight, is another one, it's a big one. Um I mean, I could there's I love uh I pretty much love all beat-em-ups, they're great. Double dragons, huge one you might have heard of.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I did play double dragons.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so we're you you you see that you walk around and you just beat hordes of enemies. You might even call Dynasty Warriors. Have you played that? No, yeah, uh we're we're we're reaching, anyways. Streets of Rage 4 came out, it was a huge hit, and by the way, that game is sweet. I almost had you played that instead, but I thought Turtles just you were kind of more familiar with Ninja Turtles than you were, so and I I I wanted to beat it. Yeah, I wanted to beat it anyway. Um, so it is a reboot, not a reboot, but it's it was made in the same with the same guts, tons of fan service. It almost feels like you're playing like the the 80s cartoon. Like it the graphics are are great. You may not have been it's so smooth. Those games back in the day used to get bogged down and they would just be crawling. You know, X-Men, by the way. That's another one. Yeah, X-Men.
SPEAKER_00:X-Men. Okay, that maybe I'm thinking about that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. With six players, six player X?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I think I played that.
SPEAKER_03:That game gets a little like it could those original kind of crawls a little bit. This is just buttery smooth. You play with six characters, they got all the turtles, they got Casey Jones, you could unlock him at the end. Spoiler alert, sorry. Um no.
SPEAKER_00:Is that who I played the other day?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think you were Casey Jones.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he was clunky.
SPEAKER_03:You thought so? Who'd you like the most?
SPEAKER_00:Leonardo.
SPEAKER_03:Leonardo. Yeah. He's he's yeah, he's solid. I I might have liked April the most. I didn't I played with Raphael, didn't like him that much.
SPEAKER_00:I I I liked April. What did no Splinter. I did like Splinter.
SPEAKER_03:I liked the Splinters.
SPEAKER_00:But I think I liked I think I liked Leonardo better.
SPEAKER_03:I like the quick players.
SPEAKER_00:Sing the song real quick. He's a radical rat.
SPEAKER_03:Sing all of the turtle sneak song right now. Can you just sing like real loud, are we?
SPEAKER_00:Can you just say what they each are? Like Splinter's a radical rat.
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, see Splinter taught him to me, Ninja Teens. He's a radical rat. Uh there in the hash, there you go.
SPEAKER_03:Uh dang it.
SPEAKER_02:Leonardo Lee's Davidello does machines. Raphael is cool, but rude, give me a break.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's Michelangelo. He's a party, dude. Okay, thank you. That's what I want to hear.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so the soundtrack is sick on this game. Wouldn't you say?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, I liked how it was like tons of variations on uh dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
SPEAKER_03:I love the just the mix, the the instrumental stuff is is great. It's so old school. But then you also have like there's some some of the uh stages had like words, like like a singer, but it was just perfect, kind of cheesy and very self-aware and very fun. And I thought the soundtrack was it was great.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, it was great.
SPEAKER_03:Um, what did you feel about the game itself?
SPEAKER_00:So it was very fun at the first. Okay. But here's what happens. This is what me and Clark were talking about. Go ahead. It gets harder and I don't get any better, and then I get like down and defeated and bummed out and fatigued. If I was getting better, and also like I felt like when we because we went back and tried to learn some combo moves, and so I thought I had a couple of them really nailed down, which I should have just kept playing Leonardo, but I was trying to be you know, do my research for this podcast and I felt like they didn't the combo thing didn't work as good for whatever the heck that guy's name was.
SPEAKER_03:The timing's different.
SPEAKER_00:Is it because of their speed ratings?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I was kind of having the same problem with Raphael, plus he had like he's super powerful, but he had like really short range and is kind of slow. I like Michelangelo and April because they're just super fast. Yeah. Um I think I liked April the most.
SPEAKER_00:I felt like Splinter was more precise. I could control him the best.
SPEAKER_03:Gotcha. Well, that's one thing about the game is once you do have your character down, it's very precise. Yeah. What the controls do. If you get if you get your butt kicked in it, it's you know, it's your fault. Like it's not the game isn't being glitchy, like it's pretty tight.
SPEAKER_00:Um I think it's it was the most fun. It's more fun than more people.
SPEAKER_03:So you like playing with six players? Oh, we never played with we never did.
SPEAKER_00:We just had four.
SPEAKER_03:We played with four. Caroline and I played with six.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but it was more fun like when Clark was playing with us, it was more fun.
SPEAKER_03:With three? Mm-hmm. I think three is perfect because you could see everything that's going on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but I kind of like the the insanity of not knowing what the heck's going on.
SPEAKER_03:And then being like, I'm like the best in our room, and then when I go online and play, I'm I'm the worst.
SPEAKER_00:Excuse me, you're not better than me.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, yeah, you're right. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:I do there was that one time when I got like 98 hits in a row.
SPEAKER_03:I got 300 some in a row. Like I found some glyphs.
SPEAKER_00:That is my one of my favorite things, is how you if if you keep hitting the dead body, it won't disintegrate until you're done hitting it. And it counts all those hits. I love that.
SPEAKER_03:It is great. That brings me some dream. And it fills your special bar up.
SPEAKER_00:I guess you can have your special move. Yeah. And you can max out your special moves.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you can uh in the story mode, you can max it up to one, you could actually kind of level up to like level eight, I think, and then once you get there, you can store your specials. And then when you store your specials, you can do like radical mode, which is kind of a bust in my opinion. I didn't think it was worth it. I thought it did something different than what it did. It just kind of gives you just like kind of padded stat points. Yeah, but I like this using the specials because they make you kind of invincible at the time. This doesn't necessarily do that.
SPEAKER_00:I like when that pizza made you um crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, where you get the never ending Ninja Power. The freaking uh what was it? April. April should be eating all the pizza. I must have been playing with an eight, like an eight-year-old yesterday because it's probably like somebody's mom.
SPEAKER_00:They're just looking up really bad moods. Like, I'm gonna I'm gonna log in online and then I'm gonna eat all the pizzas while Ray S fights the enemies.
SPEAKER_03:It's just four of us playing. April runs in and eats all the pizza.
SPEAKER_00:Two online players. And like what's funny to me is like, of course, in like my I'm a mom, so I just assume online play means like you can talk to the people and then you can interact with them.
SPEAKER_03:Some games you can't.
SPEAKER_00:But it does it you're just logged in and other people are logged in and you can't strange forms of communication where you just use what you have.
SPEAKER_03:Like I was sitting there and going like Any comments?
SPEAKER_02:Any comments in April?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like yeah, because they have that, they all have a catchphrase.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, you could do the uh the what do you call it? Uh uh Taunt. Taunt. Yeah, taunt. And maybe if you do a taunt, it takes like three seconds. If you get hit, you have to it doesn't count. But if you pull it off, then you refill your special. Ah. So that like that's there's a lot of strategy to that. I use it in boss fights a lot. Um sorry. Yeah, I love the moveset. You know, the original turtles had like basically jump, uh jump attack and a and an attack. This has like what 30 different moves.
SPEAKER_00:Did you feel like the story mode mode was just sort of like ridiculous? Like it didn't mean that. Well, because it didn't seem like it didn't eat. Does it do something for you?
SPEAKER_03:Not really. No. I mean, yeah, it does.
SPEAKER_00:There's a couple of extra things that it adds, but it's like a step above a Fortnite skin for the code.
SPEAKER_03:Arcade mode's a way to go. I wanted to- I'm glad we played story just to see what it was. But arcade mode is is where it is. It's like 16 levels. The last three are pretty tough.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, you beat it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so we played on chill.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm. Is that the middle?
SPEAKER_03:No, it's the easiest.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, what's the middle?
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And what's the hard?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't even know. I didn't try it. Ultimate pizza. Garley, I think it's called Barley, maybe. Ultimate pizza. Yeah. Um, I very much liked it. I enjoyed it. It's not the it's I didn't like it as much as Streets of Rage 4. I felt like there was a bit more replay value. I could have sat there and played it for two more hours though, if you were like loving it.
SPEAKER_04:No.
SPEAKER_03:But I could feel you and Clark just playing it with Caroline.
SPEAKER_00:Detaching.
SPEAKER_03:Playing with Caroline, I felt like like you had to come up here like, okay, what's the story? Are you guys going to bed or what? Because it was like 11 o'clock. I was like, holy crap, we've been playing for because she's just we're both just kind of zoning out. It's a perfect mindless game where you just beat the crap out of people. You can kind of get in the zone, and then see, I can't get in.
SPEAKER_00:That's not a mindless task for me. I got you. I made how many grilled cheeses yesterday? I grilled cheeses for 30 minutes and it was like no time at all. I was like, I could continue to grill cheese. I could do a job like this, I think.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I love beat-em-ups.
SPEAKER_00:Like it soothed my brain to butter bread, put it on there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, I get it. Well, this is, I mean, this is this is this I'm I'm buttering my bread when I'm playing this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we just duh we like different bread.
SPEAKER_03:I also I also uh I haven't played a video game in like I don't know how long. So that was another thing. It was like the first video game I played, other than 2K26 with Clark.
SPEAKER_00:Which is great, but he's it's not like a side scrolling beat em up though. No. Street ball.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, street ball usually play street ball. We'll talk about we'll have an episode on that one.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, you should invite Clark in for that one.
SPEAKER_03:Um what uh so do you think you'll ever play it again?
SPEAKER_00:So I could see it being fun, like if you if I was if I was Clark and I had a bunch of friends over, I'd be like, bring your controllers, we're gonna play six. Yeah. Like, or if you know you ever like sometimes our church would do those like uh video game nights. That would be a fun one for something like that. But it wasn't it's not something I would like go up and play by myself.
SPEAKER_03:Well, a single player wouldn't be all that great. Uh I think you I think this is a the fun is in the party. Yeah, you get two or three people is is ideal just because you could see everything that's going on the screen. You can kind of really develop your strategy and everything. Um although a lot of people didn't seem to have a problem. There was always like one guy that was just killing every just murdering everything. I love the dynamics of like when you're playing with with more than a few people, and you can like in the other games, it was like, who's gonna get the pizza? Yeah, unless it's April from this freaking person who just gets all of them.
SPEAKER_00:Either an eight-year-old or an angry mom.
SPEAKER_03:Any person who's not a total jackass or you know, just kind of knows what's up, courteous. We'll just say that. Any reasonable human playing this reasonable amphibian shredder is going to uh you know allow someone else to have it. But in this you don't have to worry about it. You can share, you can high five and give your inner give your health to people. So you can high five and give somebody two hit points. When they get knocked out, you can feed them pizza to bring them back.
SPEAKER_00:What was Uncle Phil's wife's name?
SPEAKER_03:Ant Viv.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's what it is. Yeah. Did you say that?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I said let's talk about Ant Viv's revenge. She's gonna come back and remember two actresses.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't catch I didn't catch the reference to Fresh Prince. Listen to this and listen to but you don't listen to. Did you say anything about Fresh Prince? No, okay.
SPEAKER_03:In your defense, I I pulled you right into my brain.
SPEAKER_00:What else is gonna the audience is like, yeah, we know.
SPEAKER_03:So I love the fan service in this. I I don't think there was a bad level. I thought they were all great.
SPEAKER_00:Um yeah, see, they're all the same to me. I like the ones on the the hoverboard things, those were fun.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, those were a lot of fun. Yeah, they had those in the original too. I liked how you couldn't fly off.
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, unless you were like getting hurt killed or whatever. But I also liked how you couldn't hurt each other, which I guess is an original thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the fr Friendly fire kind of thing. Because once have that, and it sucks when it I always turn it off whenever possible. Unless it can get kind of fun. There was a game called Golden Axe for Genesis, it was a beat 'em up, and you could beat the crap out of each other. It kind of gets it gets to be fun and extreme. Like you could, I'm sure friendships ended over that in the 90s.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. As they should have.
SPEAKER_03:As they should. Freaking. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:That was back in the good old days.
SPEAKER_03:Did you recognize any of the bosses? Any of the characters? Other than Rat King?
SPEAKER_00:I have a Rat King shirt, everybody.
SPEAKER_03:I always call Leslie the Ratchet.
SPEAKER_00:This is just a shirt that Rob makes it. This is it, it's like a really nice, yeah. If you want to see it on the if you're on the YouTubes. If it it's actually like a free people shirt. It's a hand-me-down from Rob's sister. And it's a really nice shirt, and I love it. And when I was wearing it for the first time, Rob said it looked like the Rat King.
SPEAKER_03:And then she didn't know that it was, so we had to play this game.
SPEAKER_00:Now I do. I remember the Rhino, Bebop Deluxe.
SPEAKER_03:Bebop Deluxe. Good good good band drop there. But no. Uh just Bebop and Rock Rocksteady was the rhino. Bebop deluxe is a great band.
SPEAKER_00:What was Bebop?
SPEAKER_03:Uh Bebop was a like a warthog.
SPEAKER_00:Was he in the show? Yeah. Game?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He yeah, Bebop and Rocksteady.
SPEAKER_00:What were those little robot things called?
SPEAKER_03:Oh man.
SPEAKER_00:I don't like little dro droids.
SPEAKER_03:If you if somebody, if a Ninja Turtles fan was here, they could I would recognize it, but I don't think I'm gonna get it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Who was Casey Jones?
SPEAKER_03:Casey Jones was Wasn't he like a baseball player?
SPEAKER_00:I think my grandma used to have a poem about him.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah. He's also driving that train, High on Cocaine. Oh yeah. Um but Casey Jones, yeah, those that's when he struck out. You sat there and you watched the two pitches go by. Yeah. Yeah. And the Ninja Turtles.
SPEAKER_00:My grandma's poem was a little bit more um not PG-rated.
SPEAKER_03:Casey Jones. Oh yeah, one of her dirty limits. She sits there and she would clap and just say terrible things. Like just so excited to say them. Leslie's grandma was amazing. So was her grandpa. Um hilarious people. Yeah. With hearts of gold. We'll talk about them some other time. Um Casey Jones was a uh friend of the turtles.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Kind of an antihero a little bit. Almost like almost like a kid's version of a punisher, sort of.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, kids need their own versions of anti-hero.
SPEAKER_03:He used sporting goods. He always had hockey sticks, baseball, barrier.
SPEAKER_00:I did enjoy hitting people with golf clubs when I was playing.
SPEAKER_03:That mask. He was played by the actor who I'm not recall, but in the T in the movie that came out. Did you ever watch that? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like puppets, sort of? He was played. Live action?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, sorta. They're like these turtle suits. But in the in the they were they were like teen the foot soldiers were teenagers. In this, they're robots. So you can just beat the crap out of them. You can't really you can't just toss teenage bodies in the air for with golf clubs.
SPEAKER_00:Toss them up and nail them to golf clubs.
SPEAKER_03:You can't, I guess, but I wouldn't. The original Turtles was like it was a comic, and it was uh I think it was pretty adult, if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know what the what were we talking about? White guitars.
SPEAKER_00:I did like uh I did really like watching the original on the YouTube.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then we went down a real rabbit hole.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, we watched the Nintendo.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't like the cartoon that much when it was on.
SPEAKER_03:I liked it. I I watched it pretty frequently. I didn't get into the I kinda I don't know if I aged out of it or what, but I kinda I watched probably the first two seasons. I was all about it. And then How old were we when there were all these side characters once the frogs and the neutrinos and stuff were introduced? Like I was watching it, but I think I was in the middle of a move when that came out.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you probably were.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Also a lot of like collectibles, like you know, like action figures. Oh, remember was the Pizza. Like the blimp? The blimp was in it?
SPEAKER_00:Was Pizza Hut did it have some probably merch?
SPEAKER_03:It might have.
SPEAKER_00:Gosh, I think they did. I think you could get I don't even know. A face. I just remember like a face.
SPEAKER_03:A bust, a crank, so to speak. Was it crang?
SPEAKER_00:No, it was like a turtle.
SPEAKER_03:Do you think Krang was which came first? Turtle Krang or Quado?
SPEAKER_00:I don't even know who Krang is.
SPEAKER_03:Krang? Krang's that little pink uh guy that you did you you were chasing around his body, Mandroid, the whole time.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Mandroid! But the but Krang was a little pink brain looking thing that had I don't know what year uh Total Recall came out, so um And we can't find out in the next episode Okay next episode alright Krang or Quado which one was first and then and then we'll have to do a death battle Krang versus Quaddo oh well I think Quaddo has some psychic abilities yeah but that's for next episode but he got shot pretty quick crang no crang would absolutely destroy Quaddo now if Quaddo could team up with Quaid we maybe we may have some that is either Dennis Quaid Total Recennis Quaid have a brother called Steven Randy Quaid Randy Quaid Randy Quaid what we've Randy Quaid has been on we've mentioned him before he was we were talking about squatters poor Randy Quaid Poor me because I don't remember that I do I remember every conversation I've ever had about Randy Quaid That's good well just say you have a so you have a time check we have about less than 20 minutes okay or a 20 minutes well I mean I I would I like I loved I liked it it was a fun it was a fun activity for us with our kids with each other I liked watching the YouTubes that took us down a little rabbit hole we watched some Battletoads gameplay what else we watched Super Mario World What else um we watch the Well I I wanted to go back and say can you see are you do are you surprised at all that I like this game?
SPEAKER_03:No would you ever be interested in playing another beat'em up with me?
SPEAKER_00:I would do it for the more than likely it won't be as good.
SPEAKER_03:You do it for the podcast?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah in like six months.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, okay, so not really it's sort of like how I don't like to eat leftovers. Would you consider playing another kind of video game? Like we talked about playing Portal together or Disco Elysium.
SPEAKER_00:I like video games.
SPEAKER_03:You like Hogwarts Legacy?
SPEAKER_00:I did.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That was all about the Harry Potter stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Still though, it was it got you in. If you were a Turtles fan, you'd be all about this game. True, totally if you're a Turtles fan, you and you haven't played this game, you absolutely need to. It really gets it right.
SPEAKER_00:I like a game where I can walk around and do what I want.
SPEAKER_03:You like uh open world games?
SPEAKER_00:Obviously, you cannot do that in a side scrolling beat em up.
SPEAKER_03:So I normally prefer open world games as well. In this case though, I like it.
SPEAKER_00:It's just a totally different thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's on rails, basically. It's on it's super super linear, which you know I normally don't love. It's surprising that I but it just gives me what I want, and it's not it's it's it's great.
SPEAKER_00:Scratching a an itch. Yes, a nostalgia itch.
SPEAKER_03:You know what else scratched a nostalgia itch.
SPEAKER_00:What the highwayman's music video?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything else I want to talk about Shorty's revenge. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. It was fun. I had a great time.
SPEAKER_03:Good. I'm glad you did that. I appreciate you trying it out. You're good sports.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you. Tell your friends. Tell the audience.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like there was something else I wanted to mention there, but if it comes back to you, you can put it in consumption corner next week. That's true. Captain Bucky O here. Osagi reminded me of him. Uh do you do you ever see that show?
SPEAKER_00:Nope.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, forget it. I think they might have made a beat him up with that, too. Hey, let's talk about the highwaymen.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, let's talk about him. Supergroup.
SPEAKER_03:Supergroup. The highwaymen.
SPEAKER_00:And how many of them are living too?
SPEAKER_03:Well, shoot. Oh no.
SPEAKER_00:Three?
SPEAKER_03:No, I think one.
SPEAKER_00:Just Willie? Wait, wait, wait. Chris Christopherson here.
SPEAKER_03:Is he wait wait? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Chris Christopherson, Wayland Jennings.
SPEAKER_03:I'll look him up real quick.
SPEAKER_00:Johnny.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Christopherson died a year ago.
SPEAKER_00:And Waylon Jennings is dead. I think Waylon Jennings is dead. And Johnny Cash is just a little bit. So just Willie.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Jennings died in 2002.
SPEAKER_00:Willie died in or Cash died in what? Like 10, 11, 12, something like that.
SPEAKER_03:He died in L N O P.
SPEAKER_00:6'7.
SPEAKER_03:Johnny Cash died. That sounds about right. 2012, maybe 2003. Who are we? Johnny Cash? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Died in three?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Wow.
SPEAKER_00:Wow. We're old, man. I'm still learning, I'm learning a new Johnny Cash song right now.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_00:Frankie, Frankie's Man Johnny.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, you were telling me about that. And then I asked about Sam Cook, Frankie and Johnny. Yeah. Which is probably a good one.
SPEAKER_00:I think this is like a vert, like it's uh another type of that type of song.
SPEAKER_03:Basically Johnny is a was that like a like a common like is it like a Jane Doe kind of? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:I wasn't there.
SPEAKER_03:Frankie and Johnny, like a uh what am I looking for?
SPEAKER_00:Like a like a couple, like a famous couple's names.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, like uh anyways. Um maybe a maybe an archetype. Yeah. Like like a highwayman and uh and a dam builder and uh and a sailor and a starship trooper.
SPEAKER_00:Slash jet airliner.
SPEAKER_03:You just want to go right into the video.
SPEAKER_00:Let's talk about the video first. Okay. The YouTube music video. Which I guess what would would it have been on uh what channel would that have been on?
SPEAKER_03:CMT wasn't around then.
SPEAKER_00:What year did that song come out? 80s? 85 Well who was what was it? I have no idea.
SPEAKER_02:No, V no 85.
SPEAKER_03:Was MTV I don't know what they would have done with with that because they they've made music videos for a long time.
SPEAKER_00:Well, maybe it was made after.
SPEAKER_03:I'm trying to think. So Video Kill the Radio Star was the first but that wasn't the first music video, it was the first MTV video. That was 80 I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Well anyway, so this music video for this song. So the song, honestly, it's a fun and great song, but it's also there's not a lot. Like it's just four verses, there's no chorus, there's just you know, it's a pretty straightforward song. And so each verse is about a different character, and in the music video, they just have like the Olin Mills floating head of whoever is singing that verse is just singing it, and then they're just playing out the scene. But my favorite part is like at the beginning when they say that he got hung, yeah, the bastard's army in the spring of whatever they show that like a solid two lyrics before they get to the part where he's being hung. And it's like, well, spoil what's coming next.
SPEAKER_03:After he really roughs that woman up.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And he steals all of her stuff, he's kind of a jerk. And then the rest of them are like heroes.
SPEAKER_03:Like just like good blue-collar workers. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Do you consider a starship? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, I wouldn't consider that pilot a blue-collar weapon. I think you have to do a lot of um academic.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you some some kind of thing. Or or a fighter jet in this case. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So then what wait wait, what's the second one? Uh Sailor?
SPEAKER_03:Sailor.
SPEAKER_00:That one was just some imagery of some Oh wait. No, that was something different.
SPEAKER_03:The dam builder was probably my favorite.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but what was I what were we watching at home community when they were taking that sailing class in the parking lot? Anyway, that was funny. Um and then the dam builder. So the dam builder already built. The dam is complete. It's a Hoover Dam, right? It looks like it.
SPEAKER_01:It looked like it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And the in in the song, he dies by falling into wet concrete, implying that the dam, he's a dam builder, and so the dam is not built, not yet built. So when he falls and gets stuck in the concrete, then his body's in there entombed forever. But in the video, he just falls off the edge of the complete dam and he hits it halfway down, doesn't he?
SPEAKER_03:It was like the fugitive. It was like it was like the fugitive where the Timothy Eric father and son where throws uh never mind.
SPEAKER_00:Well, he just looks like uh a tourist who fell off the edge. Doesn't look like he was working on it or anything like that. No wet concrete below.
SPEAKER_03:No. Wayland Jin, that verse is that verse is my favorite. I hope you appreciate that I gave it to you.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, well, we could have switched. No. The only reason I started is because that's how they start. They they they pitched, they go from highest pitched voices to lowest in that song. It's kind of clever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Especially considering it was written by for one guy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, then Johnny Cash sings his verse about flying a starship, but in the music video, it's a fighter jet. Fighter jet. Yeah, it's just it doesn't leave the atmosphere.
SPEAKER_03:When I first saw a video, which was like a week ago, I was like really looking forward to seeing what they were gonna do with a starship guy in 1985. I thought it was gonna be like uh Star Wars looking. Yeah, or like Starman, like John Carpenter or uh wait, did he do that movie? Yeah, yeah. Okay, anyways. Um, star freaking fighter jet. I was kind of disappointed. Nothing like that video. It was terrible. It was terrible.
SPEAKER_00:That's what makes me wonder if it's worth checking out if they just it's bad. If they just did put it, somebody just put it together.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, somebody definitely put it together.
SPEAKER_00:Well, but I mean like without really like they didn't get like a for like a seventh grade.
SPEAKER_03:Mr. Jennings, what do you think about this? Are you cool with uh the way you die?
SPEAKER_00:Like it almost looks like a seventh grader puts it together put it together and just made it on YouTube and then just like put their singing heads on the top. I could totally make this.
SPEAKER_03:So that's the music video if you want to know about that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And we and and then we told you a little bit about the story of the song.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So it was made by I believe it was written by Jimmy Webb, which I didn't know. This is one of the reasons I love doing this podcast. Because you know stuff, because I find out stuff that I had no idea. I didn't know Glenn Campbell had a version of this before six years before.
SPEAKER_00:Or Glenn Campbell. He was probably like, you jerks.
SPEAKER_03:So I prefer the Glenn Campbell. The Glenn Campbell version. Um one of the one of the reasons I'm just enamored by his finger picking. I think he's wonderful. Isn't that weird? Yeah, strange. Well, but one of the reasons, of course, why I like I like the uh the the you know, the one everybody knows more, the one we're talking about, is because uh oh what's his name? Um Reggie Young? I wrote his name down. Reggie Jackson? The guitar player on this, the one that's playing the Reggie Young. But it is Marty Stewart's another one on there, but I think Reggie Young's the one that's doing all the walking around real ethereal kind of like arpeggiating kind of. Yeah, I had to play, I wanted to play the this. I I added it, I I didn't do anything else in the song that's the way it's actually played, but I had to actually have the that part, like I love that I I love that. I love all that guy's licks are awesome. And they're not like the most technical things in the world, but I did try to mimic a couple of them, I just couldn't quite get it right with the acoustic.
SPEAKER_00:So I well, and also a lot of times when you're singing.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah. Divided your divided attention. I will I had no idea how difficult all that is. Singing, playing, and hitting fills at all at once. It's really hard, it's really hard.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes that's one of the things that we I don't think I learned that in school from anybody, but my first boss, well, not my first boss, my best boss, Kenna, she taught me if you just learn one lick from a song and just recreate it, it doesn't matter what you do the rest of the times. People like, oh my gosh, she knows how to play that song exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, that's a really good advice. It is so I do that. That's totally true. That's all I do at church. It's like, does this song have any like any like actual riff that people would, you know, and then I'd learn that and everything else I just gotta make up.
SPEAKER_00:Uh those are CCR has a ton of really easy licks and like bass line walks that you can just throw in, and it's just oh, you know exactly how to ride.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. The Beatles do too. Totally. I was just thinking of them. Um, because well, first I was thinking about traveling wheelbury's because Harrison's a good riff maker. Actually, speaking of riff makers, I I try to get a little bit of like a in the beginning, like a little bit of a Jimmy Page kind of that because because you you told me to start off because it starts off in a B minor. And so, but I was you I think you said could you start off with Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:But I decided to just turn that whole riff because it starts off with like uh boom no bum no and I just couldn't get it to sound right. It didn't I think anyways.
SPEAKER_00:It sounds real hollow on the recording, yeah. Empty.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I love it on the recording. Yeah, I don't know what they they're doing there, but they have other instruments they make it full. This would just be me playing a single.
SPEAKER_00:I just meant the feeling it evoked when I hear the recording is hollow.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, absolutely. Sad. I love that. It's a I love that desolate kind of the vibe of this song is open-ended. Great. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Um, but I tried to do it like almost like I mean they did a great job of the music matching what the words are this like kind of like a uh bang. Um anyways, he's got a bunch of riffs that start like that. So that's how I started it. That's how we started it. Uh no, I love the vibe of this song. It's got a it it feels so the reason I listened to November Rain is being. For the second half of it? Yeah, I love the second half of November Rain.
SPEAKER_00:Do you sing that little bit of that? I forget how it goes. Of this the second half when it changes. I can't remember how it sounds. Jeez. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03:There's so there's several parts to that song. It's a nine-minute song. Uh-huh. Or when he's done singing though, and then they go into just like it's when Slash walks out of the church and then goes in the middle. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think they were in on that film, filming of that music video.
unknown:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, there he has like so basically Slash's first guitar solo and then on is my favorite part of this. Right. Um it reminds me of that. It reminds me of there's this I can't tell you how much time I spent trying to find trying to find a cop full version of Ricky Tiki Tavvy, which I know is super random. It was like a 70s, 80s cartoon, like short cartoon movie. And I swear there was something in that soundtrack that reminds me of the highway man. And I I'm going back from when I first would have seen that movie, which has been like five years old. But it's just something is like I just my brain was just like ricky tikky taffy. This is real. But anyway, somehow. No idea, no clue. I never never got an answer.
SPEAKER_00:Um It's weird how you know what I would how your brain does things. Yours particularly.
SPEAKER_03:Who's your favorite uh verse? Well who's your favorite singer, who's your favorite all just body of work uh of the four of those guys.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not as familiar with the middle two.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I I I'm least familiar with Whaling Jennings.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, me too, actually.
SPEAKER_00:Uh I I love Willie Nelson. He's my favorite. Johnny Cash is up there, but a lot of his songs are ridiculously dumb. Which which puts him lower on the on the pole for me. And then Chris Christofferson is he he I can't get him. I always want to mix him up with Kenny Rogers, and I hate Kenny Rogers.
SPEAKER_03:Kenny Rogers kind of went for a little, I don't know when the gambler came out, but he's got a little bit of a role-playing sort of they're all kind of just assuming these characters. Yeah, you know?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like Wichita Linemen, Lloyd Campbell. Um, but that song's actually pretty good.
SPEAKER_00:That's a good song.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So yeah, but Willie Nelson's my favorite, followed by Johnny Cash. I'd like to listen, I like to listen to both of them sing. I think Johnny Cash, I wouldn't say either one of them have great voices, though.
SPEAKER_03:They also do this thing. I I actually like it. I used to drive me nuts. I don't listen to a lot of country, even the old good stuff. But so I got I got a lot of a lot to draw from there. It's a big, big, uh, big ocean for me. But one thing I'm noticing, especially since I listen to like three different versions of the of them doing it, was they all kind of mess with the timing of when they sing the first one.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and we talked about that with all Johnny Cash songs.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's like they're just constantly looking at the colour. I tried to listen to his stuff to get it right for myself because I do it at work a lot. And I try to listen to the bass line because they're always doing a dung, dung, dung, yeah, dung. And then he'll just sing whatever he wants, and then the bass line adjusts to what he's singing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's like Harry Connick Jr. Works. What's up with that? I don't know. Is that a thing? Is that an artistic thing?
SPEAKER_00:I have no idea.
SPEAKER_03:We should look and see if there's ever been some but Willie Nelson does the same thing in the uh in the when we're watching the live version. They all kind of did.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they all did.
SPEAKER_03:And it may be because there's like we've done this song up during the side.
SPEAKER_00:Rob and I took some creative license and decided to make it the same every time so that we didn't go crazy. Yeah. Plus now I we played this song together what? Four times.
SPEAKER_03:Four times, including the two takes we did. Yeah. We only do two takes. for our covers. Yeah. A lot of times we just we just do it in one and and quit. So we we I you know I practiced this song several times over the week and then we got together and we and we played it. But uh but yeah the timing was a big that was a big issue.
SPEAKER_00:That's interesting. Do you know what the key is?
SPEAKER_03:A B minor I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_00:And then what's that the relative minor of is is D the answer?
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Yeah because I know when I'm playing if I'm doing like a D major scale I'm gonna be doing a B minor would also work etc etc. And this is a song where you could just They have the same key signature.
SPEAKER_00:That's what it means.
SPEAKER_03:There's nothing super goofy going on in this one. Like it's pretty much what A ole in through and through minor B minor.
SPEAKER_00:It's not well it ends on a D.
SPEAKER_03:It ends in the major it ends in the Oh yeah okay that's a good point. Plus the bridge does the same thing. Yeah it's a kind of a simple song but it's uh you already mentioned that but it's interesting music though. That that dude that yeah it is and I I love the again I love the the whole the vibe of it it just gives me it it makes me feel it feels very 85 but not in if somebody would have said 85 country I'd be like no but it feels 85 like it's got like I swear like there was a bunch of like weird Nick Jr songs that would have like that kind of 80s music. It's almost like it almost like a world like there's this there's this world every now I listen to like Peruvian flute music and there's this band called Cusco that has it's got a lot of songs that sound like that. And I I love it.
SPEAKER_00:When I'm in the mood to listen to it it just well wasn't there some wasn't there some world music influence in the 80s um well there was like Graceland you're talking about Paul Simon we like we did uh with like African I'm just thinking like in general like wasn't like wasn't America like oh yeah the rest of the world you mean like other than the UK yeah yeah yeah probably I'm sure we could sit there and I think there was but I don't I mean there was tons of European other European groups and yeah you're right. I'm thinking more like African and and Latin American but I'd say there's probably a bit of a explosion then.
SPEAKER_03:Um 70s probably more for Latin but I'm just talking out of my butt. Yeah. Um do you have uh who else would you like to see uh cover this one?
SPEAKER_00:I don't have a ready answer give me a second you say who you have.
SPEAKER_03:I got a couple that I thought of okay one so let's grab slash let's basically take Velvet Revolver okay who had Scott Wyland and Guns and Roses essentially yeah yeah because that's where I said let's get to get rid of Axel. Yeah he's I don't hate Axel I just I like to I love Axel for about 20 to 30 songs. After that nah I'm good generous yeah no I've I've I've listened to a lot of Guns N'Roses over the years. I I I can get very down with them but I thought you'd have like four four guys maybe who've passed away so maybe like grunge guys. So I'm thinking like we got Velvet Revolver so Scott Wyland set yeah I didn't think about Kirk Cobain of course I was thinking like um Blaine Staley we talked about Alison Chains the other week oh okay um maybe Shannon Hoon I wouldn't know if I call him grunge but Blind Melon oh I can yeah yeah yeah um and who else I put in there I don't know I don't know but it's good one of those guys but what I would I would like I'd like to have slash playing all the Reggie Young parts and just do his thing. Uh-huh because he's it's just he's very good at playing the same way that this guy plays it's kind of like it's almost honestly it's kind of simple but it's just done so so well I love I love listening to Slash play. Who else?
SPEAKER_00:Gosh I forgot to think about that question. Am I in trouble? You're in a little bit of trouble I'm not in trouble at all.
SPEAKER_03:Um Chris Cornell we're gonna throw him in oh yeah I love Chris Cornell.
SPEAKER_00:Okay I'm I'm happy I gave two contributions to your idea well I was thinking uh are you familiar with the Mike Tyson SpongeBob music? From the video game?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah I don't know it's like uh hang on a second I'm I'm not it I'm not gonna get copyright trouble because I can't really play it but it's like you're not gonna be in trouble at all oh so it's like it's like it's like anyways it sounds a lot like it reminds me of this a lot you can play it yeah yeah and I so I would like to hear Kenji Yamamoto whoever did that song um play like a digital like 8-bit version of it.
SPEAKER_00:What's your boyfriend's name from last week?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah I'll hear I'll listen to hear him play anything um you gotta I I suppose you have a don't have a B side then huh if you didn't tell me your B side I can come up with one well Wichiton lineman's kind of like a easy answer. Yeah because you have the whole I was also thinking gangster the killer and the dope dealer with West Side Connection.
SPEAKER_00:Oh I love that song.
SPEAKER_03:Because I felt these guys were like somewhere somewhere between like the village people and then the highwaymen and West Side Connection which is Ice Cube dub sea and back 10.
SPEAKER_00:It's a real journey.
SPEAKER_03:But they're they're all playing these they all have these personas kind of like gorillas or what or okay how about this okay I got one that's my alarm but sorry but we'll get we're almost done we have to be we're real close.
SPEAKER_00:Well we have to be listen how's this okay Alabama oh my gosh I love it up move it on down the line is that what that song is called yes because it's country you got you got the work a 48 hour wheel worker you got the who else who else they mention uh Detroit auto worker hello some corn I don't know yeah some kind of farmer of some type maybe it's a homage to the blue collar worker. Yeah so there you go that's the B side like the highwayman like a highwayman being a blue collar worker. Yeah it just he just does not fit I also really would I think I think the the threat is the traveling okay oh although but what about the damn builder? I guess he doesn't travel.
SPEAKER_03:I mean he g I'm sure he's you know it had to take a bus to get there. Jimmy Webb is that um I think he did Widget alignment too. I think he was a I don't know a lot of Jimmy I'm gonna be getting into some Jimmy Webb some Reggie Young some Marty Stewart. Oh wow yeah I'm gonna be getting in a little Glenn Cam. I thought Daft Punk Digital Love you mentioned that so first of all that song kind of has the same sort of vibe to it okay and and parts of it.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not sure I know it off the top of my head.
SPEAKER_03:It does it's got um I love that song. I don't know why I love that song so much I do. But the video it's like I swear it's been forever since I've seen it but it's like a dude in space and I kind of wanted to see that go I could I'd like to almost hear Daft Punk do a version of this song but have that same animator do maybe take the animator from Scavenger's Rain and have him do something like that.
SPEAKER_00:Well we ought to talk about that sometime yeah that show was great uh I you got me stuck on Chris Cornell singing that song and that would be like the most angsty and ridiculous version Highway man ever he sang it.
SPEAKER_03:What which one would he be? He would just do it them all do do you want to hear yeah he he'd play if he did it alone that's what I'm saying. Did you like Soundgarden? Did you listen to Soundgarden?
SPEAKER_00:I didn't I didn't really discover Chris Cornell until about James Bond I know I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:That's okay. Hey why not? That's fine. It's just funny that it's and then I fell in love with his voice and then he died. I didn't know Glenn Campbell did Highwaymen until this week.
SPEAKER_00:It's a little different.
SPEAKER_03:It's not that different though I'm sure the country fans are just like you idiot um soundtrack I kind of went a little crazy with the soundtrack. Okay. So we if you can't if you can't tell we do these categories right sometimes we do the matter Leslie I'm firing myself settle down it's fine. Here's what I'd like okay I would like for a quantum leap I'd like them to do a mini series perfect how can I top that where they live those lives out those lives.
SPEAKER_00:I can't top that and Al is just like kind of interest in various costumes it's his little gadget. And then they just have different different versions of this during the highwayman he has to dress up like a barmaid in like a saloon outfit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah he looks in the mirror and it's like he's like a woman Willie Nelson's behind him just like groping him stealing those bobbles. I thought you just smoked weed dude what are you doing? It's a secret is bob yeah what it have you ever used that word in a sentence bobbles?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah like Christmas time if I'm talking about tree decorations.
SPEAKER_03:Tree bobbles?
SPEAKER_00:Tree bobble yeah Christmas bits and bobs bits and bobs bits oh bits and spobs took time do we need do we need to stop it's okay how about uh I I talked about supergroups what do you think about uh what is what supergroups have we talked have we we've left the ladies out of this conversation are there any lady supergroups is there a highway women was I having this conversation with somebody at some point we weren't with me gosh it was doesn't fit the melody you'd have to come up with a new rhythm the rhythm I mean I was the traveling world berries I will definitely take them over the highway men any day have you listened to much Highwaymen no only that song oh they got they got a couple other good ones they're they're all kind of like this though they're all kind of does it like sound like they all f recorded their own at a at their own time it does have a bit of that feeling because of their head because they're not doing anything together or now we did watch them do it live together but it still felt very performative like a this whole thing type well this whole thing was then just wanting to have fun.
SPEAKER_03:Like Chris Chris Christofferson I've read some quote where he's just like we're just doing this for because we like hanging around each other and this is if as soon as it's not fun anymore we're done.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah we'll we'll start dying.
SPEAKER_03:So it's pretty cool. I mean they're all legends in their all right yeah we're all gonna die together sometimes I hear Rob that I said something funny by laughing and then he goes back and remembers what I just said it's true it works oh my all right you want to wrap it up I ha check out our cover on uh YouTube uh hopefully I recorded it right mixing mixing it with this four tracks instead of one um and uh yeah watch us on YouTube like subscribe subscribe all needs one like don't need to comment though you don't need to comment no unless it's something nice real nice something super nice lovey dovey all right guys thanks a lot have another wonderful week we'll see you again soon we're gonna high five for love goodbye I gotta can you cut up chicken yeah um but I hope this will just be like half an hour