The Audience Won't Like It
Married hosts Rob and Leslie Shoecraft invite you into their closet (literally) for a podcast that’s equal parts nostalgia trip, music nerd-out, and absurd banter. Born from a joke about how the audience probably won’t like it, the show leans into that spirit—riffing on everything from Star Trek episodes and Kitty Wells deep cuts, to feet, crockpots, and cover songs that live on YouTube thanks to copyright.
Each week, the conversation drifts like two people killing time in line for a concert—unexpected, hilarious, and sometimes strangely profound. Future episodes explore growing up in the 80s and 90s, The Dollhouse Murders, “5 of 5” and borrowed chords in music theory, bodybuilding meal prep, Wu-Tang Clan, Gordon Lightfoot, Alan Thicke, Herb Alpert, and whatever other rabbit holes pop up along the way.
If you like side tangents, forgotten pop culture, and covers of songs your mom might love, you might just find that you do like it after all.
The Audience Won't Like It
Ep 12 - Baby, It’s Cold Outside; Ghost, Dreams & Aliens; Reggie Young
Two of us trade fast picks on music and movies, then veer into ghost stories, dreams, and whether reality is bigger than it looks. We close with a lively defense-and-craft breakdown of Baby It’s Cold Outside and why performance and context matter.
• consumption corner from tea to The Roots and George Cables
• ambient study pick from Mehdi’s Instrumental Imagery, Volume Three
• session legend Reggie Young’s fingerprints across classic records
• film talk on The Irishman and There Will Be Blood
• Howl’s Moving Castle book vs film and story priorities
• true crime pick Carmen Family Murders and narrative pull
• seasonal ghost stories, Radio Rental standouts, missing 411
• Bigfoot skepticism, national parks, and cave systems
• aliens vs interdimensional ideas with faith and physics
• dreams as intuition, precognition, and cognitive edges
• conspiracies, bureaucracy, and why secrecy is hard
• music craft of Baby It’s Cold Outside and shifting language
• favorite versions, dream covers, and B-side ideas
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Alright, here's the intro. Let's talk about what we talked about.
SPEAKER_03:Welcome back.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, you ready? What did we talk about? Consumption corner.
SPEAKER_03:Films?
SPEAKER_00:T. We didn't really. Not so much.
SPEAKER_03:Let's just check this lot right off the list.
SPEAKER_00:Alright. We talked about uh Do you want more? The Roots album.
SPEAKER_03:Do you want more? You're really gonna recap all of this stuff? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not gonna recap. Alright, well let's go. We talked about it. Okay. Right? And then we talked about George Cables. Cable Vision. 1980.
SPEAKER_03:Cables Vision.
SPEAKER_00:Cables Vision. My bad. You were paying attention.
SPEAKER_03:I know. I try. I'm trying.
SPEAKER_00:Uh we talked about uh instrumental imagery volume three by Medi and Iranian Electronic Ambiance Master.
SPEAKER_03:We should do this like a quiz, like where if I can see if I can remember anything you said. Reggie Young.
SPEAKER_00:We talked about Johnny Cash Muppets.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, we're gonna go. I've watched the Ghostwriters in the Sky.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. It could count him, but I think we opened with that wrong. Sorry. Talked about uh Forever Young, a Reggie Young album from 2017.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that makes a lot more sense now. I was thinking Reggie Jackson the whole time. You guys are in for real treat coming up.
SPEAKER_00:He's like one of like probably what three baseball players you can name. Somehow he's good.
SPEAKER_03:Mark McGuire.
SPEAKER_00:Somehow he's good. Babe Ruth. There you go. And Reggie Jackson and Reggie Young, if you will. Talked about The Irishman, the movie. Scorsese. We talked about There Will Be Blood. There will be. The movie. Paul Thomas Anderson. We talked about How's Moving Castle, the movie.
SPEAKER_03:And a little about the book. And a little bit about the book. Again.
SPEAKER_00:And then we talked about uh there was something else. You there was a show.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, the Netflix documentary Carmen Family Murders.
SPEAKER_00:Carmen Family Murders. It was cute. It wasn't cute. It wasn't. It was great though. It was pretty cool. Yeah. It was neat. And then we talked about like spooky stuff. So they said they wanted to hear something spooky.
SPEAKER_03:We talked about uh dreams and there was some uh we touched on some aliens aliens and conspiracy theories and yeah. We just kind of took some spins around scary stories and we shared a few of our own little experiences and opinions and whatnot. Opinions and Rob got a little religious. He's very good at that.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_03:But not in a way that you are going to imagine.
SPEAKER_00:Not in a way. You won't imagine how religious I get. Okay. And then we talked about uh baby it's cold outside. Yeah. Which we performed.
SPEAKER_03:We did.
SPEAKER_00:If you're watching this on YouTube, let's stick around for the end. That concludes our intro. This is our first intro.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah. One thing we didn't really put up though at front though, we ought to remember is we we are like getting ready for a big concert. And we have a lot of people come into the concert.
SPEAKER_00:Most of them are dead.
SPEAKER_03:Most of them are dead. Yeah. Or dying. Or will be dead soon.
SPEAKER_00:Do we have active pe the people who are actively dying?
SPEAKER_03:Well, we're all actively dying. Just ask my dad.
SPEAKER_00:That's your point.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. All right. Nice. Nice. Enjoy the show. Peace out. Hmm. I'm going to pick out a shirt to wear during this. Conveniently, this podcast is being filmed inside my closet, so if I need an extra shirt to put on, I could just get one.
SPEAKER_00:That's convenient. Let's start the song. Oh my gosh, you dropped your phone. I'm gonna do our theme song. Okay. You ready?
SPEAKER_02:I'm ready.
SPEAKER_00:Two married friends in a little room surrounded by clothing. And two microphones actually for they got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips.
SPEAKER_03:Muppet babies.
SPEAKER_00:Just kidding. We're not singing that. We can't sing that. No, but you know what we can talk about.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_00:Since we're just gonna go right to the can to the consumption corner. No, I just wanted to mention uh just wanted to mention something.
SPEAKER_03:What? I want to hear it. Mention it.
SPEAKER_00:Speaking of Muppets, I watched the uh Johnny Cash Muppets.
SPEAKER_03:You did Riders Riders, yeah, Ghost Riders in the sky. How'd you like it?
SPEAKER_00:It's great. Did you think of it'd be? I thought of you. For just a second, and then I mainly thought of Johnny Cash and uh Grover.
SPEAKER_03:Did you think about my patient from Beyond the Grave?
SPEAKER_00:I did. Yeah. She's a good one. I sure did.
SPEAKER_03:Welcome to The Audience Won't Like It, featuring Rob Shoecraft on the mic. Bass male voice.
SPEAKER_00:On the bass male voice.
SPEAKER_03:And Leslie Shoecraft.
SPEAKER_00:On?
SPEAKER_03:On a voice that doesn't sound like I thought it did.
SPEAKER_00:How'd you think you sounded?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. Deeper. I thought I had a lower voice. Um but I don't. I don't have a lower voice.
SPEAKER_00:You thought you had a lower voice?
SPEAKER_03:Like lower than than I seem to hear it when I listen back to our podcast.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Um for those who don't know who aren't watching this on YouTube, I'm I'm looking at my phone right now and I am trying to pull my notes up.
SPEAKER_03:I'll just talk while you do that. Yeah, why don't you go ahead and do it? So this is a podcast where we have, you know, a little bit of music. We have a little cover. If you like music and you want to hear us do some songs, make sure you head over to our YouTube channel. If you're listening to this, the cover is not.
SPEAKER_00:If you're licking that, there'll be balls.
SPEAKER_03:We're not that we're a family-friendly podcast.
SPEAKER_00:That's not anything unfriendly.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Alright. Well, anyway, if you want to see or hear us, you'll have to go to YouTube to see or hear our song. Um, but basically each week we stand in line, quote, in line for a concert, and we see someone different every week. And uh while we're in line, we usually we get to know each other, we end up coming together on a topic, and then we kind of spend, you know, not as much time on that topic as we do on random other consumption corners getting us there.
SPEAKER_00:What's a consumption corner?
SPEAKER_03:Well, it's it's like a thing that you share about how you what you've been doing for the last week. Oh. Yeah, and that's like a good way to break the ice.
SPEAKER_00:Like you talk about like if you're drinking tea.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I'm not today.
SPEAKER_00:You didn't drink any did you drink any tea at all this week?
SPEAKER_03:Uh, this week I did. I drink tea almost every day.
SPEAKER_00:Did you really?
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. There's a caramel bedtime one. I think it's gosh, I don't know the brand names. Yogi is one brand name, but this is maybe I want to say it's like celestial seasonings, but I don't think that's the one. They have fruit-flavored teas that are good.
SPEAKER_00:Celestial seasoning? Is that the br is that a brand name?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's a brand name.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like I've seen it before. They sell it in uh in grocery stores.
SPEAKER_03:You do, you get at Walmart. Everything that I've been talking about is purchasable at your local Walmart.
SPEAKER_00:Would you, if you were standing in line with somebody, would you would you open up with tea? If they were drinking tea.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, if they were drinking tea, I'd be like, ooh, what kind of tea are you drinking?
SPEAKER_00:If what if they were drinking coffee? What if you didn't know? Would you say, is that tea or coffee, or would you say, what are you drinking?
SPEAKER_03:I don't think I'd have to ask. You can tell by smelling.
SPEAKER_00:That's true.
SPEAKER_03:Sometimes you can tell that people are drinking alcohol out of water bottles.
SPEAKER_00:That's true.
SPEAKER_03:Sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes you can.
SPEAKER_03:Not just by the smell of the of the water bottle either. Uh anyway, yeah. So uh so we're just gonna get right into it because Rob's nervous about how much he has to say. He's already gonna get in trouble with me.
SPEAKER_00:That's true.
SPEAKER_03:For talking to you.
SPEAKER_00:I like to have I want to have a four-hour podcast, but you want to have a 30-minute podcast.
SPEAKER_03:No, I want to have a 90 minute podcast.
SPEAKER_00:So we'll meet in the middle at three hours.
SPEAKER_03:I told one of my friends to listen to like we were gonna have a podcast, and she was looking really looking forward to it. And then when it when the first one came out and it was like 70 some minutes, is that how long the first one was?
SPEAKER_00:Something like that.
SPEAKER_03:She was like, whoa. I did not expect it to be that long. I was like, well, buckle up because they're getting longer. It was Renault. Renal.
SPEAKER_00:Hey Renal.
SPEAKER_03:Hey Renault.
SPEAKER_00:Uh okay, anyways, so yeah, well, speaking of long podcasts, we should probably get into this one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, let's do it.
SPEAKER_00:So consumption corner. We already talked about tea. That's out of the way.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't even have anything to say.
SPEAKER_00:Let me check. I got three boxes to check here off of that. Shut up. Okay. Hey, I want to talk open, actually, open up with some corrections. Oh.
SPEAKER_03:Now we have correction corner?
SPEAKER_00:We have correction corner too.
SPEAKER_03:Cool.
SPEAKER_00:Ready?
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:Uh we talked about amphibians. We talked about turtles being amphibians. What?
SPEAKER_03:And you said yes, they were. And then I was further clarifying like, is that because they go in the water?
SPEAKER_00:I thought you said amphibians.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's why.
SPEAKER_03:And you knew that turtles were amphibians and you were so sure about that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:They're not the reptiles.
SPEAKER_00:They are reptiles.
SPEAKER_03:Did you happen to do uh discover the difference? Is it live birth?
SPEAKER_00:Uh no, reptiles.
SPEAKER_03:No, it's amphibians.
SPEAKER_00:They both have eggs. Okay. Now we're gonna now I'm gonna have to correct next week, though.
SPEAKER_03:Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:All right, so there was that. Uh I also want to mention that uh uh Correction number one.
SPEAKER_03:We know turtles are reptiles. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:Quado. Quaddo was actually conceived after Krang. Krang was 87 in the cartoon. I don't I don't know if he's in the comic or not.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Quado was what 90.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, from Total Recall. Cool. Okay. Um I also, you guys didn't see this, but in my notes I wrote Quado with a Q. It's actually spelled with a K.
SPEAKER_03:Spell it.
SPEAKER_00:K Kwado. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:K W.
SPEAKER_00:I still spelled it with uh oh no, it's K-U-A-T-O.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Kuwado. It's Japanese. It I think it is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
unknown:Quaid.
SPEAKER_00:He sounds kind of like an old, like an old wise, like a sage Japanese. Yeah. Like some sort of um also I I did a little bit of a dive on the female supergroups.
SPEAKER_03:Oh wow. Because you asked about Can you throw some out real fast?
SPEAKER_00:Uh no. There aren't any? I mean, there are some kind of, but they're not really. No. There's the high women.
SPEAKER_03:It sounds blame.
SPEAKER_00:But it was based on like the high women.
SPEAKER_03:Right, I got it. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Like Brenda Carlisle was in it. I can't remember anybody else, but there really aren't. It's kind of sad.
SPEAKER_03:Well with your uh as a woman, I can tell you it's not unexpected to hear that we haven't had opportunities to make super groups.
SPEAKER_00:We haven't had opportunities.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Held down by the man. Or held down by the man. Sorry about that.
SPEAKER_00:Um yeah, that's it. That's it. Uh oh, and Elias Codius played Casey Jones in the turn Ninja Turtles movie. Awesome.
SPEAKER_03:I don't even remember that that was something we said incorrectly.
SPEAKER_00:It was driving me nuts the whole time.
SPEAKER_03:Did we say something wrong?
SPEAKER_00:No, I just was trying to figure out who it was.
SPEAKER_03:It was like follow-up corner because I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_00:He's the guy with the couple of shooter.
SPEAKER_03:I think so. Did we watch it together?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_03:I do remember that.
SPEAKER_00:He gets his arm blown off. He's like the kind of like sort of like a kind of armless, sort of a rapey kind of guy. Yeah. Not a good guy. Kind of like the song we're singing today.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no, it's between two good friends. Two married best friends. Yeah, stay tuned if you want to hear a little uh Christmas cheer.
SPEAKER_00:Baby, it's cold outside. Why are we doing that? Because it's getting close to Christmas?
SPEAKER_03:It is getting close to Christmas, and I I uh my bread and butter is themes. I get through a lot of work by coming up with themes. And and you are you're just a fool if you let a theme like Christmas time go by.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. And actually We're recording this a couple days before Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_03:Remind me to talk about um the song It's the most wonderful time of the year when we're ready to talk about our ghosts.
SPEAKER_00:Stop! Oh I'm stepping on it, baby. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. Just kidding. Just kidding.
SPEAKER_03:Never mind. This podcast is canceled. I hope you enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_00:It's over now. Okay. Hey, let me just talk about some songs, some some albums I listened to, okay? I listen to Roots. Do you want more? Question mark, question mark, exclamation mark, exclamation mark, question mark, something like that. 1995.
SPEAKER_03:We talked about uh I actually listened to before the one that had the next movement on it. I think so. I think it's two albums before. Yeah, so before. Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. 1995, it's sick. It's great. I like it better than uh Things Fall Apart. Things fall apart's great. But this is even better. And I only listened to it once. Can you imagine what it's gonna be like when I listen to it four times?
SPEAKER_03:My gosh.
SPEAKER_00:No, it's uh I'm not gonna go into a lot of detail.
SPEAKER_03:I think you'll talk about it the next four weeks and we'll get to know.
SPEAKER_00:Something like that. Yeah, yeah. It's really good, though. It's got a lot of Rosell on it. You know, Rosell?
SPEAKER_03:No. Is that a lady?
SPEAKER_00:No. No, he he does a lot of beatboxing.
SPEAKER_03:Sounds like a lady's name.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, you know uh Rosell does uh you know that if your mother only know if your mother only no.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, good.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, he does that, but that's not on there. So I did that for no reason. Okay, uh probably. We'll get back to it. It's super it's super jazzy, it's um it's wonderful. Okay, it's raw.
SPEAKER_03:Raw. It's nice. Nice.
SPEAKER_00:Alright. What'd you listen to?
SPEAKER_03:Uh you want me to keep going? Yeah. All right. I didn't listen to anything.
SPEAKER_00:George Cables?
SPEAKER_03:No, that's not true. I did. I learned two songs this week.
SPEAKER_00:What songs do you learn?
SPEAKER_03:I learned this is so dumb. You shouldn't even listen to me tail say it. But yeah, did you hear what I just said? Did you hear what I just said? If my nose was running money, honey, I'd blow it all on you. Learn that.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. I think I heard you say that.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Um and I learned Whispering Pines. Who is that? Uh well, the Moron Brothers. Honestly, the man that asked for that song is a wonderful, delightful human being, so I'd pretty much learn anything for him. And then uh yeah, then Whispering Pines, Johnny Horton.
SPEAKER_00:I kind of like that song.
SPEAKER_03:You know what? The sheet music was free on the internet, so I was able to skip the learning part.
SPEAKER_00:Because you can because you can side read.
SPEAKER_03:And then I also learned Help Me Make It Through the Night by uh Chris Christofferson.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:But you know what? Tyler Childers has a version of that as well. I wondered why it sounds so familiar to me, but that's why.
SPEAKER_00:But you had the try Tyler Childers one first.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh. As I just listen to him sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:Man, it's crazy how everything just blends together. Isn't that wild?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:We just talked about the highway man. Oh, Chris.
SPEAKER_03:I know.
SPEAKER_00:Alright, so I listened to George Cables, Cables Vision, 1980.
SPEAKER_03:What's George Cables do?
SPEAKER_00:Uh he's a piano player.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:He's uh it's a lot, it's kind of like a jazz fusion album. Um it is uh I think it's six songs on there. I'll get into more details later. It's about the third pass I've listened to. I I he's kind of new on my radar. I've been kind of seeking somebody to fill the kind of add to the the Bob James sort of groove. It's a bit it's a little bit more um, it's a little bit more on the fusion side, okay, but it's still got a really nice kind of a glowing groove to it. Just a bit more uh free, you know, a bit more improv, looser. Okay, yeah, you want me to move on?
SPEAKER_03:No, I don't.
SPEAKER_00:We'll talk about it some other time. Check him out though if you haven't. I'm gonna definitely dive into some of his other stuff. This is the only album I've heard so far. Love it.
SPEAKER_03:Cables Vision?
SPEAKER_00:Cables Vision. I like that name of the album.
SPEAKER_03:It's cute.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's uh he's kind of a cute guy. Is he? I'll have to check him out. George he kind of reminds me a little bit, hang on.
SPEAKER_03:George Cables?
SPEAKER_00:Reminds me a little bit of Milichek from my memory, but hang on.
SPEAKER_03:Rule check.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. From um from uh Severance.
SPEAKER_03:Office-based severance. Uh Severance is great. If you haven't watched that, you should watch it.
SPEAKER_00:You know what? He doesn't really.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I think he just did in the picture that I saw.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_00:Anyways, moving on. All right. Uh I also listened to Medi or Medi. M-E-H-D-I. How would you s how would you say that?
SPEAKER_03:M-E-H-D-I.
SPEAKER_00:In Iranian.
SPEAKER_03:Medi, I think that's what I would say.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I listened to uh imagery, instrumental imagery volume three.
SPEAKER_03:What's he a doer of?
SPEAKER_00:It's kind of like electronic uh let me see if I wrote instrumental electronic ambient music. It's um like a like a lot of uh it's got a real sci-fi feel to it. Like there's a song on it called Twinkling Star.
SPEAKER_03:Does it have a lot of synth sounds in it? Yeah, but I don't like that. You know I don't like that.
SPEAKER_00:It's pretty cool. It's uh what's the uh what's the Star Wars score that's or the composition that's like is that like uh Luke Leia's theme or something like that? Yeah, it's I think it's Leia's theme. Yeah, I think it is.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Uh it's got a song that sounds a lot like that. Not so much that it's ripped off, but it's got like a a beat on it, too. It's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03:I've been listening to that song would be cool with some beat.
SPEAKER_00:It would. It's not that tune, but it just always reminds me of it. And and I really like the whole album's sweet. Um it's good study music. I've listened to it many times over the years. I've never listened to any of his other stuff. I need to listen to volume one and two.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Possibly four.
SPEAKER_03:We have a couple hour drive coming up.
SPEAKER_00:And you'd like to listen to some Medi?
SPEAKER_03:Well, it can be on while we're talking.
SPEAKER_00:That's true. Medi, we're coming for you, buddy.
SPEAKER_03:Medi.
SPEAKER_00:Um, would you like me to move off of that?
SPEAKER_03:Sure. I don't care what you're doing.
SPEAKER_00:We talked about ghostwriters. Oh. Check this out.
SPEAKER_02:All right.
SPEAKER_00:You know who I listened to? Who? Reggie Young. You know who that is? Is he a baseball player? You already talked about Reggie Jackson on the last one.
SPEAKER_03:I did. You did. Well, who was on the last one that I thought was Reggie Jackson?
SPEAKER_00:I said Reggie Young, and you asked me again about Reggie Jackson. Wow. And I was like kind of impressed that you knew of Reggie Jackson.
SPEAKER_03:You shouldn't be. No, I'm already retelling my own jokes. What month he's famous for? Why was he in a calendar?
SPEAKER_00:They call him Mr. October.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, he's Mr. October?
SPEAKER_00:He's Mr. October, yeah, because he's he's a he's a model, Millie.
SPEAKER_03:I think retelling stories and jokes is genetic, sorry.
SPEAKER_00:Um yeah, I do it all the time. It's I think everybody does. Unless when I want to. If you listen to this podcast long enough, folks, you'll hear the same crap over and over again from both of our faces. No, Reggie Young was uh the guitar player on Highwaymen. Oh. You remember how in love I was with this playing?
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I decided to check out some of his work. Reggie Young. I listened to Forever Young.
SPEAKER_03:Forever Young.
SPEAKER_00:No, that's not on there at all. Not Stewart or Dylan.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, is that the name of the album, Forever Young?
SPEAKER_00:Forever Young. Yeah. It's kind of cheesy, name.
SPEAKER_03:It is. Do you think he chose that before that song? Is that Rod Stewart?
SPEAKER_00:Uh no, this album came out in twenty seventeen. Uh yeah, it's a Dylan originally, I believe.
SPEAKER_03:It's a terrible song.
SPEAKER_00:I disagree.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. I hate Rod Stewart.
SPEAKER_00:I know you do. But well, that's all. About Rod Stewart later.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Today?
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, he did a version of Baby It's Cold Outside.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:With Dolly Parton.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I like her.
SPEAKER_00:It's uh I could have done without it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, probably the world can do without Rod Stewart.
SPEAKER_00:I I don't hate Rod Stewart.
SPEAKER_03:Good for you. Tell me how about how Reggie Stewart is.
SPEAKER_00:So Reggie Young, this album is Reggie Young Jackson. It's really good. It's is like Is it instrumental? It's instrumental. Isn't that crazy?
SPEAKER_03:It is. I don't think I'm ever gonna listen to it.
SPEAKER_00:I listen to a lot of instrumental stuff because viewers at home and listeners. Because I uh I can't listen to anything with lyrics in it while I'm working. And I, you know, I work on.
SPEAKER_03:You have to have headphones when you're working.
SPEAKER_00:I gotta have headphones while I'm working.
SPEAKER_03:Gotta have my headphones.
SPEAKER_00:So I listen to it's something my body needs anyway.
SPEAKER_03:Something your body needs anyway.
SPEAKER_00:So I listen to maybe a lot of this from middle music. And uh Reggie Young, great melodic blues. I don't know how else to really call it. It's like um it kind of reminded me a lot of uh a lot of like some of Larry Carlton's playing. It's just very, you know, it's not super fancy and dolled up, but it's I mean, he can do that. But he just plays and it's it's not quite as jazzy as like modern lore, that album I talked about with Julian Lodge, which is kind of in the similar genre, but uh there's some really good songs on there. Memphis Grease is awesome. That's the one that kind of made me think of Larry Carleton. Soul Love's really good. Uh this dude is is on all sorts of stuff I love. So he was a session player. Isn't that crazy? Surprised.
SPEAKER_03:You love session players?
SPEAKER_00:I do. Well, they're the best.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they think they actually are.
SPEAKER_00:So he was on Highwaymen. You know what else he was on?
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_00:He was on uh Memphis Solstew, you know that song? Oh by King Curtis?
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_00:It's one of those tunes that's like it's one of those tunes that's like, okay, you know uh Dance to the Music by Slying the Family Song?
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh. Where they kind of add instruments to it and they build on it.
SPEAKER_00:Memphis Solstew's like that.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And it's like how uh, how about some ball of Memphis guitar? And he's playing like all uh sixth. But you know what I mean? Like the hang on, I'm gonna do it. I can't actually play the line. Yeah, it's like uh like uh kind of like that sort of stuff, so it's playing intervals with six. I don't know. Is it first interval of the six? I think Cornell Dupree actually plays that lick, but he's on the tune as well. I couldn't quite get uh information on it. But he plays, you know, you know uh you know Hooked on a Feeling?
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. I like that song.
SPEAKER_00:You know the not the Uga Shaka one by Blue Suede, but the BJ Thomas one. The one that starts it starts off it's a sitar.
SPEAKER_03:No, I don't think I've ever heard that.
SPEAKER_00:You have BJ Thomas really, really. Yeah, and also uh the Growing Pains theme song I think.
SPEAKER_03:What? How does that go?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, crap.
SPEAKER_03:That's all right, we'll come back to it.
SPEAKER_00:Um we got Yeah, yeah. We got the world's I think that's BJ Thomas. Cool. Okay, but there's a sitar in the beginning of it's like bum bum bum bum don. You know it, you know it?
SPEAKER_03:I don't.
SPEAKER_00:That's that's him. That's our boy. Oh my gosh. He plays sits in the back. I was really excited. Yeah, he plays a lot of sitar. He's awesome. He's played with a ton of people. No. He oh he played on Suspicious Minds, Kentucky Rain. I know.
SPEAKER_03:Those are my two favorite on the songs, dude. All right.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He's uh if every consumption corner could be this exciting.
SPEAKER_00:I was super pumped. I wrote down that I felt like Homer Simpson when he finds out that all of his favorite foods are from the same animal. Oh, surely he's a wonderful, magical animal. Yeah, Faye.
SPEAKER_02:That is great.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he's sick. I'm gonna there's not a lot, he doesn't have a lot of stuff. He does like that, maybe his only solo album, except for maybe one more, but the whole thing's great. I'm gonna listen to crap up.
SPEAKER_03:But also just stayed home and uh gave his supported his family. Yeah, paid attention to him.
SPEAKER_00:That's our boy Reggie.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. He's probably like a monster. Just kidding, I'm sure he's great. I don't know. Maybe Kitty Wills can tell us.
SPEAKER_00:Uh that's better. I love you, Kitty.
SPEAKER_03:Someone asked me about her today.
SPEAKER_00:Did they? Yeah. Like, what why do you ever hear about her bones in your closet?
SPEAKER_03:No. I didn't tell them. I was like, yes, why are you asking me?
SPEAKER_00:Um I watched three movies this week.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. Are they all three hours? What of them was one of them the one we watched together?
SPEAKER_00:One of them was three and a half. Um, no. Well has two hours and nine minutes. How long is that?
SPEAKER_03:How long is two hours and nine minutes? Yeah. It's two hours and nine minutes.
SPEAKER_00:In hours. I mean two two hours, two hundred and nine minutes. Two hundred and nine minutes. Well, 180 is three. Yeah. Yeah. So that was the Irishman.
SPEAKER_03:Um did you sing I was an Irishman?
SPEAKER_00:I did not, I didn't sing that missed opportunity. Scorsese would have loved it. It was another Scorsese movie. We've watched Cape Fear.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:You know, that was Scor Scorsese.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, okay. I was like, we didn't watch, we didn't just watch Cape Fear.
SPEAKER_00:So have you seen Good Fellows?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, you and I watched it once, but in we were in college and I was just like, Have you seen Casino? No.
SPEAKER_00:Have you seen Wolf of Wall Street?
SPEAKER_03:No. I never want to see that movie.
SPEAKER_00:It's good.
SPEAKER_03:I know, but it's too much.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, so it's got the same kind of beats. Those are all Scorsese movies. And it's got the same sort of formula where it almost feels like it's like the quickest three and a half hour movie you'll ever watch.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Because it's Scorsese movies, not all of them, but like movies like this, this style, they all they sort of feel like like a three and a half hour montage of like a guy's life. And it goes through all this, you know, the Pesci's in it, Harvey Kaitel's in it, Piccino's in it, yeah. De Nero's in it, yes. So all these, it's like a reunion of all these, you know.
SPEAKER_03:And what year is that from?
SPEAKER_00:Did I write it down? Yes, I did, 2019.
SPEAKER_03:What it's new? Relatively new.
SPEAKER_00:Pretty new. It's great. Like I put off watching it for well, six years if I did my math right there. But it's all about like um it's about like the like Jimmy Hoffa in that whole story. There's a guy named Frank Sheeran. No. No, but if if if if this is that well, I don't want to spoil anything, but I guess it doesn't really matter though.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00:No?
SPEAKER_03:Save it.
SPEAKER_00:So it's uh it's all on the account. From what I know, it's uh there's I think there's a book called Um I Heard You Paint Houses, which is basically like a Frank Sheeran is the is De Niro's character. He's the main character.
SPEAKER_03:Is Ed Sheeran related in?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:That'd be pretty much Frank F Redhair.
SPEAKER_00:No. No. They do a lot of like CGI stuff, so they make like Pesci and and De Niro and look younger. And it's not obnoxious. Like it's cool. It's done pretty well. But like most of the movie, they're like that. Um Jesse Plemens is in it. Uh he's been in like the last four movies I've watched.
SPEAKER_03:Wow, you're on a real I'm on a plemence.
SPEAKER_00:I'm on a plemon. I'm a plemment's head.
SPEAKER_03:You might say is he dead?
SPEAKER_00:No. He's the dude that looks like uh who I said.
SPEAKER_03:I don't remember who you who you said he was.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Wait, let me see if I can remember. Matt Damon and somebody else's young Matt Damon's eight-year-old brother who went to puberty or what?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, he doesn't anymore. He's he's he went through. He's grown into himself. But the earlier roles, he looks like like a he's great. He's a fantastic actor. I'm not taking anything away from him. He's but he's he plays a wonderful creep. I would love to sing see him sing Baby is cold outside with anyone, anyone in a cage. You pick.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. Anyone in a cage.
SPEAKER_00:Anyone in a cage. Um Irishman's awesome. Uh Robbie Robertson does the the music? The music. Do you know who that is?
SPEAKER_03:No, I do not.
SPEAKER_00:He was a guitar player from the band.
SPEAKER_03:Holy cow, Rob.
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. He just knows so many things.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I I do like the band, and I like Scorsese. And I one of the reasons I like Scorsese is the way he uses music.
SPEAKER_03:What's the what's a what's the band song that I would know right off the top?
SPEAKER_00:Cripple Creek.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, he wrote that one, I think. He wrote or he wrote I know he wrote The Wait. I know he wrote the night they uh drug old Dixie down. What the heck? Brought it down, tore it down, blinked it down.
SPEAKER_03:They night they snicked it down. I think they sicked it down.
SPEAKER_00:I can why am I blanking all that? Anyways, it's got tons of stuff. Glenn Miller's in it, five satins.
SPEAKER_03:There's like the Glenn Miller band?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like Tuxedo Junction.
SPEAKER_03:In the mood.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like in the mood.
SPEAKER_03:In the mood's not in it, but but I mean, like that's who we're talking about.
SPEAKER_00:It's got a John Coltrane in it. It's got just a lot of uh um pro colherem, like um White or Shade of Pale, you know, that's all I do.
SPEAKER_03:We played it in in a marching band show.
SPEAKER_00:It's just got a great soundtrack, and they just Scorsese just keeps needle drops coming. Like it's it's awesome. Boop. So great movie, super violent, lots of swearing. Um, it's wonderful. But it's like somehow light. It's not light, but it's it's way lighter than like casino where you know guys get beaten with baseball beds and buried alive.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, see, that's why I want to watch stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00:But even that's kind of fun. Like they're in their underwater.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_00:Do you remember Yash?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I definitely remember Yash.
SPEAKER_00:Do you remember Casino too? The brothers' revenge.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, the one that you guys wrote together? Yeah. You had a link to those Yash videos.
SPEAKER_00:Where the brothers get out. The brothers get out of the grave. They they have their revenge. Anyways, uh yeah, I'll link to it. The brothers' revenge. The brothers' revenge. I watched There Will Be Blood.
SPEAKER_03:Good.
SPEAKER_00:That's an hour 158 minutes.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. That's two and a half hours.
SPEAKER_00:I almost stopped it and thought Leslie might want to watch this. It's I don't think you would have liked it, but I think you would have appreciated it. It's Daniel Day Lewis, Paul Dano. You know Paul Dano? Remember the Riddler from the newer Batman movie?
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:Um you ever see Little Miss Sunshine? Yes. He's in that. He's Oh, you remember the show the movie Prisoners with Hugh Jackman and uh Jake Jill and Hall?
SPEAKER_03:Oh well. Yes, I think.
SPEAKER_00:He's kind of like the the mentally brother? Yeah, the guy who kidnapped the kids. Yeah. Oh. Who Hugh Jackman ties up and just starts.
SPEAKER_03:I hate that movie so much.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it's so good though.
SPEAKER_03:It's terrible. Yeah, it's terrible, but it's they were right there the whole time. Sorry, spoiler.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, why would you do that?
SPEAKER_03:Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:We gotta say spoiler first and then do it.
SPEAKER_03:You could put it in the description.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, I don't even know if you're necessarily right.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I I don't actually know what you mean by that.
SPEAKER_03:I won't say what I mean then.
SPEAKER_00:Spoiler coming up. What do you mean by that? See, do it. Really?
SPEAKER_03:Do you want me to answer that?
SPEAKER_00:No, we'll talk about prisoners some other time.
SPEAKER_03:No, I am never watching that again.
SPEAKER_00:There will be blood.
SPEAKER_03:Attention if here's my tip for the day. If you are a a parent, don't watch that movie.
SPEAKER_00:There will be blood is awesome. I love that movie.
SPEAKER_03:Dream.
SPEAKER_00:It's uh it's got it's somewhere between. I'm not gonna do this right, but it feels like kind of like somewhere between like the lighthouse and and banshees of Inchurin or Inchurin or however you say that.
SPEAKER_03:Wow, that feels pretty far.
SPEAKER_00:Where you have like two really strong characters and actors, and they're just on an incredible level of some polarizing human qualities. Like like Daniel Day Lewis is just like just competition and greed incarnate. Like he doesn't care about anything else in the world except just winning. And Paul Dano is like a snake oil salesman type preacher, and and then there's all a lot of other great actors in it too, but they they just go, it's all about like Daniel Day-Lewis is like an oil tycoon, and he's just it's it's crazy.
SPEAKER_03:And the soundtrack is a nine period is a Setin? Setin?
SPEAKER_00:Setin, it's uh Setin. Uh uh. I think it starts in 1898 and ends in 1928.
SPEAKER_03:Cool. And I just thought of something I needed to write down based on Setin.
SPEAKER_00:The soundtrack is by uh I think Johnny Greenwood from Radiohead. And it's got like okay, you you know uh go rodeo sessions?
SPEAKER_03:Yes, I do.
SPEAKER_00:You know the kind of weird parts of that album? They kind of get into some like scrapey percussion sounding and stream. The whole soundtrack's like that, and it's used really well, and it just like it's very like anxiety breeding kind of music. It's it's great. Great Paul Thomas Anderson. I will I actually kind of want to watch it again as as brutal and messed up as it was, it was pretty fun. Um would you watch it with me if I watched it another time?
SPEAKER_03:Probably. Really? Third Your Mother Will Be Blood still. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Cool. And then we watched go.
SPEAKER_03:Howls Moving Castle, the anime.
SPEAKER_00:I guess it's anime. I don't ever know. I'm always uncomfortable calling stuff anime because I I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Someone's gonna come for us. I feel like we've said a lot of things that we shouldn't have said, and we're like somehow uncomfortable calling something anime.
SPEAKER_01:The audience won't like it, right?
SPEAKER_03:That's right. Anyway, so I was talking about reading Howell's Moving Castle. Well, then we got um my daughter wanted to watch the movie, and I I don't think I even knew there was a movie. But it's by the same studio Gibb Gibbly. Is it Ghibli?
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna ask you Ghibli or Ghibli.
SPEAKER_03:I would have said Studio Ghibli, but she said Ghibli.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna say Ghibli.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. That also did Spirit away.
SPEAKER_00:Won't you write us in?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Let us know.
SPEAKER_03:And then four podcasts from now, we'll say it.
SPEAKER_00:We'll say Ghibli Gibb.
SPEAKER_03:Ghibli Gibbly.
SPEAKER_00:Gib Gib.
SPEAKER_03:We'll say Giblets. Anyway, um, Spirited Away, that firefly and death movie.
SPEAKER_00:Great for the fireflies in it.
SPEAKER_03:Did the same people did they also do Ponyo or is that different?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:It's got a Pony I feel like was Ponyo Disney? Was it? I don't know. Some like weird branch.
SPEAKER_00:Was Liam Neeson in Ponyo?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Because you know who did all the voices for uh Spirited Away? How's Moving Castle was like?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, all these top like alien.
SPEAKER_00:Christian Bale was in it, uh Billy Crystals. When was it 2004? Billy Crystals. Yes, Tippet Eric. Um like 2004.
SPEAKER_03:But anyway, it's based on that book. And I wish so if you have not s read the book, feel free to watch the movie first. This is what I would recommend. Rarely would I recommend this, but I think the movie probably stands alone is a pretty great movie. But it could not be more it very much felt like like once Caroline said that the that the person who directed it had like a real agenda against war, then that's all I could see. And I was like, this has there's no war in the book. Sorry. The conflict is the conflict has nothing to do with war. There's like a missing well there's like a missing um brother that and and like the Sophie's character, she's pretty true to her character. Like she just gets like she talks to herself a lot and she gets frustrated with because she is old and um but how they did not do him justice. The way he's written in the book, he has so much more um quirks. He's not this like Is he like a Willy Walker kind of character? He's more of a Willy Wonka character, like a young he is kind of young and attractive, and he does like break hearts everywhere he goes, which I guess they sort of alluded to, but like that's a much bigger deal. And like her she has two sisters.
SPEAKER_00:Was it like seeing was it like seeing Beauty and the Beast, uh the beast come to life and being disappointed?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Yeah, that's sad. So anyway, I'm sure the movie is on its own, stands alone fine, but I just feel like they just didn't do how right at all. They did them bad, they did them dirty.
SPEAKER_00:So I have not read the book, as you know. I love the movie.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you should read the book and then maybe we can be on the book.
SPEAKER_00:I I want to read the book. I would you say it's like I wrote down in my notes along the watchtower. I'm wondering if they're far enough apart where you could appreciate both of them. Like all on the watchtower, Hendrix and Bob Dylan. Okay. Right. Yeah. Have you heard both versions? So they're quite different. They're both pretty great. Hendrix, I prefer. I think Bob Dylan even prefers Hendrix's version. How could you not? But um, all that being said, forget about that analogy. It's just I I'll tell you what, I'll read the book, because I told you I was going to anyway. And then I'll let you know if that analogy stands. But are they far enough apart? Because like we talked about um what we what were two the two properties we talked about? Um properties? Well, not properties, uh intellectual property. Yeah, uh uh we were just talking about it. Caroline.
SPEAKER_03:Uh Ready Player One.
SPEAKER_00:Ready Player One and Oh, what was the other one?
SPEAKER_03:I haven't.
SPEAKER_00:The one with the with the boy, the genius boy who has all the family friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:No, that was just a bad movie.
SPEAKER_00:That movie sucked. Yeah. But the differences were was it further away from so Ready Player One, like again, Ready Player One, probably a pretty good movie. If you hadn't read it, I've heard like it was pretty well uh heralded. Like people liked it a lot.
SPEAKER_03:Here's here's what I want to speak to on that.
SPEAKER_00:But the book is so much better.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So Howell's Moving Castle, I don't even know why they call it like it's almost not it's not even really about how. Like, I don't know. It just was like not about what it was about. It just was a completely different story. Like you could have totally put new characters in. Like they barely used the premise of Howl's Moving Castle.
SPEAKER_00:I thought it was I was getting some serious Doctor Who vibes from it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I mean he's not really like that. He's not really a hero.
SPEAKER_00:The reason I say that is because you have you have the first of all, everything's bigger on the inside, kind of thing.
SPEAKER_03:Well, of course, that's true.
SPEAKER_00:You have you have like you have these these companions like Sophie just sort of almost falls in love with him immediately. Like all the like all Doctor Who's like companions sort of like are kind of in love with him and have like a royalty to him. It's it's not like that, right? The movies like that, yes.
SPEAKER_03:But the book, I just it's so hard once you've read the book, especially because I just reread it within the last couple months.
SPEAKER_00:It just really made me want to watch Doctor Who.
SPEAKER_03:Well, me too.
SPEAKER_00:And he teleports places in like space-time. He does have like a door and he always kind of like doesn't really care, like he's in major trouble, but isn't like exactly sweating.
SPEAKER_03:If this interests you at all, watch the movie first and then go read the book.
SPEAKER_00:Watch all the Doctor Who's first and then So watch the you said watch the movie first, then read the book.
SPEAKER_03:I would do that, yes.
SPEAKER_00:That's a hot take.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:I like that. This what's popular.
SPEAKER_03:Person who likes to see because like it didn't bring anything that I wanted to see to life.
SPEAKER_00:Um what did you want to see? Could you say something that we won't spoil it?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, pretty much the entire plot was different.
SPEAKER_00:So Clark liked it.
SPEAKER_03:Good.
SPEAKER_00:Clark usually will he'll watch five minutes of a movie with us and be like, bye.
SPEAKER_03:Or roll around until we yell at him and then leave.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he's like he told me he's like, I really liked that movie last night. He's like, I sat down, I thought I was gonna bounce in five minutes. He's like, I took he's like, I I I liked it a lot. I watched I really want to watch the whole thing. And I was like, me too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I liked it. I liked it.
SPEAKER_00:I understand.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, okay, cool. Do you want me to say something?
SPEAKER_00:Music was nice.
SPEAKER_03:I loved the music. That theme is beautiful.
SPEAKER_00:That theme is really nice. I don't know who wrote that. We shouldn't look it up.
SPEAKER_03:Caroline's not gonna listen to this, is she?
SPEAKER_00:She will eventually. When we die.
SPEAKER_03:But not before Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:When we die, she'll go back to Christmas.
SPEAKER_03:Because I was thinking we could get her the piano music for Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:Didn't she say she had it? She said she'd played it before. Because I was like, how do you know this music? She's like, Oh, I've I've seen the sheep music.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think we have it, but maybe we do. I'll ask her.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Yeah, check it out.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I'll say a thing now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, say a thing.
SPEAKER_03:I loved the Carmen Family Murders documentary on Netflix.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I thought that was really interesting. I just didn't know where it was gonna go.
SPEAKER_00:And you want to give a quick rundown of what it's about?
SPEAKER_03:It's about a man who's has he goes out on a boat with his mother. He's rescued at sea, so kind of a boy man. He's a boy man. Um, he's a young man.
SPEAKER_00:He's like a Jesse Plemens type character.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think so. Um and he does have autism, that's pretty central to the to the plot line. But anyway, while he's out on the boat, he you know, that he goes missing and then they rescue him seven days later and he's in a life raft, and he basically has the story that his mother and the boat capsized and the mother went down with the boat. And then they invite they're like so that's how they open it up, but then they I don't want to spoil it because it's not that long.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it's interesting because it's like the first 30 minutes, it's it's just about the mother. And but it's called the Carmen Family Murders with an S. So I was like, wow, I need to know what else is happening because I don't think that they would make such a big oversight on that if it was just one person.
SPEAKER_00:So Netflix's just best titled.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, uh so if you into if you're into true crime at all, I would definitely recommend that one. It was a good watch.
SPEAKER_00:I enjoyed it. And I'm not I'm I wouldn't say I'm not into true crime, but not like me. It's here's what true crime is like for me. It's like America's America's funniest own videos. Not not because it's that funny. I know what you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_03:Sometimes it is it's like you never think you're gonna want to turn it on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like I don't really want to watch that. And you sit down and start watching, and you're just like, Oh, I need to know I need to go happen. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so there you go.
SPEAKER_00:It was good. I liked it. I only saw what would you say? I saw two-thirds of it. You saw myself. I'd sit down, you'd catch me up, and you could pick it up. It's yeah. You pick it up, they repeat the same thing.
SPEAKER_03:I'm a good catcher upper.
SPEAKER_00:I will say, uh I'll just say I think he did it.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you.
SPEAKER_00:Did you did you already say that?
SPEAKER_03:Uh no, I didn't investigate. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, spoilers. Rob thinks he did it.
SPEAKER_03:He's being investigated, so you can decide for yourself whether or not you think he did it or not.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I mean it's just it's just really interesting just because he has autism for sure. Um and so people don't read him the way that, you know they're used to reading people that they're questioning and stuff like that, and it's like how much of that is he's using to his advantage, or it's just the way he is, and he really can never separate it, and just really interesting to watch.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So, alright.
SPEAKER_00:Do you want to uh you want to move on to something?
SPEAKER_03:Oh scary. Robert.
SPEAKER_00:That was my uh that was my Vincent Price voice. I'm not very good at it. It's kind of sounds people say it sounds like a burp.
SPEAKER_03:Some people say that. Um but yeah, well, I I thought it would be a good topic because so here's the part you spoiled earlier. But I'm gonna pretend like you didn't. In the song It's the most wonderful time of the year, they sing there'll be scary ghost stories and tales of the glories of Christmases long, long ago. And other than like the Scrooge, the Christmas Carol, are there is it common that there's a lot of ghost stories around Christmas? Are you leaving?
SPEAKER_00:No, I want to make sure I want to see what time we're we're at this app uh still recording?
SPEAKER_03:Look at that, yep.
SPEAKER_00:Oh okay. Forty minutes in.
SPEAKER_03:We're good. Forty minutes in.
SPEAKER_00:Forty minutes in, Renee. Eat that.
SPEAKER_03:I'll have to tell her that she gets a couple name drops in this app. Um and and you know, we did a crit we're doing a Christmas song. I w I, you know, like a theme. So I thought we could, you know, maybe talk about some spooky stuff today.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like Chris Christmas.
SPEAKER_03:Mysteries and in in in honor of the uh scary ghost stories of Christmas past.
SPEAKER_00:And you had a lot of stuff on that list.
SPEAKER_03:I did, because I didn't want to limit you. I didn't want to box you in. Well So we're kinda going we're kind of going paranormal.
SPEAKER_00:You put aliens, you put demons, ghosts.
SPEAKER_03:The more you listen to stuff that's out there, the more stuff starts to cross over, and you're like, maybe it's all aliens, or maybe it's all Bigfoot, or you know, there is a theory like like Doctor Who.
SPEAKER_00:Everything's always aliens. No, but there's a um I can't I don't remember the details of it, but there is like a kind of a overlapping theory that throughout time, and I'm paraphrasing this like crazy, but throughout time, like all these cryptids and extraterrestrials and fairies and whatever, they all kind of change with the zeitgeist.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:And and so like fairies become aliens. Right.
SPEAKER_03:I understand that.
SPEAKER_00:That sort of thing. Um that's not exactly what I was getting at, but yeah, what I and I don't even know where I'm going with that, but uh it there are like these kind of umbrella views of basically the unexplained.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. So we're talking about the unexplained today.
SPEAKER_00:So how do you want to drive this thing?
SPEAKER_03:I want to just kind of go through our list. I just came up, I thought we could kick it off with what's your favorite scary story you ever heard but you just can't ever forget. And didn't you answer did you answer these questions that I sent you?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I looked them over and I thought about them.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So and and why did it stick in your head? And it could been something that happened to you and be like your favorite scary story.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so I was trying to think of something that that happened.
SPEAKER_03:Mine is not something that happened to me.
SPEAKER_00:I have never had I mean, the closest thing, this is hardly worth mentioning, because it's it's it's a you you start to get into issues with with memory and you start to get into Oh, so it's gonna be one of those discussions. Well, I won't get into it too. Well, shoot, yeah. So all this well, okay, let me let me let me just say that. I saw something floating one time when I was a kid.
SPEAKER_03:Ooh, creepy.
SPEAKER_00:It was just in the middle of a vacant lot, and there was a rock.
SPEAKER_03:I think you told me about this.
SPEAKER_00:Rock just floating, and I was just kind of like, I had to get in the car, and I was just looking at that thing and just being like, what is happening?
SPEAKER_03:Like, how big was the rock?
SPEAKER_00:And I'm looking like uh I don't know. A couple inches like a boulder or anything.
SPEAKER_03:Small, big rock.
SPEAKER_00:And it could have been any number of illusions or not illusions, but you know, like my mind playing tricks on me kind of business. Um, but I just remember distinctly being like, that rock is floating.
SPEAKER_03:How old do you think you are?
SPEAKER_00:Uh I know I was going off to we were going to get a poo poo platter at a Chinese restaurant. So young enough slash old enough that I thought that was funny. So somewhere between four and forty-three.
SPEAKER_03:I'd say it was like uh Wait, is this a future story?
SPEAKER_00:I'd say it was like, I don't know. Let's just let's let's call me six. Oh that's seven, something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Six, seven.
SPEAKER_00:Uh but but but the so I've never had any I've never had any paranormal kind of things happen to me.
SPEAKER_03:Did that scare you?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_03:Did you just think it was weird?
SPEAKER_00:I just thought it was really, really weird. I haven't seen anything like it since. Um I mean it in my memory, it was floating.
SPEAKER_03:Where were you?
SPEAKER_00:We were at some like a cousin's house or something.
SPEAKER_03:And when you say vacant lot, it's just like a house lot like that didn't have a house on it. Like in a neighborhood.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting.
SPEAKER_00:I wanted to get out and actually check it out. No. We'd have been visiting somebody in like uh I don't know, Virginia or South Carolina.
SPEAKER_03:I wish you would have checked it out. It's my biggest regret for your life.
SPEAKER_00:That's that was one kind of weird thing. I I haven't had so the creepiest things haven't I've never had a paranormal normal thing happen to me, but I've had them happen to the room that I was in while I was in it sleeping. Um John, one of my roommates at so OU, you know, is apparently super haunted. Um stories everywhere about all sorts of stuff. Especially if you get into like the ridges and like the middle institution. But in my room, John said he woke up and saw a girl sitting in the chair staring at him.
SPEAKER_03:Creepy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Woo-hoo.
SPEAKER_00:And uh for all I know, there probably was an actual girl who just came to our room was staring at us when I was, you know, he was we didn't sleep with our door locked for a lot of y a lot of nights. But I mean, I was in there and uh he swears by it. Uh another time Joel would printed a piece of paper out, and he said it floated across the room and landed upright and on its edge. On its edge, and just chilled there. Now, Joel did a lot of acid, so that could also be it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, maybe that was what was allowing him to see what was really happening.
SPEAKER_00:Well, we could get into that. I mean, uh so here's my kind of over Do you want me to get into like my overarching views? No, not yet. No, okay.
SPEAKER_03:But so those are your tops. Yeah, just stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00:But I've never had, you know, I told you I lived in a haunted house. Like they told said that they heard them all the time, Keith playing the piano and walking around with this dead guy who I you know never heard anything, saw anything. Maybe you're just not a my mom would say I'm I'm protected by the Holy Spirit.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you might be.
SPEAKER_00:I think I might be. I think you are, but I don't even know what that means.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:You know, like people act like they know what that means.
SPEAKER_03:Well, like maybe you're the kind of person who has to all has to be protected because you otherwise you'd be like, Well, I need to know more about that, and then you'd fall.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe I got all sorts of theories, you're probably not even more good.
SPEAKER_03:Mine is uh my favorite story that I think I've ever heard that's creepy. I like the the stories that I like that stick in my mind are the ones that can happen, like within the realm of what we already understand, but are just really creepy. And my favorite one, I don't want to give it away too much, but it because it's from I think it's from a radio rental. Um, it's where that kid was playing in the woods with that other little kid.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, with the mom.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And then realizes as an adult what the real situation was.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's crazy to me. That's so creepy. I don't want to say too much, but if you I I should have looked up what it is, but it's from a it's from an earlier radio rental. And it's someone talking about growing up and meeting up with a friend in the woods.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, that's a great one. That's a that's a creepy one. That's a really good one.
SPEAKER_03:Um, and then one that I just heard recently, Radio Rental's my probably my favorite podcast, but they just had one on the other day, which this one's I'll just retell it. Sorry, is that allowed?
SPEAKER_00:Well that's what the conceptor core is.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay. That's true.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um these this couple was traveling and they they stopped in bad weather, they'd stopped at a restaurant, and then as they were traveling up and the weather's getting worse and worse, um, the the man was driving and he's like, Something's pushing on my seat, something's pushing on my seat, and she's like, I don't see anything back there, you know, it's just the two of them in their car, but they're just creeping along because the weather's so bad, snow and stuff. Finally, they get they pull over because she's like, I'll I'll see if I can move the stuff, and there's no person in the car. And they like called the police and everything, but they had taken a selfie at the restaurant, and the door to the car was open, and you can see in the selfie this woman getting in their car, and they didn't notice it. And she was like mentally ill, like homeless person, just sick, just kind of a sick person.
SPEAKER_00:But anyway, it's just like that's my favorite kind of thing because it's like uh story with Jeremy, um, the the old woman going into his house and taking all of his stuff. Yeah, and they had him on had her on camera, and like that was that's the wild story.
SPEAKER_03:That's just straight up happened.
SPEAKER_00:So you're talking about you like the creepy people stuff. I do because it's And dip this is different from like because I I got a story about like these four dudes that pulled up behind me and I was in a bad area and I pulled a shotgun out and I didn't pull it on them, but like I just had it. I was it was the biggest bluff of my life. Like I was I don't know what I was thinking. But I put yeah, anyways, but that's that's more of like a that's more of like a scary criminal kind of story.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I I mean any anything can qualify. All right.
SPEAKER_00:And that was to drive around with a shotgun on me, by the way. That's I know different days.
SPEAKER_03:Different times. Um, but yeah, I love I just love things that don't need a paranormal explanation, but they're still creepy as can be. Those are my favorite kind.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:All right, ready for the next question?
SPEAKER_00:That could be a whole topic on itself. Yeah, yeah. The next question.
SPEAKER_03:Do you believe in Bigfoot? Of in of in any capacity, whatever his name is, wherever he might live, just do you believe there is a a large humanoid ape type of uh creature out there?
SPEAKER_00:I'm probably not gonna give a definitive answer unless you force me to. But I I mean I believe in this is lame, but I believe in the possibility of it. I think there's there's even still I mean, obviously we this isn't this is not an ocean question. We all know that. I mean I think I'd say I'm more than likely to believe in some junior version of a megalodon than I am Bigfoot, just because of the unexpl the vastness of the ocean of the unexplored ocean. Uh there's I mean, there's a lot of interesting I've seen anecdotal stuff out there. But they have never found anything.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, wouldn't they find a carcass? Unless they're more intelligent than we think and they're hiding their dead bodies.
SPEAKER_00:But think about all the humans. Think about all the people we find.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like we you look for a person, like you're gonna I I guess what I'm saying is like we're talking about people who have I mean, how long have legends of Bigfoot been around? Let's just say the contemporary, let's say the last hundred years, fifty years, last fifty years. We got enough folks dedicating their lives to hunting Bigfoot.
SPEAKER_03:They should have found it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Now I know that they have quote unquote found them. You know, people have seen and heard and smelled and have these things and they lost them and they the pictures are gone and all this.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's always something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, how could that possibly keep happening?
SPEAKER_00:Now, I that would bring me to a kind of an overarching topic that one thing that I I don't this is gonna sound like it's an obvious thing, and it is, but it's worth mentioning. Something at the very least, something incredibly interesting is happening in general. Yeah. With things like Bigfoot and thing where it's like, let's just say the most imaginative imaginatively conservative, pragmatic viewpoint. You know, somebody, some Snopes author might, their viewpoint. That's even like that that it's all just a combination of lies, public hysteria, and psychological issues. That's still fascinating. Yeah, totally. It's still a thing. That's still like wait, but still like like public hysteria is something that very much interests me. Like there's all those stories of you know the the dancing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The sleeping city.
SPEAKER_00:That's a funny story with that, but we don't have time to talk about it's we can when we maybe when we get Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So I I think some something, something is doing something. Remember that? Okay, so then I asked you to to remind yourself about that missing 411 documentary?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Did you?
SPEAKER_00:Remind myself of it?
SPEAKER_03:Like, did you go back and just familiarize with like the Okay, well, let me just ask you this. Do you remember the one story where they were like these just like regular like man's man people and they had that camp up in the mountains and they had all of that audio, like video audio, and it sounded very much like giant Bigfoot type creatures that were up there, and then they never went back, and then the um the government dismantled their camp. Remember that? What was that? I don't know. See that one to me is like, what is that? Because those people were just like regular, like I think some of them are like soldiers, like retired military people. Not that being retired military just makes you like this paragon of virtue. No, but it definitely elevates you to a But I do feel like it would make you keep your mouth shut if you thought someone was gonna make fun of you. And like they're willing to talk about it and not know what it is, and uh and they didn't tell people where the camp was either. Like they had kept it secret.
SPEAKER_00:Is that the one with the old the old guy?
SPEAKER_03:No, that one was that was a hunting, they were just hunting deer and he just disappeared. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:What's the sorry, what's what's the was it Radio Rental, the one that had the I know I'm shifting a bit, but the Wendigo?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that was a radio rental. That was a crazy story.
SPEAKER_00:That was a creepy one. Dude.
SPEAKER_03:That gives me I get like a story, man.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um yeah, that if you haven't seen the missing 411, it's called The Hunted. It was cool. It's a great one. It is cool. It has some really good stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe three, are there like three stores?
SPEAKER_03:I think there's like five or six.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. He tells I saw I think I only saw a couple of them.
SPEAKER_03:It's it tells the some of the it I there's another one, there's only two that are out there that aren't paid for, I think. And I watched them both. One of them was specifically about people who go missing in the national parks, which I'll talk about that in a minute. But this one was people on hunting trips specifically that were things that happened to them.
SPEAKER_00:I will say, and maybe I should have opened with this. I don't think I don't know how to say this without sounding like a lunatic. I don't think that the reality that we know is the real reality. Yeah. I don't I think we're on like the I think we're in I think this is like a Plato's cave kind of situation, or like um uh flatlands, like a 2D, like a 2D world. 2D people living in the 3D world kind of thing. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Uh so well that brings me to my next two questions together, then I'll say aliens, yes or no. You have to pick one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. And then are they aliens from the universe as we know it, or are they is this interdimensional stuff?
SPEAKER_00:I am neither would surprise me. I'm all in on extra extra dimensional stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Extra dimensional? It I said inter. What's extra?
SPEAKER_00:Uh whatever. I don't know. Okay. Okay. Uh I I'm I'm a big believer that we are not um again, I use that flatlands. Like that I never actually read that book, have you?
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_00:It's like an old like an eighteen hundreds book about um uh Neil Neil deGrasse Tyson talked, I think he I don't know if he referred to it directly, but he was talking about basically like if we're you know, you draw a stick figure on a paper plate like that's us.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know. Um it I I'm paraphrasing, I don't remember. I don't even know if he said that's us, but he was talking about a certain theory. Uh kind of what it's like to be like extra dimensions, right? So that that is that's you know, cubically speaking, and and the area of time, space-time is that paper plate. This me holding the paper plate is you know the real. It's the you know, uh basically, I mean, if we can start gonna get like the telepathy tapes or something like that. Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:If you haven't listened to that, you should.
SPEAKER_00:But um, I mean, personally, I think that like the kingdom of heaven is that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I think it's the bigger picture. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It's the bigger, more dimensional thing outside.
SPEAKER_00:I I think like the entire Bible was written for the water. Where we do not have yeah, for paper plate people. Where like like the the do you know what like apophat apophatic theology is? It's basically like you can't Joe actually helped me uh learn that one. Um because he I was explaining, trying to explain this, this. Not in terms of like paranormal stuff, but in terms of the the Bible and in terms of like I believe all these things to be true, but I only believe them to be true up into our our ability to understand them. Right. Like I believe that that God exists and created words for us to facilitate us to be proper people as designed, but beyond that we know nothing. And and I think that we're kind of led to that, right? Like to led to like I know it sounds crazy, but people talk about like simulation theory all the time. It's all kind of the same thing. You just we get into semantics, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:So back to aliens.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I just want to stay on stay on the spooky paranormal theme and uh explain.
SPEAKER_00:The thing is, though, I think that sort of exp that can easily everything.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, f so okay, so I I don't I should have looked up a little bit more about it, but that three eye atlas thing. What if that is? What do you think? Do you think that is, even if it doesn't have life on it, but it is ends up being, you know, steered remotely. What is it? What is it? Is it aliens?
SPEAKER_01:I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Is it us from the future? Do you believe in time speaking?
SPEAKER_00:Like yesterday's enterprise?
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Is that what that was about? Anyways, um I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:And like I can't even do it justice, but the very, very, very, very small amount that I understand about quantum physics blows my mind to the point where I'm like, yeah, any of this could be true.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Any of this could be true.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, this is what I mean, again, I if it's I already sort of said it, but I we both do. You know I do. But for the listeners at home, I'm I believe in the God of Abraham, right? The Yahweh. But I no buts, but yeah, but if you believe that there is a all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving, all everything, omni omni-fill-in-the-blank being, for lack of a better word, if you believe that, um the thing that one of the things that drives me nuts is when people say, like, oh, it's just that's just the way God does it. Not like, and and yeah, ultimately we have to, we have to, we have to come to that. But to say it flippantly, like dismissing somebody else's concerns that they might like, that's I think the probably the thing that drives like atheists so insane. Uh, and I get it, uh, because it drives me insane as a Christian, but like when somebody's just like, oh well, that's just the way God does it. But like, okay, but if you accept that there's someone, something, a for lack of a better word, an entity that can do all these things, knows everything, has been around, lives outside of time, all this stuff, then you have to accept that there is infrastructure in place that would allow for him to do all these things.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Like, there at some point there has to be a physical manifestation.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Even if none of the even if all this is just paper plate living, there still has to be some sort of interface for it. So in order for that to happen, sorry, in order for that, if if if you accept that to be true, then my goodness, it could be anything. You know, like it's like what I was trying to explain to my dad. Like, if you if you believe in angels and demons, which I know you do, father, then what do you okay, what let's just let's just pretend there isn't a name for that, right? Because we've called it thousands of things over the years. If we just happen in this language to call it ink angels and demons, but like okay, so you're accepting that there's another dimension. You're not saying this, but you are accepting this that there is another dimension with other life forms that are not humans but are sentient and and have powers that we don't have.
SPEAKER_03:And can come in here and That's paranormal.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah I don't care what you call whatever you want, but it's like the some semantics drive me absolutely insane and I think we people get into fights and kill each other over it. But I think it's all sort of the same thing.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So kind of on Sorry to turn this into like a religious podcast, but it you know, I'm I'm Well, I mean, I can kind of bring it back to that in a second, but what about dreams? So I know you hate dreams, and you I mean, I hate dreams, but you don't like listening to other people's dreams, which who does telling, like especially like if you have a little kid that's like uh just discovered that they can tell you about their dreams and you have you're stuck listening to something that you're just like, ugh, four-year-old dreams, I don't want to hear it. I think I don't want to hear anyone's dreams, really. But my question is there's so much like unknown stuff about our sleep. Um to me, like dreams are terrifying, even the non, you know, just dreams, just like random, silly stuff. Um of course I find nightmares to be terrifying. Yeah, I've had worse ones than that one.
SPEAKER_00:Anything involving a child.
SPEAKER_03:Anything having a child. Watch over a child. Does a child die? You're just so quotable. Um we should start making her shirts for Christmas.
SPEAKER_00:What's up with your shirt?
SPEAKER_03:Why are you wearing a shirt that says does a child die? Just for context, Robert. Just don't want to watch things. Oh, that's right. Yeah. We look we need like a children's chorus.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, a dead children.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So I find I find dreams creepy because I'm like, what if it's like a thing where you get you're getting a glimpse of something that's happening to like another version of yourself somewhere else. And that creeps me out. And then I was just listening today to there's another podcaster that he's kind of hokey, but he's he has a pretty good show, long-running show. His name's Jim Harold. He has Jim Harold's Campfire, where people call in and tell their scary stories. It's like usually like ghost stories or dreams or um aliens, lights in the sky, all kinds of different stuff like that. And they're I would say one out of four is really good. And so it's just enough to keep you listening. Like if you're driving for two hours, you might like you know a handful of the stories, and it's just people calling in. And then he also has one called the Paranormal, Jim Harold's Paranormal podcast, I think is all it's called. But anyway, he was interviewing this lady today. She calls herself a modern mystic, and she's an author, she's got a lot of nonfiction, but she talks a lot about dreams, and she was saying that uh we're psychic beings having a human experience. Which I feel like w in the rel in a Christian context makes a lot of sense because right now we're in these, you know, if you believe in that, you're trapped in this human body, and when you die and you go to eternity.
SPEAKER_00:It's the ultimate dream. Well No, but seriously, like I I go continue your thoughts, sorry.
SPEAKER_03:Well, but I was just saying that that actually makes a lot of sense. And she was just saying that she's of course very into dream interpretation and all that stuff, and she had like written a uh a fiction book that I might go read called Nightborn. It's supposed to be kind of scary, like a thriller. She says it's paced like a Dan Brown novel, so if you've ever read any of those, you might like it. I don't know. I'll read it and let you know, I guess.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, let me know.
SPEAKER_03:Um but she was just saying that dreams are pre-cognitive.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Which would be like you dream something happens, and then later something like that has does happen, which I my mom said, like my grandma did that several times. She wouldn't dream that something was gonna happen, and like one time she literally caught my mom sneaking out.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:She had dreamed that my mom was gonna do it, and then she did, and she caught her because she had that information. And so this this lady, I think her name is I wrote down her name. Let me look Teresa. Hold please, hold please.
SPEAKER_00:Didn't she dream that um like there were like a bunch of like skinny cows that ate a bunch of fat cows?
SPEAKER_03:See?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Teresa Chung, C-H-E-U-N-G, see who she is. I mean, I don't know that much about her, but and she was just saying, like, you can it's also not necessarily like pre-cog like you can predict the future, but like our brains are programmed to look for order and to look for meaning and to look for things and to anticipate something that's gonna happen, which is why like intuition, you know, like you're it's kind of like that gift of fear book where you're you are looking for meaning in things, and so you it but then when you go to bed at night and your brain's processing all of that stuff, it's creating scenarios that then when they happen it's because you are collecting information that you know putting it together. I mean it's crazy. It's an interesting thought.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, all the you know, the you know, they say like the entire like universe is structured just like some very similarly to how the brain is structured.
SPEAKER_03:And you know the Well, and I have another question. Sorry I keep interrupting. Well, I didn't let you interrupt me.
SPEAKER_00:But I it's it's for the best. I was gonna I every single one of these things I could take you way into space.
SPEAKER_03:So I have an outline.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um but the other thing I wanted to know is like when you think about like ghosts or demons or like people in haunted houses where they like just terrible things happen, then there's not no explanation for why. Um how much of that stuff do you think we manifest? Like a even though it's real, it's really happening, how much of it is just caused by something that you're not letting go of?
SPEAKER_00:You're saying like like uh like hypothetically, a a person who is living in a quote unquote haunted house is actually just kind of in a is a perfect storm kind of person who is able to have these sort of telekinetic incidental powers.
SPEAKER_03:More like the life they're leading is just they've either had a lot of trauma or they're the last one that my my dad listens to. Your mom will force them to force them into something further. But like they're either it's something it's something that that they have internalized that would be something negative.
SPEAKER_00:Uh I I I can't say no to anything.
SPEAKER_03:I know. But I don't I Well when you think about like the power of positive thinking and how much your life does actually change when you practice gratitude, like you've done for a while.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Um recommended gratitude journal. What is a journalist? Yes. And and uh, you know, the uh just like trying not to just just working through like things aren't about you and just like trying to find the good and everything and all that kind of stuff, like that really changes your life. And you're literally manifesting a better life for yourself because of the cognitive patterns you're trying to develop. So who's to say that by just making worse and worse and worse choices or having horrible things have happened to you that you don't deal with doesn't manifest some some of this other crazy stuff that happens to people. I I or opens them up for demons.
SPEAKER_00:There's a lot of demon attacks. There's pretty much every world religion and even non-religious folks who are maybe a little bit in more on the woo-woo side have a version of that. You know, give to the universe and it gives back, and that's sort of or you know, from a Christian perspective, prayer and and I all these things are centered around not focusing on yourself. And by focusing on and and if you think about what dreams are, we're just talking right out of our butts right now.
SPEAKER_03:No one's coming here for like PhD like that.
SPEAKER_00:When you're not dream when you're dreaming, you are for I mean, from what I know about dreaming anyway, the your external stimuli is pretty much dead. Yeah. Like you're like literally paralyzed.
SPEAKER_03:No signal, no signals are coming in.
SPEAKER_00:Your your executive function is non-existent. I mean, as far as I know anyway. I'm sure it's online, but it's different.
SPEAKER_03:It's down.
SPEAKER_00:So basically you are in a you are dead to yourself, right? Um I kind of think that dreams might possibly be the uh us trying to reconcile this three-dimensional world that I'm talking about. Not the three-dimensional world, but in comparison to the 2D one we're living in. I don't know how I'll start. Us trying to visualize life outside of Plato's cave. Yeah. I think we're trying to make sense of the shadows, if you're familiar with that analogy, and and that these crazy chaotic stuff is just us not quite being equipped to handle it. But and I think that death is where you break off of like I said, death is like the ultimate dream.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Where when you die, you no longer have a body to hold you down anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So you are free. Whatever, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you want me to tell you my scary dream story?
SPEAKER_00:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:I already told you, but I'll tell it. It was when we went to my uncle's funeral. Remember that story?
SPEAKER_00:I remember being your uncle's funeral.
SPEAKER_03:Well, when we got to the hotel, uh, we had gone to our we had gone to my cousin's house, and everybody was out, all the kids were outside playing, and then we got to the hotel and the kids were sharing a uh pullout bed, and we were all starting to drift off, and the kids were like, something's crawling on me, and then we turned on the lights and they all had like there were ticks all over their bed. Remember that? They both had ticks on them, and then I took the sheets off, and there were like two or three more ticks, and I was just like, ugh, I just had a terrible feeling. Plus, his death was just sad anyway. I mean, death is sad, but this was one of those ones that was just particularly sad. Oh, Gruber's here. Can you see him in the camera? Gruber's our dog.
SPEAKER_00:Some Hans.
SPEAKER_03:He's feeling lonely. Hey, bud. Anyway, so then I was as I was, you know, I don't sleep well the first night whenever we're somewhere else ever. It doesn't matter how great the conditions are, but then I was creeped out by the ticks. And um I fell asleep, but I had a I I you know, was I dreaming? Who knows? But I was unable to I had this sense that something came and sat down by the bed and held my arms straight out and would not let my arms.
SPEAKER_00:I remember you telling me this, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it was several minutes where I was just like re in my dream, I was thought I was awake, but I was refusing to look over there to see what it was, and I but I couldn't move my arms. And then when I woke up, I didn't want to wake everyone else up and scare everyone, so I had to like lay there. And what I always do when I have bad dreams is sing hymns, because hymns have scripture. And uh, if you can't think of scripture, you could just sing hymns because you're singing scripture and music therapizing yourself. Music therapizing myself. Um and then I didn't want to tell anyone the next day because I don't want the kids to hear me and be scared.
SPEAKER_00:But I did tell this kind of stuff freaks Clark out, by the way.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, don't listen to this, Clark. Too late. Not that he listens, not that not that our kids give a crap about what we're doing anymore. They're just like, Are you done yet so I can be loud? Um, but anyway, the but the thing that really made it the creepiest was when uh I did tell my oldest sister the next day, and she was like, you know, I wasn't gonna say anything, but when I got to the hotel, we were all staying in the same hotel, she's like, My room just felt bad, and I just played a lot of praise music and said a lot of prayers, and and I was just like, Okay, that's creepy. It's just creepy because I'm nothing like those things don't happen to me. I don't walk into rooms and feel creeped out by stuff. But I don't know what it was. It was just like, but then back to my original thing, like it was a sad time. The bugs were creeping me out, and it's like, does that kind of stuff just you cause it? You're causing it?
SPEAKER_00:I don't I see what you're saying, yeah. I maybe.
SPEAKER_03:So, like whether it's real, it's really something really happened, but is it just you know, all something you've created based on your experience? Um well, there's one other thing I was gonna say about that. I forgot.
SPEAKER_00:It's just dreams, I think, are dreams. I I I do think there is a ton. The reason I say I don't like dreams is just because it's like mostly dumb. You're gonna hear about somebody's you're gonna hear about something, it's gonna be really exciting, and you're gonna be like, oh yeah, that's right. That didn't really happen. Yeah, like I'm sure that's the way a lot of people feel about like science fiction. They're like, wow, this is a crazy book. It's the oh, this is all nonsense. No, it's like your brain, but your brain just can't, it can't do it. It can't, it can't join that make that bridge, right? I get it.
SPEAKER_03:Um Well, that lady that I was talking about, that author, she was like, it's just it breaks my heart when I hear people just dismiss it and say, well, it was just a dream.
SPEAKER_00:But I do think dreams, I think dreams in I think just the existence of dreams are almost an object lesson. Like I think that it's oh man, I I probably I I got a whole thing that ties like Job into it and all sorts of stuff. But basically, I think that like I I think that dreams almost I I do think dreams serve a purpose. I'm not saying I'm not dismissing anything we've talked about so far, and then of course the actual like whatever the medical explanation is for dreams, which no one really knows that much about dreams, honestly. Everybody's just got a bunch of well-constructed theories. But I think it is like in in in a sense, like this is pretty meta, but like an object lesson saying that there is more to our existence than our existence.
SPEAKER_02:Like we know.
SPEAKER_00:Like, kind of like in the sense of like in the way that like real life, like you know, the life that we know, you know, the the one here we are right now, sitting and talking, that life the way that bleeds in two dreams.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like, was it a Vol style? Yeah. You know, we're like, you were there, and you were there. Like, I think that that is like kind of like God's way of telling us that we are there's way more to the picture, right? And I think that's why they're so featured in the Bible and then and probably other religious texts as well. Uh but it's all very it's all super interesting to me. I think there's a whole lot to be said about dreams. I've actually written a lot on them. Um just personal journaling and whatnot. Yeah. But I think it all kind of ties into the bigger picture. I think it is our gateway to the bigger picture.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I hate other than I hate having them. I I don't feel self-serving. I don't feel as though I've rested when I wake up and can recall dreams. And I think that's just a mental game. Like I'm sure I'm rested because I think you dream every single night, whether you recall it or not. Um all right, I'm gonna switch to. Topics. Are you ready?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I'll probably bring it back to dreams, but go ahead.
SPEAKER_03:You sure can if you want. Conspiracy theories.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man. I I mean I'm just not. This whole realm.
SPEAKER_03:So let's stay on.
SPEAKER_00:We're talking like JFK or Sure, anything.
SPEAKER_03:But let's let's let's quick let's stay on the on the uh let's stay on the topic of like Area 51. Yeah, sure. But I was thinking back to that um the national parks disappearances and just like the sheer volume of people that have gone missing in national parks. And furthermore, there are cave systems under all of these national parks. And like what's going on? What's that's that's it's not really a conspiracy theory, but it's a theory that's like And it's like why was there always like two suburbans and associated with this story?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like these uh there's a satellite that's put up that wasn't there before. Yeah, that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Or like people, like mystery people come in and take over the investigation of their missing loved one and stuff. Um what was the one that I was asking you about the boots?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Do you remember enough about that to retelling?
SPEAKER_00:I just remember it was like a guy who was a backpacker. Guy went missing, no explanation, no trace. Only the only thing that were found was like just basically material possessions, but they were separated by like miles and miles of terrain. Yeah. And just gone, they'll be and just like showed up. His left boot would be there nine miles away from his belt. Or something like that. Yeah. It'd be like, and this guy was like pretty old and I don't think he was old.
SPEAKER_03:Was he? I don't know. I think he was no, I think it was odd because he was like an experienced with age.
SPEAKER_00:But it was it was it's again, it's one of those things it's like, okay, let's just say there's a perfectly practical explanation for it.
SPEAKER_03:What is it?
SPEAKER_00:What is it?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it's still gonna be pretty wild. Like it's still gonna be a crazy, crazy story, even if it's just all you know, life as we know it.
SPEAKER_03:Um yeah, there can any conspiracies that aren't necessarily paranormal related.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, you find out about the you know, conspiracies that wound up being, you know, having some truth to them, like um Tuskegee or uh I don't know that one. Like the Tuskegee Airmen or MKUltra or you know, like the government is up to some crap. And you go not even the US government.
SPEAKER_03:I wrote, definitely don't trust the government.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, don't, no, don't. Don't trust anybody.
SPEAKER_03:I trust you.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean trust people, but like you gotta trust someone.
SPEAKER_03:You gotta have a healthy dose of skepticism, the bigger the power. The more power someone has, you gotta kind of just wonder about it.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I'll die on the I don't trust the government at all.
SPEAKER_00:And no, I don't outright fight them on anything. I mean, I certainly choose my battles, and so far I have not choose.
SPEAKER_03:You haven't choosed that. You haven't choosed any of those battles.
SPEAKER_00:But like uh I can think of a battle you might wish to do. I I just know that like one thing I will say about conspiracy theories is I think the government wishes they were part no when I say the government, I just mean I think that there are these groups of powerful, you know, cloak and dagger type situational folks who who I bet they wish they were doing more stuff like that. Like I think they want to. Yeah. I don't but I in in every you know, I've worked I've had the pleasure of working in a lot of different environments, both public and private sector. And no one my gosh, I mean I was just talking about this in my evaluation. You know, my boss asked me what you know what what we could stand to improve on. I'm like, same answer for every company I've ever worked for, communication. Do we do not talk to each other? Humans are incapable of doing these things.
SPEAKER_03:I think it requires humility that as a rule a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00:If the government is up to conspiracies that are, you know, on this level of alien, hide hiding aliens and hiding Bigfoot or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:But they're getting some help though. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like they're they've they've they have they they're not regular people. Because regular people suck and they cannot get their crap together. They're just gonna blow it. They can't hide they all have sociopathy, sociopathy, even still, we we've we've had the fine pleasure of being being close to sociopaths, and and uh I I know I have, and they eventually fall apart, unravel. They do. And these folks have not unraveled, at least in this these big, you know, huge target conspiracy theories that we're talking about.
SPEAKER_03:Well, there's I haven't I wanted I was hoping to watch it before we recorded this, but there's just no way that um I guess I'm just saying, real quick, just to put a bow on it.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think humans are capable of conspiracy theories at the of the levels that we're discussing without some sort of extra something, whether it be a piece of technology or a divine intervention or whatever that would allow them to do it. But on their own, I think like the the Tower of Babel is is is uh says a lot more than just a bunch of people that try to build a tower. I think it's a object and again another object lesson of humans suck at coordinating things, yeah, especially things they don't want people to know. Oh, whoa, creepy.
SPEAKER_03:It's like being a trick with me the other day. The other day we were at church and Rol's phone.
SPEAKER_00:How much of this was it listening to? I don't know. Speaking of conspiracy, no doubt.
SPEAKER_03:See, that's a that's a real thing. Larry Page That's not even a conspiracy, that's a provable thing that your phone is listening to you. Um I remember the first time that ever happened. Do you remember that? The first time I ever noticed it. We were at the beach, okay, and I was talking about uh young adult dystopian novels. Just with you. We were literally on the beach, and my phone was just in our bag, and we were just talking about that. And I went back, opened up Pinterest, and everything on my feed was like recommending these books, and I was like, what that was like 15 years ago?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That was a long time ago. I think it was Baldhead, so um, before Cape Fear was shot.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. It was shot at Bald Island.
SPEAKER_00:Well, uh Cape Fear is probably by Baldhead Island.
SPEAKER_03:But was it actually shot then? Weekend of Bernie's and Weekend of Bernie's was actually shot about it. Um, that's this documentary that I wanted to watch that we didn't get to watch yet. I will be talking about Consumption Corner, is the Age of Disclosure. Is that so it's about the U I means this guy goes and interviews all these high-ranking government officials who are willing to go on camera and say what they've seen, all this alien technology, but part of it overlaps with the government conspiracies because they're doing it all without any oversight and spending money that they have no accountability. So it's like the ultimate combination of alien conspiracy, government cover-up, and then government spending of the of civilian dollars, taxpayers' money at work with nobody. Yeah. Well, and it's just like they because the he was on Joe Rogan and they were talking about like they just need to have amnesty for these people so that they can because if nobody wants to go on record because they're the crimes against the country. But if they give them amnesty, then they can release this information more comfortably without going to prison for stealing from the United States.
SPEAKER_00:Who's giving them amnesty?
SPEAKER_03:They were just saying they need to, I'm assuming the government.
SPEAKER_00:I see. I see what you're saying. There needs to be like some sort of whistleblower type.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, protection for the yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03:But it's just I really want to watch it, I'm really excited about it. I'm just gonna do that.
SPEAKER_00:Again, I do think just there is I mean, my m m I mean They're out there. I want to talk I I d uh I don't even yeah. I could talk honestly, I could talk for hours about why I think our existence is not what we think it is. But I mean that's kind of that is of all the things that I believe, that is probably the biggest one, right? Like which is wild to say actually say that I believe that is very crazy. But and and I do it's not like I walk around having the I still have to like go to work, right?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, which brings us to our song.
SPEAKER_00:But I could get it, yeah. Okay, let's do that.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. Because uh the song is it's baby, it's cold outside. And it's you know, it's just a common everyday mundane things, you know. It's cold outside, they went on a date, she's ready to go home, he wants her to stay. Uh uh enter, you know, the the era of I don't even know what you want to call it, where they uh canceled that song, the cancelled era. So they canceled that song a couple years ago.
SPEAKER_00:Was it canceled? I remember I remember being you you're way more in tune with stuff than I am.
SPEAKER_03:Um but I'm not seeking it out just so everyone knows. Like you said, kind of rapey.
SPEAKER_00:I don't mean to laugh at that.
SPEAKER_03:Uh however, she does stay for a drink and a cigarette.
SPEAKER_00:So I mean, who's right, so it was written from what I could tell, by Frank Looser? I would say Lesser. Lesser? Yeah. Okay, let's go with that.
SPEAKER_03:L-O-E-S-S-E-R. I think when you have those two vowels together, usually you might pronounce the second one if it's German.
SPEAKER_00:He wrote it in in apparently he wrote it in 1944.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. And then they put it in a movie.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Neptune's Daughter, 1949. But he wrote it, he and his wife used to sing it when they'd have guests over.
SPEAKER_03:Apparently Was it like the it's time for you to leave? It's time for you guys to leave.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And so, you know, that doesn't necessarily I mean, of course, if like all the stuff that we sing in our kitchen when we're by ourselves, like yeah, we sing some creepy, weird, messed up stuff. Like, so that's so it's not exactly a reason of why that's not what the original intent was.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But we do kind of get into this. First of all, I just think that's a funny story about it's about where it started. But there's something, and I'm not I'm not giving anybody a pass. I realize that there's some creepiness going on, like Ricardo Montebon touching the what's her face's knee, and you know, and yeah, for sure. But like the whole you know I'm fascinated by like the evolution of language, yes and in terms like John McWarter, in and uh who's a professor, professor, professor of language, or I don't know what you want to call him. He's he's I I think he's fascinating. I think he's super interesting. Um he talks about the term making love. He talks about what it meant sixty years ago was made may basically like flirting, like like literally making love, like ro like courting, like romantic gestures and that sort of thing. And now it means something, you know, quite quite uh a bit more carnal, right?
SPEAKER_03:Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00:I gotta think that there is some of that going on.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yes, and the song's essentially 80 years old now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like like what's in this drink, like I don't think it's like a roofing, like like a like uh picture pages, you know, like a Bill Cosby situation. I think it's like uh not that he did that on picture pages as far as I know, but like I think it's probably more like a plausible deniability kind of thing, where she's like, hey, what's in this drink? I I can't be blamed for whatever decisions I'm about to make. Again, that's not me victim blame or anything like that, because nothing happened, right? And by the way, and it's a song, but I've thought a lot about it because I one thing I thought was I found interesting was that what's his name, Red Red Skeleton? Yeah. I didn't know that in this song it has an immediate counterpart of a of a woman singing it to a man. Like the woman is.
SPEAKER_03:That was just in the movie, though. That wasn't the original. Pretty sure that that was they did that in the movie. But still, but still it was it was contemporary to when it was written.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and I g it's all I think I guess my my whole thing, I don't mean to like come in hot on this. I just think I think it's probably a lot lighter than everybody thinks it is. This is kind of tongue in cheek. Trying to like apply today's culture to something that existed a long time ago.
SPEAKER_03:Also, they already went out. It's not like he's like kidnapping her. Yeah, it's like the end of the day.
SPEAKER_00:Also, she's totally down.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Like, I think the I think it's it's probably the biggest issue in the whole song is probably more of like a wake up a little Susie kind of situation where they're just worried about what people are gonna think. Yeah, you know, like I really think that's what it's about, honestly.
SPEAKER_03:But song wake up the day.
SPEAKER_00:I love the Everlade Brothers, but that's probably one of my least favorite Everly Brothers songs.
SPEAKER_03:I just remember it because my mom used to sing it because she has a sister called that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah. So why'd you choose it?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I've been wanting to sing that with you for so long.
SPEAKER_00:Did it I this song was this is the toughest song I've done.
SPEAKER_03:Since we started this?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Because I don't know it that well. I mean, I've heard it a million times, but I've never paid any attention to it. I've heard like Dean Martin's version. What's the version, Johnny Mercer?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:What are all the women who sing these parts with them? I I'm sorry I know all the dudes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't remember any of them either.
SPEAKER_00:Um we listened to Tom Jones. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03:It's the other crazy lady.
SPEAKER_00:Cirus uh what's her name?
SPEAKER_03:Cloud? Cirrus Cloud?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's Cumulus, I think. Oh, Cumulan Nimbus. That's that was it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Cumulinimbus.
SPEAKER_00:No, she was uh like a Welsh singer. That was great.
SPEAKER_03:It was ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00:It was absurd. It was what I wanted it to be.
SPEAKER_03:If you haven't seen that, you guys are.
SPEAKER_00:It's like Tom Jones in some late 90s computer hellscape situation where she's in a cage.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And like he's just full-blown sex bomb Tom Jones going at it. It looks like a scene from Little Nikki or something. It's just like so stupid. But it's great. It's everything I wanted it to be.
SPEAKER_03:And it's kind of jazzy and fun. And I mean it's it's uh musical adjacent, I would say.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, but like like a musical.
SPEAKER_03:Like it's has it has the bones of a song from a musical. Because it's you know, it's not um like you can't sing it alone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you can't.
SPEAKER_03:Because I've wanted to practice alone. I've w I've wanted to. But it really you really need both parts.
SPEAKER_00:And the cues happen like at the end of the overlapping phrases. Yeah, the phrases it's really tricky to practice by yourself.
SPEAKER_01:It is.
SPEAKER_00:And and all the jazz chords. Like I played it on guitar. If you listen to the recording, I played like half of the song because I took it out.
SPEAKER_03:I was like, that went really well, and you were like, well, I only played half of it. I was like, oh.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's just uh you get I I don't know it too well, and I don't know going between F sharp or freaking boy, we played it in F, right? So uh F to F to F major seven to F six to F9 to adding all those adding tones, yeah. Going in and out of all those, and then while also trying to find the lyrics on the page and you know make sure I'm singing into the mic and I'm all cramped up in this freaking closet.
SPEAKER_03:You guys it was a miracle, I think.
SPEAKER_00:Stay tuned, the closet's gonna come to an end. If I could just sing that song, like with a mic, yeah, I think I could do it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, see that's how I feel about like singing is my very favorite thing to do, and anytime I get the chance to just sing is very freeing. But I almost never get to because no one knows how to play instruments anymore. So I'm always the person that's like, I'll play the piano.
SPEAKER_00:If I just played guitar on that, I think. One or the other would have been better. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I feel that way a lot about my performances. Like, I'm sure like everybody's like, yeah, everyone out there that's an amazing musician can do both without worry, but I'm not a headline and you know, A-list musician.
SPEAKER_00:Also, did I mean when I practiced that we practiced that song a couple times?
SPEAKER_03:You practiced it more than me.
SPEAKER_00:I did, but I've played it before. Yeah. And and you read music.
SPEAKER_03:And I read music.
SPEAKER_00:I do not. So Yeah, you were like, you're doing so well.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm like, well, I'm just reading it. I'm literally just reading it. And I'm on the piano, which I'm more comfortable with.
SPEAKER_00:But is it tricky? Is it tricky? I could not play that guy. It's the toughest song we've done so far.
SPEAKER_03:I could not play that on the guitar without a lot of practice, if that makes you feel better.
SPEAKER_00:Makes me feel fine.
SPEAKER_03:But I loved it, and I would love to do it again sometime where you're feeling more comfortable and singing a bit more um hilariously.
SPEAKER_00:I I wanted to, I wanted to, I wasn't, I didn't know it well enough to. I really want to go, um, dun dun, your hair looks so what's it? What's the word what's the word?
SPEAKER_03:Something like ice.
SPEAKER_00:I'll take your hat, your hair looks well. I want to say, it puts the lotion on its skin.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I wanted to know.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead, shows your balls.
SPEAKER_03:I don't wonder what they're singing. Oh, yeah, pretty good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. There's that, it's there's so for the listeners at home. The the what's the name of that ride? Splash Mountain.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's gone now.
SPEAKER_00:The pretty good show is your born. My brother and I, every time we wrote it, we'd always sing Pretty Good, Show As Your Balls, and we'd just laugh. The whole song, we'd be like the whole time we'd just be yelling it in the middle of the ride. And uh, but there's there's that am I saying to right those intervals that kind of match that same thing?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean I think it is, it's the same melodic line.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, or it's uh um it goes to the E seven.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, E flat.
SPEAKER_00:E flat, I'm not even gonna try.
SPEAKER_03:Dun dun dun.
SPEAKER_00:At the end, toward the end. Um baby don't hold out. Yeah. Yeah. It's anyways, it's show us your balls somewhere in there.
SPEAKER_03:Somewhere's in there. I think it's your part that goes da-da da da dum, and then we go back. It's like it brings us back around to the ball.
SPEAKER_00:But that's another thing, but then I have to do the um baby, it's called outside.
SPEAKER_03:You mean sing harmony?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was a chromatic kind of like that's all of this was very foreign to me.
SPEAKER_03:Pushing yourself, Rob.
SPEAKER_00:I'm growing.
SPEAKER_03:You are proud of you.
SPEAKER_00:I'm growing.
SPEAKER_03:I only wanted to murder you like a little bit when we were practicing this the other day.
SPEAKER_00:What what part? Or like what what about what made you want to murder me?
SPEAKER_03:I just wanted you to read what was on the page. And you just wanted to tell me why you couldn't do it. And I just wanted to hit you in the face. I was like, the chords are right here. What do you think I'm doing? You're like, well, I'm looking at it I'm like, well then can you just look at this? Can we just look at the same music? And I was telling that to my sister, my mom. My sister's like, you're mean. I'm like, well, that isn't news.
SPEAKER_00:You I mean, it's it's one reason. It's that same reason is why I like to play with you, uh, especially at band practice at like a church, because you uh give good instruction and you're there's no second guessing. No one no one no one's sitting there wondering what you want.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:I don't you know It makes you s people don't respond well to it, especially some people, but it is what an effective leader is, and you're a good leader.
SPEAKER_03:Thanks. I don't have secret knowledge though. It's just Right. It's just a language, I guess I know.
SPEAKER_00:You you're sick of people. I I the one of my favorite stories is uh you know Steve Ray Vaughn, or listening to Steve Ray Von Texas Flood, I think, and it was like a remastered version where he's talking on it and he says, Well, since I can't read music, and Leslie's like he's talking about the way he plays by ear. And Leslie's like, that's you know, BS. He can read music, he chooses not to learn. He just chose not to learn.
SPEAKER_03:I have big feelings about certain things.
SPEAKER_00:Like, I chose not to learn too.
SPEAKER_03:I know we're breaking up. All right, do we want to talk B sides and dream covers, or do you have anything else you want to say about that?
SPEAKER_00:Oh boy, did I have other things? I really liked uh Ricardo Modelbank I liked uh I wanted to hear him scream. Khan at the end of it. Have you ever seen uh you ever see Rathicon?
SPEAKER_03:I don't think so. Would my dad have oh yeah?
SPEAKER_00:Um or the night I think it was it was in the original series. There was an episode. Rath of con came out of I'm talking about did I say I was talking about Star Trek? Okay, so it came out of it has nothing to do with this. You know what? I probably shouldn't.
SPEAKER_03:But that's that's okay.
SPEAKER_00:So you know you in uh what's what are we watching? Strange New Worlds? Yeah. Who's the security girl?
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, I know Dark Woman.
SPEAKER_00:She's one of Khan's people. Right, right. Right. So did you get the Noon Singh or is that what it is?
SPEAKER_03:Yep, that's her last name, but what's her first name?
SPEAKER_00:Say I don't know. I don't know. She's not in the song. She can sing though. The musical, the musical episode of uh Star Trek. Maybe we should do that one. Oh my gosh. I got it.
SPEAKER_03:The whole episode, we should just do the whole episode. We should just sing entire episode.
SPEAKER_00:Well, cover it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, I thought that's what you meant.
SPEAKER_00:No, I meant like talk about it. Like over the entire episode. Um it's what's your favorite version?
SPEAKER_03:That one that I liked, the Johnny Mercer one.
SPEAKER_00:Johnny Mercer one. I think Tom Jones is my favorite one.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that was fun. Had a lot of fun with that.
SPEAKER_00:What other ones did what's the uh what's the frozen Josh Gadd? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. She's got a heck of a voice.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I Adina Menzel or Kristen Chenoweth?
SPEAKER_00:She did it with Michael Buble.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I thought it was good. I like Michael Buble. It's uh Does Harry Conick have a version out there with somebody?
SPEAKER_00:I'm sure. I'm sure. There's no way he didn't. Uh Will Farrell and uh Zoe De Chanel.
SPEAKER_03:Um is that from Elf?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's cute.
SPEAKER_00:I would like to.
SPEAKER_03:I thought you were gonna say the girl that he does wedding singer, the wedding group with on Saturday Night Live.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Sherry O'Terry?
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no. It's like on a uh on a gas star.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Also I thought you were gonna say it for sometimes when I'm when I'm watching, when I'm doing the editing and watching us, I I I can't help but think of Wolf and a Cast Star.
SPEAKER_03:Like, what are we doing? I feel like that like regularly at work. Like, what am I doing?
SPEAKER_00:Uh whatever, who cares? None of this is real anyway. We're all just a freaking paper plate.
SPEAKER_03:That's right, we're just paper plate people.
SPEAKER_00:We're just paper plate people.
SPEAKER_03:We're like that Sesame Street where that guy lives on the glass.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I love that dude. Me too. And he lives in the cabinet and he kind of drops down and goes, Yeah, that guy's awesome.
SPEAKER_03:Um a lot of Sesame Street references.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, it's aging ourselves.
SPEAKER_03:Uh or dating ourselves.
SPEAKER_00:We can move on to We can move on. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. All right.
SPEAKER_00:I I've really struggled with B-side, but I uh uh Should we should we explain real quick that we we got some categories of of the songs that we do and we kind of like to have some fun with it. So that's what this is. We'll be the perfect B-side for. I struggled with it.
SPEAKER_03:What'd you come up with?
SPEAKER_00:Well, the first thing that came to mind is not what I'm gonna pick, but I'll mention it. Okay. Are you familiar with um I Can Tell by the 504 Boys?
SPEAKER_01:You ain't gotta say too much by the look in your body.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Kind of thought about that. That's not gonna get I'm not gonna choose that.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Uh it's a good one though.
SPEAKER_00:Is it a good one? Is it? I thought uh Slow Boat to China, you know that song? Oh, I didn't know. It's a Frank Lesser song.
SPEAKER_03:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00:And Caroline and I, it's another kind of Caroline and I were listening to it in the car. I was listening to like 40s on four or something on yeah. And it's about I want to get you on a slow boat to China all to myself.
SPEAKER_03:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I guess we were making up lyrics to it, and they're just very like very Buffalo Bill Science of the Lamb style.
SPEAKER_03:So is that what you choose?
SPEAKER_00:No, but that that one I liked it because it's written by the same guy, same era. Bing Crosby, I think, does the most well-known version of it. Um, and it's also kind of has that sort of like uncanny valley of creepiness, but it's not probably actually supposed to be creepy. We just think it is because we're creepy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. We're applying our own filter to it.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna say the thing I arrived on is a Jamie Buffett song. Why don't we get drunk?
SPEAKER_03:Wow, that's great.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you know the rest.
SPEAKER_03:I do know the rest.
SPEAKER_00:It's a family station though, so you can go look it up yourself. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But uh don't you think not with your family.
SPEAKER_00:It's kind of got that, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They're they're having a good time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I never came up with three. They're drinking and they're you came up with three, so I feel like that's good enough.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you you don't have nothing?
SPEAKER_03:No. Because I kept going, I was going for the duet angle. And I couldn't come up with anything that wasn't just like another random version of that song.
SPEAKER_00:Hmm. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:That's okay. It's it was tough.
SPEAKER_03:I think I do have other You can have the 504 Boys.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Actually, you can have Master P's version of the 504 Boys song? Yeah, you ain't gotta say too much.
SPEAKER_03:I've never heard that.
SPEAKER_00:With Miss Chi. It's pretty much like the it's pretty much exactly like the 504 Boys version.
SPEAKER_03:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:I think he actually produced the 504 boys.
SPEAKER_03:And then he was like, you know what, I want to do this myself. Yeah. I don't know which came first.
SPEAKER_00:It really doesn't matter. Um I don't know why I know so much. I don't even like No Limit Records.
SPEAKER_03:But Yeah, I hate No Limit Records.
SPEAKER_00:I like some of it, I like some mystical.
SPEAKER_03:I do like no idea what that even is.
SPEAKER_00:Make him say, uh, I I love that song. I do. It's I like Bow About It.
SPEAKER_03:What's the one song that I like May Crack? What's the song that uh dope sh what's a girl from Super Bad? What's her real name?
SPEAKER_00:Emma Stone.
SPEAKER_03:What's the one she did lip syncing?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Blue Strap.
SPEAKER_03:And uh no. And they stay there. Make your hands go up and they stay there. You know that song. She does a rat like she lip synks the sort of thing. Doesn't she do uh she does do the blue trap. Yeah, hook, but she does this other one too.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Um, she's hilarious. She's pretty good. Okay. So who would you like to hear cover this song?
SPEAKER_00:You go first, I'll find whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I have two. Can I say two?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And they're both from the same universe.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So the first one is I would like to see various members uh yeah, everyone from the Guardians of the Galaxy crew get a line in. And the and I would like to have I would like Dax to be the um Drax? Drax to be the main guy.
SPEAKER_00:To be the the the Ricardo or the the uh Johnny Mercy. But then there would be like little lines where he's singing to like Mantis?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But there would be like all the characters, but all the characters would have like a little cameo where they would sing a couple lines to each other. Like the ones where she's like kind of like acting like she really doesn't want to stay, that could be um Gamora. Gamora and Chris, whatever his name star Star Lord.
SPEAKER_00:Star Lord.
SPEAKER_03:What's his name though? What do they really call him?
SPEAKER_00:Um like the actors?
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no. What's his real name? Not Star Lord.
SPEAKER_00:Oh crap. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so anyway, wouldn't that be great? Yeah. And that's that also is my soundtrack.
SPEAKER_00:Like they also have Christmas specials.
SPEAKER_03:Right. That's what made me think of it.
SPEAKER_00:I like that one actually. Kevin Bacon.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:It's pretty good.
SPEAKER_03:So wouldn't that be great? That would be also be the cover, like the soundtrack, the movie scene that we go with. They would do that.
SPEAKER_00:Nice.
SPEAKER_03:But then the other one from the same universe that I thought would be great would be Deadpool and Wolverine.
SPEAKER_00:That would be good. So we were kind of in the same sort of space.
SPEAKER_03:What a surprise.
SPEAKER_00:Uh, because I was trying to think of I'm like, gosh, I'd really like to see Jessica Rabbit sing this one. Oh my gosh. But I'm like, I Roger Rabbit couldn't pull it off. How about we just have uh Daffy Duck sing at the Donald Duck? You have ridiculous. Just absurd.
SPEAKER_03:We're just gonna throw like Jessica Rabbit, the actual lounge singer, out the window.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she used my one of my first uh crushes. Yeah, definitely cartoon crush.
SPEAKER_03:Um, yeah, she wasn't real.
SPEAKER_00:She, well, she I mean, Plato's cave, right?
SPEAKER_03:I'm not bad. I'm just John.
SPEAKER_00:I have uh who else I put on here? Uh I'd like to see Lumiere sing it to the feather duster.
SPEAKER_03:Wow, what's wrong with us?
SPEAKER_00:I'd like to sing uh I'd like to uh uh maybe like um uh what's his name, Dennis Edwards or or David Ruffin sing it to Diana Ross.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Um I'm gonna make you love me.
SPEAKER_01:Um I love that song.
SPEAKER_00:But that's Diana Ross and Exceptations. David Ruffin, I think, just left the group right before the I think it was Dennis Edwards from the Concords came on. The You broke my heart, because I couldn't dance. My mom loves that song. Um but uh I think I had one more.
SPEAKER_03:What about soundtrack too?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I would like kind of in the same vein of how Red's Red Skelton was the kind of the, if you'll forgive me, the woman in that scenario. I would like for Kathy Bates to sing it to James Conn in the misery.
SPEAKER_03:I love it. Because he's trying to leave and she's when they wouldn't even have to she wouldn't even have to be singing it. They could just be playing it while he's trying to get out and she's preventing him. Yeah, he didn't do it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, in misery. But it'd be great if they did. I think it's perfect for misery.
SPEAKER_03:I think that's a good one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was proud of it. I like I'm very comfortable with my own head.
SPEAKER_03:I I don't have a lot going on in my It's nonsense. It's not nonsense. Listen to the consumption corner every week where you're like, You ever heard of those? And I'm like, No. No. You've seen that? No.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, but it's because I'm like it's because I get up at five in the morning to watch There Will Be Blood.
SPEAKER_03:Humble Bragg.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm I'm I so for those the the for the folks at home, one of these movies, of the three movies that I watched, of the seven hours of movies that I watched, or how what's the math on that? I don't know. Closer to eight. Uh only only about an hour and a half, two hours were spent actually sitting down and watching a movie. The rest, I was like on the exercise bike, yeah. Or making coffee or doing the dishes. Yeah. Or, you know, I try to pick movies.
SPEAKER_03:I was just sleeping during all that.
SPEAKER_00:I try to pick movies that aren't that I could that I could listen to, like movies that are known to be pretty dialogue heavy, so that if I turn my head, I'm not exactly missing something. Yeah. Or like they're an action-packed. Otherwise, I want to save those for or a movie that I would watch with you. Yeah. So I will probably go lighter next time around. I gotta watch Happy Go More too.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I'll probably watch that. I may watch some like just some like vinegar syndrome type, you know, six stream samurai or something like that, like a just a movie that you'd have no like a B movie that's just you know, with a dolomite looks like it's freaking citizen cane compared to something like that.
SPEAKER_03:Speaking of of uh the song and and shutting things down.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, we shutting things down.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I just wanted to it is, it's about that time, but I also turned it off by now. I wanted to tell you a funny story that I thought you would appreciate, and it's very uh apropos. Do tell my friend's in-laws they go there for Thanksgiving and everyone brings one thing. They arrive, they eat, but the hostess, the in-law that is the hostess, eats before everyone gets there so that she can just serve everyone, and then while everyone is eating, she cleans everything up and then turns off all the lights and tells everyone it's time to go. For Thanksgiving dinner.
SPEAKER_00:Who is this?
SPEAKER_03:An an in-law of a friend.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. That's really something. She has a sister.
SPEAKER_03:She was I was asking her what she's gonna do for Thanksgiving, and she said that um that was what they were gonna do, but it would probably only take them two hours. At most three. Oh.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's our cue.
SPEAKER_03:That's alright. We're still we're still recording all the time. I never plugged it in.
SPEAKER_00:I'm such an idiot.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, dag. That's right, we're done.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we're done.
SPEAKER_03:All right.
SPEAKER_00:It's good.
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