The Audience Won't Like It

Sister Act 2 Still Works but the Plot Does Not & Yoshimi's Robots | Ep 29

Rob and Leslie Shoecraft

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We bounce from our weekly media spiral into a full Sister Act 2 rewatch and realize the movie’s logic barely holds together while the music still hits like a freight train. We end by nerding out over The Flaming Lips “Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots Part 1” and why certain chords and choices make a song feel huge.
• our ongoing struggle to get to the main topic
• watching Raging Bull in short “bike movie” chunks
• quick book follow-ups and library discoveries
• City Of Angels as a musical and why the soundtrack works
• Sister Act 2 plot basics and the “save the school” template
• the opening medley and why the performances carry the film
• the funniest plot holes we cannot stop noticing
• why key changes feel like a superpower
• the finale reveal and the all-time great credits ending
• covering “Yoshimi” and breaking down the guitar and keys choices
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Basement Banter And The Theme

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On this episode of The Audience Will Like It, fair amount of time. She has a really nice team. I wonder Star Trek.

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She has a way of smiling at the characters that make them feel seen, which I know sounds like the dumbest thing ever, but it does. It feels like if she smiled at you like that, you'd be like, She understands me. She went to the high school. She says that I went to high school there. Why doesn't she know where any of the classrooms are at? Oh, I wrote music equals drugs. They basically treat music like like the mom treats her one to sing like she's doing crack cooking. Did you like it then?

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Yeah, I liked it.

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Did you think it was cheesy?

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Yes. Not nearly as cheesy as I thought it was last night.

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Yeah, so the children were both born to this song.

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Kind of, yeah.

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For sure, they definitely came out when this song was playing. The New York Times games.

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Yeah. Hi. I got a special little theme song for you. Ooh.

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Is it special?

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It's not.

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Oh, well then I guess I will.

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You just want to keep looking at what are you looking at in New York Times?

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I was just pulling up my notes for today.

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Shh.

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Quiet now.

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Okay.

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I shut you in the last one. It was pretty funny. I laughed.

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Oh. Did I respond?

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You respond by doing what you're supposed to do.

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Be quiet.

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Shutting your mouth right up.

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Right up. I'm gonna touch my microphone. La la la la la.

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Alright, and here we go.

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Here we go.

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Two married friends in a basement room. Standing in line with two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arms. He kissed her lips cause she was still warm. The audience won't like it. No, no, they won't ever.

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Hi, everybody. Hi, Gruber. Hi. Our dog's here.

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Dog is here.

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I took his picture. I could feature him in the Insta post.

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We didn't have uh couldn't get Uncle Dan down here, so we settled for uh Gruber.

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And he's done.

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He's leaving. He's he's done.

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Welcome to the audience won't like it. I'm Leslie Shoecroft.

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I'm Rob Shoecroft, her husband. Yeah. What are you looking at? Is that red light always on there? It is, right?

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The one that indicates that's recording?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, pretty sure.

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Good.

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You learn new things every day when you host a podcast. It is a lot with a video camera. Life would be a lot easier if we weren't putting this on YouTube.

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Um, if we just talked?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it is.

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Like you're always trying to make it harder.

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The YouTube thing was like, well, it'd be cool to have videos if we ever get some traction. Which yet to come.

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No.

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Oh.

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Yet to come. Like I'm just saying. There's like don't get excited. There's no reveal.

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We're just hopeful for traction.

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We're just sli slipping and sliding everywhere.

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It's like a nice world video.

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Like YouTube would be like a nice secondary thing. And that was also we started the YouTube thing because I want to do covers of songs. And you can't do that on Patreon. You can't do it on Spotify. Hey, real quick. Hey guys, welcome. This is Rob Shoecraft and Leslie Shoecraft is the audience will be.

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We already said that. And then we had to take a break to determine whether or not that red light man we were recording. We decided that yes, it does mean that.

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Ah, think of this.

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And then you said something about being in an ice cream. A video game Ice World. And I was trying to remember what video games have ice worlds where you're slipping around.

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Uh I believe uh Is that a Mario? Mario Brothers, I think Super Mario World does. Okay. Maybe even then you know what the third one does too.

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Yeah.

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It's uh dunno no no no no no.

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No, that's not that's the under the ground layer. That's not.

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Yeah, but I I think they applied that same music to the Guess we'll find out on Instagram.

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Go to Instagram if you want to. Corrections corner, yeah.

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That's where you find out things like this. I owe you a corrections corner from last for the one that's being published tomorrow.

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Yeah, you sure do. Good. Make sure it's a little shorter though, because it did not like all of your comments. Didn't like all of them?

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I had to put it in two separate shorter like explanation ones. Yeah.

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I had to put it your comments, corner, commentary into the comments. Two comments deep. So many captions and the top two comments.

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That's crazy.

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I know so many C words.

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I broke it this one weird trick is how I broke Instagram.

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I don't even know how to use it. And I broke it.

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I don't actually know. No.

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That was part of the job.

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It's so funny. Hey guys, welcome. This is Always Will Like It. This is Rob Schuhcraft. Oh my god.

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This is the third time you've done that. Is that a more clause? This is crazy.

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Almost like I'm doing it on purpose. Some sort of joke, some sort of bit.

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Yeah, we like to put simulate waiting in line.

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This is a line simulation.

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Who are we waiting on to see this time?

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Uh we are waiting for flaming lips.

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That's right. You think there's gonna be any furries there?

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I do.

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Yeah. Yeah. You can't have a flaming lips contest contest without a furry contest.

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You've uh you've waited in line to see the flaming lips twice. Uh-huh.

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And I've also waited in line to meet Wayne.

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Oh, you met Wayne?

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Yeah, I met Wayne and Beck, remember?

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Oh, that's right. Yeah.

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I think that's where Laura got the CD that's gonna be featured in our Instagram post. If you guys want to see somebody's picture of a CD that they got signed by Wayne.

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Oh, yeah. And he wrote uh Hey Laura. Hey Laura. Oh my gosh. That was my name.

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Yeah, yeah. So anyway, it's so but it won't actually here's the thing. It's not going to be the flaming lips. By the time you get to the end of this podcast, you've waited in line for hopefully less than 90 minutes, but probably more like an hour and 45 to 50 minutes. It's not gonna be a uh the flaming lips, it's gonna be me and Rob.

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It's gonna be us. It is. I'm Rob Shoecraft, this is Lessa Shoecraft.

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This is uh welcome to the audience won't like it.

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Partly the flaming lips, half flaming lips, half half furries waiting in line making small talk.

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Oh my gosh. Can furries make small talk with their masks on? The big head things?

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Yeah, I think like the bird kind can.

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Okay.

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They just have it's easier to make their mouths move. Oh, okay, like Big Bird. Big Bird.

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Uh are the Sesame Street puppets considered furries?

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

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Like the original furries.

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Yeah, the original one.

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If you're a furry, let us know. Or the Sesame Street Muppets, the original furries.

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What was uh what was uh Mr. Hooper? Yeah, he was a regular person. Yeah, but he was big into the he was huge in the furry scene.

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Poor Mr. Hooper.

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He's not even around to defend himself. That episode Mr. Hooper died.

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Ugh.

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Dude. Man. Did you ever seen that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. I feel like I saw it alive. Like uh in real time, right? Did he die before we were born?

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No, it was pretty way back. Oh no, no, he but he might have been, it might have been when we were alive.

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Alive enough to be watching it?

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I saw it for the first time when we were watching Sesame Street with our with our little kids. And it was like a best of Sesame Street. Maybe that's when I saw it. And I was like, holy smokes, man.

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Guys, sit down for that one. Very serious.

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Sad.

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If you're already going through something in your life, maybe skip that. Mr.

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Hooper can be at our concert, right?

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Oh, he can sell the merch.

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Yeah, told Mr. Hooper! He can handle the furry, he can be on furry crowd control. We will have quite a few.

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Okay. Um but he was a store owner.

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Hey, listen. He's gonna be happy to be there, all right? Mr. Hooper. Don't get greedy with your with your job duties. You're cruel, you're beloved, but you're not you don't get to pick.

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My beloved.

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George Sakai wants you to be to to corral the curries, so that's what you're doing.

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The curries. The curries.

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I love that. Did I say the curries?

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You did. Got Indian on the brain.

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I think uh by the time we figure out how to resurrect all these great dead. We are having a concert, by the way. Yeah. Hey guys.

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Don't say it.

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We're having a concert uh with a bunch of uh mainly a bunch of uh dead, a bunch of late celebrities and uh mainly musicians. But there are some strictly celebs in there.

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Actors, a few actors, poopers. Yeah, furries, furries, some dead furries.

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Yeah. Uh all right. Well, there are a lot of furries at the uh we're we're not gonna get to flaming lips yet, are we?

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No, no, no, no. No, we'll talk about that at the end. Yeah. That's the way this goes. We talk a little bit about nothing for about way too long. Then we have a main topic that we talk about today. We'll be talking about it, and then we'll we'll wrap it up with a little music talk.

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We'll be ready to be done by then.

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I will be. Probably like ten minutes before we get to flaming lips, my brain will be like on red alert, like I I was l listening to uh the rewatchables the other day, which I brought up a million times. I I tagged them once, so they never re-tagged. That's insane. You think they're following us or not? I'm not sure.

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An opportunity to get uh to get some what's he doing?

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I don't know, he's on the move. Gruber, come here, buddy.

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For those who are uh just listening, we have a dog.

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He they the people who are watching also can't see the dog, just say no.

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For those who are watching, we have a dog. You can know that too.

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We're petting him.

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He's the uh super furry, he's all in. He is a furry. He's all in. So uh they were talking about the different times of what what uh in which they get like Chris Ryan was saying, like, at about and about 90 minutes in, I'm or maybe it was an hour in. That's either when he that's either when he's getting going or when he's checked out. It's one of the two. But when the other ones had like the inverse, they were just kind of talking about it. Reminded me of I mean, I'm always on.

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Right.

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Like, yeah.

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Always uh and I'm like rarely on.

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I just no, you honestly are at about 90 minutes, you're like, and bye.

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Sorry, I know myself very well.

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It's sort of funny, but I always feel bad that I'm the uh origin of your frustration. So I apologize. And I I'm just not sure why we never why it takes so long to get to it. I don't know either.

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No idea.

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I've introduced I introducted myself six to seven times as you're supposed to for people just tuning in. Hey guys, by the way, if you're just tuning in.

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Don't say it. Nobody's just tuning in. We're not live broadcast. And we're back.

Movies Books And Library Finds

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All right.

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Well, what have you been up to this week that you want to tell the folks?

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Well, I uh he's probably not gonna say, Oh, you can stop petting me now.

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No, but you can pet and talk. Well then stop petting him because I started what sniffing your arm. Aww. Just talk.

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I was watching Raging I watched Raging Raging Bull. That was my exercise. Is your bike movie? My bike movie. Bike movie is uh movie I tend to watch in 15 to 30 minute increments. Sometimes I teal a little bit and I watch it while I'm getting ready in the morning.

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Oh, that's fine.

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So I have like my phone and I put it on the windowsill and then I'll put it by the coffee and I put it up by the.

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That's what I do a lot when I'm cleaning up the dishes. I watch it.

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I think I learned from watching you, dad. Did you? Oh my god.

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I learned from watching you, Dad.

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And uh Raging Bull, uh movie and a movie that I was right to watch without you. Yes. You would not like it. It's a uh biopic about a sports an athlete.

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You might say a sportsman.

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A sportsman, uh boxer specifically.

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Yeah, I know thank you. Oh, there goes a half boxer.

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A fook at that. A 40s boxer named Jake Lamada, played by Robert De Niro. Who went from two uh 145 to 215 pounds?

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Whoa. Did he look hot?

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He looked pretty hot, actually. Yeah. I like to look that up. You mean as the fat and greasy version?

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Oh, he didn't get I thought you meant he got like ripped up with muscle.

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No, he was. He was jacked. Oh he looked he looked good.

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Okay.

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It was um it was a great movie. I see why it I think it had either three Oscar nominations or three wins or a combination of and had Pesci in it. It was the first time Pesci and De Niro worked together, I believe. That was the beginning of the beautiful movie. I've been on a De Niro kick lately. I just kind of realized I haven't been doing it on purpose, but Irishman, Cape Fear.

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Yeah, Cape Fear. We watched that one. Uh we have an up about that if you want to go back and listen to it. Or do we? Do we have a kitten up? Yeah, yeah. We did a whole up on it.

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Yeah, it wasn't the main topic, but we went pretty deep on it.

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Oh, what oh, I was thinking it was a main one.

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Yeah, we were figuring out what we're doing. We didn't know what we were doing, but now we definitely know. Oiled uh oiled and and pumping.

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Well, that's greater. Did you finish it?

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I watched Deer Hunter too. That's another dinero. Yeah, I did finish it. It's great. It's a great movie. It's um really rough. It's based on it's apparently incredibly accurate.

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Like to the true story of Raging Bull.

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Yeah, of the bronze. Is that his box running bull? Yes. Yes, he was a beast, he was a middleweight champion.

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What's a middleweight um weight range? Like 180 to 200?

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I want to say he got down to like no, no, no. No, that would have been so I think Is that a heavyweight? I I think the weight classes have shifted over the years. Like, I would be like a extra like back in the forties.

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Super duper heavyweight.

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Super duper heavyweight, yeah. Super duper pooper. Pooper scaping. They just called me poop. It's just poop class.

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Poop scoop class.

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Poop scoop class. But um he's a jerk, innit? It's based on him and like he wrote so he wrote a apparently he wrote like a super accurate or very candid autobiography. Oh he lived to be like 95 years old.

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He lived like Wow, that's an unusual age for a boxer or even a half boxer.

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Yeah, he had uh seven wives. I think seven he's sorry, he had been married seven times. He's not like polygamous. He doesn't have a harem. Although he probably did, honestly. In fact, he kind of did even a little bit in the movie. He wasn't very nice to his wife, to the point where like Jake Almotta was apparently saying like first he said, I think you guys like went a little too far with this, but then he kind of like realized that they actually probably got it right. And his ex-wife, Vicky, from the from the movie, was like I guess maybe his second wife in real life, he had five more after her, but said that no one.

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In case you guys are a little slow on the math.

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Yeah, I like to repeat things.

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Yeah.

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She said that you are you were worse.

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Oh.

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So yeah, it sucks. I do love watching a movie where every now and then I don't like to surround myself with these films, but like Uncut Gems, I've talked about before, where it's just decidedly everybody in the movie is just kind of a jerk. Yeah, yeah. I don't care what happens.

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When we watched Uncut Gems, I was watching my watch and my pulse was just it's too much. I couldn't. And then when we watched like one, did we watch one episode of the Bear? Is that what it's called? The one about the restaurant. Yeah, we watched it. Oh no, I couldn't. I can't do this. We can't do this.

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It's a lot, it's too much anxiety. Uh Raging Bull isn't doesn't quite have that kind of pace. But although there are some certainly plenty of scenes that do.

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Get your heart racing.

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Yeah, it's it did a lot of cool stuff. It's the fact that it was made in 1980s, pretty amazing.

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Um my friend Renee, she's a huge movie buff, and she's I think personally offended that you watch movies in 20 to 30 minute segments because she can't. She's like, I'm just a huge fan of watching the whole movie at once.

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Me too. No, it took me honestly, I considered doing it for years, and I would I had the same exact depictment.

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Well, yeah, because like m times when you and I would be watching something, I'd be like, Man, I am so tired. Can we just watch like half of this? And you'd be like, uh, it's really too inefficient. But it ends the same whether or not you finish it that night or the next day.

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But then it's like I'm never going to get a chance to sit down and watch Raging Bull or the Titanic or you know, whatever. Whatever movies I've watched in small well, that took that took forever to get through.

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Did you watch that on a bike?

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I watched that actually. That was a bad movie. That was pre-grade courses. Uh so now I now I mainly just watch great courses at night.

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I love the insect one you're watching right now.

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Yeah, you like you do? It's pretty cool. Um But yeah, I decided I'm like, it's I you read listen to books, like you'll cut out half halfway through a chapter. What's the difference in a movie? Yeah, Renee. I prefer to watch them. Don't get me wrong. I prefer to watch a movie start to finish upstairs in our 5.11 surround sound with you know, OLED movie, you know, all that fun stuff with recliner.

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Humble brag.

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Yeah, no big deal. I I got a good system. Renee, don't knock it to the reading anything? Uh yes.

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Did you read The River?

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No.

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Oh. I read The River. We decided that we were gonna read that, and I did. And it's sh very short.

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Hang on a second. You don't want to talk about Raising Bull anymore?

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Oh, I thought No, I don't. What else did you need to say about it?

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Nothing. I I I could talk, I could talk a while.

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Anyway, we talked about the hatchet as one of my books from the last topic, last podcast topic, and then I you said, Have you ever read The River? And I said no. So then I read it. It's very, very short.

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You read it in like 40 minutes.

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Yeah, maybe an hour.

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I went down to do something down here. I don't know. Or maybe I was watching Raging Bull. I don't know.

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Yeah. And I was 80 pages in when you went down there. And then when you came back up, I had finished it. It's very short. Um and then he also grabbed my attention was that Gary Paulson wrote another book in 2020, which who knew he's still writing books, called The North Wind or just North Wind. And it's a similar vibe, but it takes place in like very I wouldn't say when were Vikings, what period of time were Vikings?

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It's pretty early. Like 900s to Yeah, it feels like that.

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About a kid that gets basically like the whole village gets sick sick and dies. Tough question to answer. And this kid is left on his own in this like seafaring Which by the way, have you ever read The Island of the Blue Dolphins?

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Yes.

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Oh yeah. It's uh it's not exactly like that.

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Doesn't her brother get torn apart by wolves?

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Is that that book? Yeah.

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It's pretty crazy.

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Is that your favorite part?

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That's what I'm saying. Anyway, yeah.

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That's what I've been up to. And I did also check out the first 15 lives of Harry August and have plans to read that.

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Mm-hmm.

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So that's right.

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We saw a uh we went and toured a Lego exhibit.

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Oh, that's right. Our library had a Lego exhibit. Has a traveling bricks Lego exhibit.

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Went in to check out first 15 lives of Harry August and I was like, let's go run through this thing.

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It's free. Our Lego gets our library gets the best free exhibits and Legos.

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But they have the Titanic that's two blows.

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How big was the Titanic?

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Gosh.

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How many bricks?

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It took twenty feet.

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Yeah, but how many how many Lego bricks do you remember? I don't know. Hundreds of thousands. They they said that it took three men for a little bit.

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Was it forty to one?

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Yeah. It took three men, forty three men, four months working full time to put the Titanic together. And it was like all about transportation, so it had all kinds of different things. It was really cool. Transportation, thanks. Thanks, Library.

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Thank you. We love you.

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They've had the prehistoric seas, they've had a space exhibit, they had bodies exhibit twice, once with animals, once with humans.

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That's right.

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Uh we've been to all of them.

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I I make us all go. I guess check, see what's going on at your local library.

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Yeah.

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I bet I bet there's something.

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Top tip libraries are free.

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Um I have been reading sort of Okay. I I'm very frustrated. I don't know what to do.

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Okay.

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No, I'm I so I I stopped halfway through uh A Little Hatred, which is book seven. I've talked about last week of the Joe Abercrombie series.

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The Joe Abercrombie and Fetch series.

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Because yeah. Because in Libby, which is the my speaking of library, my how I get one of the ways I get audiobooks something came in, it's it was it's called a s someth what's up?

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Sorry, I'm just gonna check this.

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Okay she's checking something right now, guys. If you're just uh if you're just not tuning in.

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If you're just not tuning in the right, I got really worried that it wasn't counting the time, and it is counting the time. We've been talking for 20 minutes. We're 70 minutes left. If you just now tuned in, there's 70 minutes left.

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And my name's Rob Shuckey, and this is my wife also showing.

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Sorry about that, everybody. Whoever's watching us on YouTube just got a real cool close-up of my body and my face. So feel free to screenshot it.

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Real good close-up of your uh neck and your back. Wait.

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And that's it.

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And that's it. Period. Well, I was actually what I was doing was quoting Friday.

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Oh.

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Easel. Yeah. Okay. What did you think?

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I wasn't sure.

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Oh, okay.

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But anyway, about about the Joe Abercrombie Little Hatred.

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Oh, so so in Libby I get a notification that a stitch in time is available.

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Okay.

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You familiar with that book? It's a book written by Andrew Robinson, I believe is his name. Right? I think I wrote it down. Anyways, Andrew Robinson. You may know him from Did you ever see Dirty Harry?

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No.

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Oh, he's the killer in Dirty Harry.

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Okay.

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Pretty pretty good character actor. Okay. Uh he's great in Deep Space Nine. Star Trek Deep Space Nine. He plays kind of like a side character with about the same kind of frequency. You're kind of always to assume he's there. Okay. But he might not be in every episode. Kind of like kind of like Whoopsie Gold uh Goldbert and uh Goldbert. Yeah, Whoopsie Goldbert and um Sister Act 2. And Sister Act 2.

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You kind of always assume she's in it.

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She's just always around. No, and Star Trek Next Generation. Kind of. Anyway. He's pretty much the best character in the show. A lot of people think that. He's he's just awesome. He's um really funny and gregarious and always up to something and dangerous.

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Mm-hmm.

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What?

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I was waiting for you to circle back to a stitch in time.

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So what he did is an old actor's trick when he got the role of Garrick. He started writing an autobiography about Garrick. Uh using Star Trek.

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Is that what the book is?

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Yes. Using Star Trek Canon. Basically, he took like a some Star Trek encyclopedia and wrote the autobiography in line with to make sure there's continuity. And for the most part, I I think there was. So much so that this is like Deep Space Nine canon.

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Ooh, I love that.

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Basically, he he brought it up a few times at like conventions and things, and somebody talked him into writing a book about it. And so he actually wrote this, and it's not ghostwritten, like he wrote the whole thing. It's it's really good. Like for what it is, it's great.

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Like he's not a professional writer.

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No, but he's he's quite he's quite good. He's serviceable. That's one of my one of my favorite words for for something like this to describe old old Garrick.

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All right.

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If you're a Garrick fan, check it out. If you're not, I wouldn't read it. You kind of gotta. It was one of those things I'm like, I kind of wish I had read this while I was watching Deep Space Nine. Right. Or or or actually I would recommend doing it right after you finish it.

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We should watch Deep Space Nine. I've never seen really any of them.

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We could do like a handful. I probably haven't.

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I don't mean just for this, but I mean just like for a show.

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Yeah. It's a great some some people like it better than next generation. It's I'll I'll say this, as far as as far as like a story arc goes, it's probably the best. Okay. Of all the Star Trek.

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You've said that.

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Actually, it's absolutely the best. Okay. Because it has one. You know, like it's very, it's very central. There's a there's a driving story about the Dominion Wars and all these things happening throughout the entire series to the point where the last ten episodes straight are just. Yeah, exactly.

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Well, I prefer episodes of shows that do stand alone but then have a clever returning arc like that. Remember when we watched um the really good the Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock Holmes?

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Yes. Those are sweet.

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And it had that.

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Yes, it did.

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You didn't even realize it was building that.

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Yeah, it was kind of sneaking in like halfway through some episodes, too. We should watch those again. We should. Those were s those were really, really good.

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Yeah, they were. Okay.

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Okay. Anyway, so I'm I'm part part of the way through that. I'm honestly kind of paused at like, do I want to finish it?

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Because you kind of got what you wanted out of it.

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Yeah, I sort of did. I really don't care that much. It's okay if you don't read it. Yeah, so I think I'm gonna go back to Joe Abercrombie. Big sh if I ever if I want to get a Deep Space Nine again, I I might pick it back up, yeah.

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Well we're going to.

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Yeah.

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We just decided.

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Yeah, no, we're making decisions.

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Uh what else? Do you know what else? Uh hey, hey, what else? You know what else?

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I don't, but I have a couple questions.

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I want to know what your answers are.

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What what's our subscribership? Are we at 31?

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That's great. We got one more.

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We've got one more. Thank you.

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And any new comms?

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Yeah, I got some new comms. Alright, let's hear them. New comets. Uh one was from uh Dix with an X D-I-X.

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Um gosh, what else would it be with?

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Uh you said uh I didn't write it down. It was something about such nice voices. Yeah.

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And what song do you remember?

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That was She's Leaving Home. She's Living Home. And by the way, hey Dix. Um Thank you. Thank you. And you know, you got a nice voice too.

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Oh yeah, we did go listen to his stuff.

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Like he's got a nice, I look like a big, maybe hollow bodied 335 or something like that. He was playing like straight cats. He was playing, he did a Beatles cover too.

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Yep.

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Um and any other comics? Yeah, we got one from SJ112.

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I don't remember hearing about this one.

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Oh, very nice, very nice.

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Exclamation mark, too.

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Hey, thank you, SJ. Yeah, thank you, SJ.

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And get and listen to this.

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Okay.

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I didn't write the full thing down, but Scott. Remember Scott, who uh I sent a message to Scott a couple weeks ago. I worked, he's the one who told me about Cannibal the musical. Here come the juices.

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Oh, okay, yeah.

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Scott, Here Come the Juices. Yeah. I won't say his last name, even though it's in his username.

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Is it Here Come the Juices, though?

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Is that what he wrote?

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Is that his last name?

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His name is Scott, Here Come the Juices.

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Anyway, what did you say what did he say? Did he have a comment?

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Yes, he said uh he said, Thanks, A-holes, for I'm assuming it was a shout-out to uh to the chief from uh Cannibal Musical. Yeah, of course. Um but he said that we did a great job uh going into one of his favorite movies.

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Aw, thank you, Scott.

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Thanks, thanks for watching, Scott. I didn't know if he got the message because I I didn't see on I didn't heard heard anything for a couple weeks. I thought uh maybe he doesn't use Facebook or he just doesn't care. You know, that's perfectly reasonable. Right. I haven't talked to him in the world.

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Was it like did he send you a wedding invitation or anything like that? Tell us that story. There's time. Rob loves for as much as Rob is an IT guy, he doesn't do social media really at all.

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I don't do much communicating.

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But one of his college roommates that he was fairly close with.

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Yeah, yeah. I love my boy.

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In proximity and it's not Uncle Dan, it's it was a different guy, it's not Uncle Dan.

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Uncle Dan, it's not you.

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It's not you, Uncle Dan. You're already married.

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Very close to you, too.

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And he got a message from roommate Dan inviting him to his wedding, and Rob was like, Oh my gosh, man, I'm so sorry I can't come, or I would have loved to been there.

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Yeah, I had there was something going on. I couldn't make it.

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And then Dan wrote back.

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He said, Hey, I've actually been married for what, like eight years.

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He said, This is This message is eight years old.

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He's like, But it's so nice to know that you would want to go to my wedding if I was good. I hope you're doing well. Something like that.

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Oh, that's so great. It's really funny. But anyway, that's probably what you thought. Maybe Scott, maybe Scott was like you and he wasn't planning on checking that for eight years.

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I could have been it, and that would have been completely fine. Yeah. I'm actually I'm just thrilled he saw it and replied. And I I love uh well, I don't love you, but don't say that. Well, I was gonna say that things are probably getting there pretty quick.

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I just ripped off a piece of my chair.

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Why'd you do that?

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It was Rob, it was hanging on like this. Why do you care? Why do you care?

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Just waiting in line and just destroying property, probably private property in this case. Is that worse?

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No, we're not ready yet.

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Something really important. Don't look at your watch.

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I'll look at my watch.

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This is your fault that I'm gonna talk about.

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Okay.

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You told me to listen to City of Angels and use myself.

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I didn't do my assignment, by the way.

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That's okay. Don't don't worry about it.

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I will.

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Blood on the tracks, Bob Dylan. Sure. Bob Dylan. I think DeWylin. It's Bob DeWylin. Burt Dylan.

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I think that's right.

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It's Burt Dylan. Yeah, it is. Uh so City of Angels. Uh how much do you know about City of Angels?

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In com in what capacity?

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Like, you know, do you know that did you happen to know that it was uh 1989 Broadway?

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I knew it was from the 80s.

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Did you know it was written by uh Cy Coleman?

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Yeah, Cy Coleman.

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Lyrics by David Zeppel?

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No.

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And book by Larry Gilbart?

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No book. Okay. Do you know what book means?

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Book?

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Yeah.

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Didn't say.

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It's script.

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There's a book. It says book on Wikipedia.

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Okay. Are they referring to a book called City of Angels? Or are they referring to the script, which is called the book?

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I don't think so.

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When people say off book, they want you to have it memorized. Well I'm just telling you, that's probably who wrote the the dialogue.

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What if it's based on a book?

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I think you're the wrong one. I think that that probably means that that is the person who wrote the dialogue for the musical.

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I did absolutely no research on this whatsoever, but I did listen to it.

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Great. And for a musical, how'd you like it?

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For a musical.

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I know sorry.

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I don't listen to very many musicals. Uh it was really I mean, like you said, the music was great. It was swinging big band like tight. Count bassy kind of style stuff. Yeah, it was really, really great. Uh the singing was great. The I don't I just don't love it's not that I don't like musicals. I just I can't explain it. I'm gonna get really better here, but no, it's just it's okay if you don't like it. It's like hearing a story about a dream or something. You're like, this is interesting, but it I can't. I feel like it I feel like had I been in musicals, I would have I would like them a lot more.

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I guess I don't really understand why you can like any fiction at all and not feel like oh this is a dream. This is like hearing about a dream.

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I think I just need to probably listen to more musicals.

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Did you have a favorite song?

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Uh you know, I did take some notes on it.

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Alright, well, just give me a little feedback.

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What did I write? I Buddy System has a nice rhyme scheme. I bet less.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Lots of middle the word.

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I I totally meant to pull up some quotes of, but yeah, lots of do you have you happen to remember? That's all right. Um I wrote the tennis song is super loaded with double entendres.

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Oh yeah.

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Be a great B side for baby it's cold outside.

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It really would.

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Pretty intensified.

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Wow.

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Um seems like a oh, I said it seems like a softball for a family guy spoof.

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Yeah.

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It might have already been written. I wrote to check to see if they did it, just because it is just so it feels it wasn't a very well-known musical, though.

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I don't think it didn't hit big like.

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I bet Seth McFarland has heard it. Uh I wrote, Why does Alora's theme sound so familiar? And that's not because of Dr. Chapago. Like it actually, the melody in Alora's theme, which is like it's like a minute, it's like a quick little piece. It was in my head, it might just be because I heard this before that you've played it or something, but it's sound I could I I spent way too much time try time trying to identify that melody in another song. But I wrote I like the double talk, double talk walk instrumental. That was pretty cool. I really like the opening and the epilogue a lot, like the like the overture type. Reminded me a lot of uh yes, of uh Weather Report. Do you know Birdland? No, I bet you do.

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It's like do do do do do do do do and then birdland.

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You don't know that one? I don't know. Um, anyways, it's it had that same kind of feel, like kind of pick like bustling city sort of. Yes. It's really, really neat.

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Okay, well thanks for listening to it.

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And I wrote funny. Funny was a nice ironic. Funny was a nice ironic mix. Oh, funny. The song funny is not funny.

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Right.

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Yeah, it's just kind of somber and yeah. Yeah, great, great soundtrack. I would totally if you ever if it if it ever came to town and you want to see it, I'd happily go with you.

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I don't think anybody does it anymore. I don't even know if you can do it because you have to have they have to be the rights to do it have to be available.

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Oh, so it's like uh it's like a Disney uh vault.

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All Broadway musicals are like that. Like when our kids school do it, they have to buy the rights to put it on. And it has to be, they have to sign a contract and it has to be within certain dates. And some some companies that sell the rights to do that, if another area is doing it, then they won't let you do it. It's like there's a thing. There's there's a lot of stuff that goes on with that.

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What was the Disney once it's go it's it's going back in the vault for a long, long time?

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Oh, yeah, the Disney vault. They're like let it out of the vault so you could buy it again. Yeah. Anyway, all right.

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Did you want to talk about Hogwarts Legacy or some other time? Oh, some other time. I'm not ready.

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I did I'll just say that. I played it three years ago, beat it, and I've decided to go back and I'm playing it again. So very differently.

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Taking it?

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Yeah, it's fun.

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Cool. I'd love to know about how you played it differently, but let's move on.

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I'll just say I don't feel as driven to have to accomplish everything the second that it is available to me to accomplish like I did before. I was like, I gotta get this, I gotta get that, like now I gotta do this and I gotta finish this so I can get that.

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Like trying to watch like trying to watch Sister Act for the first time taking notes, that'd be rough.

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That would be hard. But this time, Sister Act 2, you mean Sister Act 2, yeah.

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Although I think I probably have seen Sister Act more than once, the first one.

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Yeah, me too, for sure.

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What do you like more between the two of them?

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Sister Act 2, of course.

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Of course you do.

Why Sister Act 2 Matters

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Yeah. Anyway, so that's what we're talking about this week. Sister Act 2 back in the house. Thank you so much for doing that.

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You're welcome. I wanted to do something that you that you wanted to do.

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Um I typically want to do most of the time.

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And honestly, I I did I saw this movie probably about the time it came out.

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Is that it? Just the time.

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Yeah, that would have been the last time.

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Did you like it then?

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Yeah, I liked it.

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Did you think it was cheesy?

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Yes. Not nearly as cheesy as I thought it was last night. Like way.

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I don't know what you're talking about.

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I mean, it was delightfully cheesy. We could get into details.

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We will. And we will. Sorry, I'm on my cord here. All right.

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But it was.

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You want to give us a little history about the movie, and then I'll give the synopsis real quick.

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Yeah, it was made in 1993.

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That's right. We were 10 and 11.

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Oh, yeah, we were.

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Babies. We're just babies. Look at that. We're just a baby.

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By it was directed by Bill Duke. You know Bill Duke?

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Apparently I do now. He was the shopkeeper, the convenience store operator.

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Yes, he was.

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In the show, in the movie.

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Bill Duke was also in Is he a musician? Oh well, he might be, but that's not what he's known for. He's he's an actor. He was in uh Commando with Schwarzenegger. Yeah. He was in Predator with Andy Arnold Switzerland.

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Oh, I remember him now, yeah.

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He was in Minnesota Society.

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Dog.

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You see, you got the bottle of beer at 8 o'clock, if for anybody who's seen Menace Society. It's he's great, great in that. It's very intimidating.

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He's pretty big looking dude.

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Yeah, he's 6'4.

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Yeah. Oh.

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And he he he's he's directed, like he's a great director. Uh this is probably like his most famous move. Like it's probably he how he's where he's made the most money, but it's kind of it was kind of a critical philosophy.

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I'd like to know why you can't get the soundtrack on iTunes.

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You hear that?

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Uh Bill Duke? Warren Hill.

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I think Bill Duke's running Apple now. Whoopsie Goldberg? Whoopsie Gold. I think it's Goldbert.

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Goldbert.

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Yeah. I don't want to get people writing in angry that we're saying your name wrong. So it's yeah, it's Goldbert.

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We have no comments, and then all of a sudden we wake up and there's like 600 angry whoopy Goldberg fans. Whoopsie Goldbert.

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Whoopsie Goldbert. Is it gulp burp?

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Yeah, that's what it is. Gulp burp. You have to make sure you pronounce both Ps.

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So Bill Duke. What'd he do? Rage and Harlem. He directed. Oh, Deep Cover? He yeah, Rage and Harlem in 1991. So he's I mean he's he's great. Anyways, he was in this for just a minute.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So So Bill Duke. Bill Duke. This podcast is about Bill Duke. So Bill Duke. Hey guys, I'm Rob Schukraft.

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This is my wife, Bill Duke. This is my wife, Bill Duke.

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Leslie's slowly turning into Bill Duke over time. What order would you go in? Because you'd have to change a few pretty fundamental.

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I feel like it would be really growing taller and my skin getting darker.

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There's a South Park episode that meets two of those criteria. Wow. Yeah.

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I would it turns into a dolphin. Like slowly over the course of the episode.

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Well, yeah, while it's a it's it's it's absurd. We gotta move we gotta move on.

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Um okay, so Sister Act One, Dolores, who is Whoopi Goldberg, she's she has to go in hiding in a convent because her boyfriend or she witnesses a murder, right? So she's in witness protection and she goes and pretends to be a nun, and then she like gets all the nuns to sing and what does she help what else do they have like a crisis like the school closing? Uh is their convent gonna close or something like that.

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Yeah, I think the Pope comes and visits.

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Ends up saving them somehow, but I can't remember. So then in the second one, and they find out she's a Las Vegas singer and stuff, because that's what she is. She's not a nun. It's pretty paramount to the story that you understand that. Do you understand that?

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That she's not a nun.

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That she's not a nun, that she's a Las Vegas singer. Got it. You got it? Okay.

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Yeah.

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Do you think Bill Duke has gotten it?

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Bill Duke probably got it. Yeah, by the time he started directing it. Sister Act II. Yeah, I think it's a good thing.

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So anyway, some of the nuns go at the very beginning of Sister Act Two. She's performing her Las Vegas residency. It's her last night, of course. And they come and they ask her to come back to where they are now teaching in school where she apparently went to high school.

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Do we want to talk about it?

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No, just let me just fly through it. Of course. And so they ask her to come teach music because they have all these troubled teens. And so, of course, she comes and she's like, you know, it's just about how she gets to school. The school's gonna close because the community's not supporting it. It's like an inner city, San Francisco. And um, and she basically it's the same basic plot line as Sister Act One, but with teenagers.

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It's also the same basic plot line as like the stand to deliver, the Hoosers, Mighty Ducks. It's like turning a group of kids around, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a pretty But it features Lauren Hill. Things are gonna School of Rock has had to have been in I mean I mean they're basically the same movie. It's a little different. How was School of Rock hasn't how did School of Rock not get roasted for being an original when they're I mean they're pretty much the same movie, aren't they? Whoa, you guys are good at music?

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Yeah. But I mean it's like there's a lot of movies just like that. You guys are actually blah blah blah, blah blah blah.

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But I mean, like we're talking about an actual, you know, school for music.

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Right. You know, in both sides. Well, this was just a regular high school. This was a regular. Yeah, but this is a music class. So anyway, so she does that, ultimately ends up saving the school. Spoiler alert. We will be spoiling.

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School of Rock is just a regular school too, by the way.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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It wasn't like a smart kid.

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We basically watched School of Rock.

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Oh. I wish Jack Black would have been in it.

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They just keep like switching. Jack Black and Whoopi Goldberg.

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Whoopsie Goldberg and quit calling her that. So anyway. Without explaining it, it's just Let me just say, so that's the basic gist of it, but let me get pull up my notes. Basically, that movie I watched I watched the whole movie a couple times, but I watched all the performances. Performances. Uh I don't know. Here's the order in which I watched the very last scene I probably watched 135 million times, the Oh Happy Day scene shortly behind that. Then the very opening number where she's in Las Vegas, and then the fourth one, which was the uh the nuns at the nursing home, and then the dancing in the streets, what I didn't I don't think I ever rewatched. That was just a little gimmicky.

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Yeah.

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But I mean that movie was like I was going to be those people.

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Well, a lot of people felt the same way because this influenced a ton of people. Have you ever gone gone through and seen like all the people that are like I think like Jennifer Hudson? Do you know she got a she's got an e-got?

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I don't know what that is. Oh, she's gotten every award. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. So uh just a ton of people.

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Emmy Grammy Academy Award and a Tony.

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Oh Tony, yeah.

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What's an Academy Award? It's a Oscar.

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The Oscar, okay. So, yeah, this movie has just let me let me see here. I I think I got it pulled up here somewhere. Keep talking about how much you love it.

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Okay, I loved it so much. Um I loved did you catch that in the so the very beginning the nurse the nurses, the nuns go back to get her from her performance. Did you catch that she sort of tells her the story of Sister Act One in that?

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Yes.

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Yeah. I don't think I knew that until as a I was an adult. Oh. Did you know that before? Like as a kid watching it?

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What I have maybe? Yeah. I don't know. I I'm not sure. I have no I don't have any direction.

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Shoot them both now.

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Probably not. I the I mean the the the sh the scene sorry, the scenes you discussed, the the performances, are what makes the movie this movie. Like without that, it's pretty a total turd. It is not that great. Don't say that.

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Renee's not gonna like us anymore. The audience won't like to hear that. It's so stupid. Um okay, so what was your favorite part about the opening?

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It influenced no, it's okay. It it influenced so first of all, after Lauren Hill put on this performance, she wasn't really known at this point, right?

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I have no idea.

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She I didn't know. So she was in the Fuji's either during or shortly after, and Michael Jackson reached out on some level, or his people, I don't know.

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And or his monkey.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, bubbles. Anyways, came uh offered her to some degree some some form of a con you know contract of the couple.

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She was already contracted up with the Fuji's.

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Yeah, with the Fujiis.

SPEAKER_00

Fujies.

SPEAKER_02

Zach Koffinak was talking about the Fujiis. Okay. Anyways, so that was a big deal. So she influenced. Michael Jackson or uh what what uh what whoopsie did and uh so over the years let's see we have Leanne La Javist. Stop me if you know any of these names. Colby Collette.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

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Okay, Colby Calais Calais, sorry about that, Colby.

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Uh she's kind of a like a light pop singer. She's done some stuff with Michael Bublet.

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Nope. Nope. Hillary Scott of Lady A.

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Oh, yeah.

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LaCrae. I know LaCrae.

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Yeah.

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I could see the influence there. Uh Janelle Mon Monet.

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Yeah.

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Okay. Uh Katie Perry.

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Oh, I know her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so a lot of people uh Tanya Trotter. No.

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People saw that movie and they were like, I want to do that.

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Yes. Harry's uh Harry Styles.

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Oh yeah.

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It was was influenced by Ryan Toby.

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Is my name on that list?

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Leslie Shuka. Yeah. Oh, uh Rhythm and New Owner. Yeah, music therapy. Oh, shouldn't say that.

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It's okay. Don't say it again.

SPEAKER_02

Harry Styles, yeah, was influenced by Ryan Toby, who was the I kept wanting to call him Stefan Orkel. Because he has a little bit of a Stefan look to him.

SPEAKER_01

Which one was he?

SPEAKER_02

He was the City High Guy. Oh, we have uh Oh happy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I know which one the City High guy is.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

So favorite part of the opening scene.

SPEAKER_02

How she well, number one, I gotta I gotta say, I really did. I was impressed with how many songs they packed into that.

SPEAKER_01

In that mashup at the beginning.

SPEAKER_02

So let me see.

SPEAKER_01

We got to try to catch them all.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we have uh Love Child, Proud Mary, Devil with the Blue Dress. I can't help myself, which trigger by honey bunch. Please, Mr. Postman, It'sy Bitsy Teeny Winnie El Pokad Bikini, stop in the name of love, shop around. I can't turn you loose, do the hustle, bad girls, Mr. Big Stuff, Shotgun, nowhere to run. Hallelujah, my guy, I will follow him, and we are a family. All is We are family. We are family, sorry.

SPEAKER_01

We are a family. We are a family. You do?

SPEAKER_02

So number one, number one, for remind me to tell you a story about my life in this movie that I just realized yesterday.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Number two, my favorite part about the opening scene, other than just actually being addressed by the opening scene, was the inexplicable her flying back and forth.

SPEAKER_01

And they don't explain why they're doing that. And then they cut to the guys running her. But they're either acting, but in one scene they're acting like they're doing it on purpose, and the other scene they're acting like they're like, okay, now bring it back in.

SPEAKER_02

But but no, they never and they never address it. So like, wait, what was it?

SPEAKER_01

She was kind of like was like her prank on her last yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Well that's true. That was one that was a good part, but I also really liked the three men. The first one that was chewing gum, the blue in the blue striped r wrestling singlet.

SPEAKER_02

It was oh man, it looked just like it looked well, first of all, it looked very AC Slater.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yes. It was like uh it was like an aerobics looking costume. And then the postman, he looked like he stepped out of magic mic.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_01

Except his face. And then his butterface? Oh. Then the circus strongman, it'sy bitsy teeny weeny, that dude was on something.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That they were my favorite part of that.

SPEAKER_02

So the reason I did not bring them up was because I planned to bring them up right now.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

So I really was a poor man's a young man version of one of those guys. It just dawned on me yesterday.

SPEAKER_00

So when we were watching this with the Postman, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So a bunch of girls from at when I'm at high school, a bunch of girls, they're doing like Divas through the decades, and they did like Postman, Stop of the Name of Love, several songs. And then they kind of went into like blues, like with the first.

SPEAKER_01

And were you like 18, 17 years old?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yeah, 17, and we did it a second year too.

SPEAKER_01

Did you have similar costumes?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like I literally was dressed like a postman.

SPEAKER_01

Did you have a singlet?

SPEAKER_02

I I I wore a bunch of clothes that I could strip off and put on. No, it wasn't so we didn't get into the singlet, but I guarantee you they saw this movie. For sure.

SPEAKER_01

Like we're gonna put was a parent in charge of that, like a mom?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

The girls were just like, let's have Rob do this. Rob will do it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, basically.

SPEAKER_01

That's that's everybody thinks that. Rob will do it.

SPEAKER_02

And they're right. I usually will. So, yes, that was uh great good way to start the movie.

SPEAKER_01

It was it was wise because then there was about 20 minutes of dead dead zone for a while after that. However, the traveling music from Las Vegas to San Francisco, did you write that down too?

SPEAKER_02

It was great. It was the wrong way. It was really good.

SPEAKER_01

I just wanted to know why why can we just talk for a minute about why she doesn't have eyebrows? Does she have eyebrows? Because the whole entire movie I was trying to tell if she had eyebrows.

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_01

Does she shave them off or did they just not crash?

SPEAKER_02

She has not had eyebrows for a long time.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but was it a just a decision or just a natural May I? Please.

SPEAKER_02

Her mother removed them in childhood because she was developing bumps on her face. She's kept them off ever since on film and TV. She has them applied and removed. Her co-hosts on The View, including one who sat next to her for six years, didn't notice until she mentioned it in 2022.

Plot Holes School Logic And Handshakes

SPEAKER_01

Was it you? Were you her co-host on the view?

SPEAKER_02

I didn't need to be a co-host of hers, and I noticed it within seconds of seeing her face. She's got such an expressive face, it doesn't really detract from it, but it is like she if if there's a a way to pull off an eyebrowless look, she She's got it.

SPEAKER_01

She's got it. She does have a dynamic face. Her the clothes in this movie, I feel like they just like took whatever was a trending and like doubled down on it for what everybody was wearing.

SPEAKER_02

Especially, I mean, I we'll get to this, but at the very end when they gotta take their robes off, like whatever you happen to be wearing, just matching multicolored overalls.

SPEAKER_01

It's just but I wrote down. Well, she wears, she knows she's gonna go pretend to be a nun again and teach. And she's wearing this like blue suit dress with black shoes, but but she has like thigh-high stiletto boots on.

SPEAKER_02

What was that? That was a chair. Yeah. It was the chair.

SPEAKER_01

It was the chair. This chair right here.

SPEAKER_02

You know what she was wearing.

SPEAKER_01

What?

SPEAKER_02

This is you're the only person who will get this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay, good. Like most of the content of our show.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Like literally all the all of the content on the show. She was wearing uh she was wearing the thing.

SPEAKER_01

It's better be funny. I don't even know where you're gonna go. It's not funny. Oh my gosh, she took his outfit. Yeah, she did. Yeah. Guys, go walk go back. Guys, go back and listen to our X-Files, talk about the Tombs episodes. Make sure you watch the Tombs episodes, and then you'll be able to come back to this and know why we're like. That's all you have to do.

SPEAKER_02

So can it be?

SPEAKER_01

But I guess that's who she is. That's who she is.

SPEAKER_02

You know what's what's good what was kind of probably a fun time was uh hey, uh what's what's uh McGonagall's name in this?

SPEAKER_01

Um Reverend Mother.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I don't know. Superior.

SPEAKER_01

Mother Superior. Mother Superior. I really don't know.

SPEAKER_02

She Maggie. Maggie?

SPEAKER_01

It's a real name, isn't it? I think so. I think so. Is it like Maggie Smith?

SPEAKER_02

Let me look it up real quick. Talk about your love for her, real quick. Talk about your love for Professor McGonagall.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Professor McGonagall, she's died. She died. I'm pretty sure her name is Maggie Smith.

SPEAKER_02

It is Maggie Smith.

SPEAKER_01

Um, she's fantastic. I thought she was so when I was I was much younger. How much younger was I when Regular Sister Art came out? Was it like 90 or 91?

SPEAKER_02

Something like that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I was scared, like really scared of her.

SPEAKER_02

She she's such a good actress. She's the best. Like when when she said, like, when they asked, like, is there anything else you could tell me about Sister Mary Catherine? She's like, I wouldn't want to frighten you.

SPEAKER_01

Clarence.

SPEAKER_02

Clarence, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I wouldn't want to frighten you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but like that that would have been such a deadline from anybody else.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, she's a magic, she was a magic person.

SPEAKER_02

But why did why did Whoopsey have to go all the way to San Francisco to find out like she has to talk to you? What? Okay, okay, we'll be able to.

SPEAKER_01

Were there phones in 1993?

SPEAKER_02

I'll call her or or something, you know, anything.

SPEAKER_01

Because she had to ask her in person. I think they knew that if they could get her there, they think they could keep her there.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, like okay. She's got a heart of goal art.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, persuasion, yeah. That's it. But I also feel like the things that they choose to completely gloss over, like, okay, so she's not a nun. That's one thing. She's not a teacher. Is a pretty big stumbling block for me. Like they're in dire straits, they're about to get close. They have a terrible class of students, and they're like, let's just bring any we'll take anyone.

SPEAKER_02

Also, they're all like, Thank you so much for doing this, as if it's like a done deal. Like it's guaranteed this non-teacher is gonna fix it. Woman who hangs out with murderers. Yeah. Like just two years.

SPEAKER_01

You come in and help us.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, you know how you're a piece of crap? Well, we got a whole classroom full of I wrote, Who needs a teaching degree?

SPEAKER_01

These kids are beyond help anyway.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I love Well, yeah, that's they so that was the attitude, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, that actually was the attitude. They're just like, it was kind of funny. Like it was honestly, sadly enough, it reminded me. I love my my team, uh-huh, but just like uh in the not just the education system, but just companies in general, how people are just like uh we this is training, we need some we need to be able to say we do this. So hey, we do this, and well, don't tell me details about it. I don't actually care if it's working. I just want to say we can do that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I did write, speaking of Professor McGonagall, I did write that she was that's a good juxtaposition for Whoopi Goldberg's character. They were about the best actor or actresses on. Do you think she's a good actress, Whoopi Goldberg?

SPEAKER_02

I do actually think she's a good guy. Yeah, I do too. Yeah. I actually I don't love her, I don't love her um movies necessarily, but I've seen a handful of them. She's I don't know what she was first. I don't know if she was a comic or I feel like she was. She was definitely a comic, but I didn't.

SPEAKER_01

Wasn't she kind of like same time as like Jerry Seinfeld? Why is that sticking out in my head?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and Billy Crystal. Okay. Billy Crystals.

SPEAKER_01

Billy's Crystals.

SPEAKER_02

Billy's Crystals.

SPEAKER_01

Um is Billy Crystals from Zach Galvanakis, too.

SPEAKER_02

That is actually Tim and Eric. Tim and Eric call her Wheepsey Goldberg.

SPEAKER_01

Right, I know.

SPEAKER_02

And Billy Crystals and there's several others, anyways. So, you know, she's a good actress. I mean, I've I've seen a fair amount of things. She has a really nice smile. She loves her on Star Trek.

SPEAKER_01

She has a way of smiling at the characters that make them feel seen, which I know sounds like the dumbest thing ever, but it does. It feels like if she smiled at you like that, you'd be like, She understands me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she's got a lot of presence.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, like that's why she's that psychotherapist bartender in Deep Space Nine.

SPEAKER_02

That's right. Right. Even uh and Q's afraid of her.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yes. I do like that one there. Unsettled dinosaur.

SPEAKER_02

She knew about the Borg. Like, she's pretty she's pretty cool in this way.

SPEAKER_01

She's old, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't I don't I I I don't know enough about Gaynor to yeah, to really get into that.

SPEAKER_01

But anyway, I love how we're always just talking about Star Trek.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Star Trek's freaking cool, man. What were we gonna what were we gonna watch? Supernatural?

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, Clark was wondering about that. Alright, so then so then that she meets the monks, which are just ridiculous group of they don't even really look like they're are they monks? Rap fathers? I guess they're not monks. What are they?

SPEAKER_02

Brothers. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Brothers? But are they not monks, they're priests? Unmarried Catholics.

SPEAKER_02

No, they're dressed like I I don't know enough about Catholicism, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

I wonder though if they're an accurate representation of I'm sure they're dead on accurate.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. Just driving uh driving up 18. Okay, so speaking of scenes.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of scenes that don't have any context and they never explain. They're eating dinner and the administrator. What is he what is crisp? What is his title?

SPEAKER_02

James Coburn.

SPEAKER_01

And he comes in and shakes her hand.

SPEAKER_02

He has really small hands.

SPEAKER_01

But like, why won't he let go of her hand? And she's like, You're gripping me here. And then he lets go, and then like the other nurse, the other nuns are like, they just smile. I know, what was Dolores?

SPEAKER_02

What was that?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I wrote what's with the grip thing.

SPEAKER_02

But did you notice that he has really small hands?

SPEAKER_01

I didn't, because I was just focused on the woman. Maybe she has huge hands.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that could be it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You don't know. I have huge hands. Somebody might think that that make uh somebody's hand could look small in my hands.

SPEAKER_02

You know what would be really funny? Why? Is if she had like a little like a little little hand puppet with with eyebrows.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think Do you think that's one of those scenes, the handshake grippic scenes that had more context around it, but it had to get thrown out? And then you're like they just left that in, but it's like they were trying to establish something going between the two of them, but with apps like why would he have any reason to think anything bad about her and and to want to hold her hand like that at that point in the movie?

SPEAKER_02

Are we supposed to think he was like racist or something? Maybe he probably wouldn't have touched her then.

SPEAKER_01

And held onto her for so long.

SPEAKER_02

It was like a stink palm. Did you ever see Mall Rats?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I don't remember that though.

SPEAKER_02

Michael Rooker's character gets stink palm, which is basically when you put your uh hand gross and you shake somebody's hand.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe that's what it was. I think that's both.

SPEAKER_02

James Goldberg was stink palm and Floopsy Goldberg.

SPEAKER_01

So then she goes to the high school to Mary Catherine Fake.

SPEAKER_02

That did not stick. Why'd they have to use that like seven times afterward? I don't know. It was the worst joke.

SPEAKER_01

It was like they were they put all their budget into the music.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it was pretty funny that he was screwing up her name every time, but then he lands on fake. Yeah. It's just like, dude.

SPEAKER_01

They put all the money into the music. That's just the way it is.

SPEAKER_02

Michael Jeter. Can I just chuck comment on him real quick? Which one's he? He's the one, he's this one. That guy.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, like the little Astera.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, man, what a character.

SPEAKER_01

He was good. I liked him.

SPEAKER_02

I do too. He was in Green Mile. You haven't seen that though. That's okay.

SPEAKER_01

He was the the most likable. I liked the principal too.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Those two are the most likable.

SPEAKER_02

I kind of liked all the characters for the most part. Like anyways, continue.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so then she goes to her first day of teaching and she walks by and they have a sex ed class. Which I thought was.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like they could have had a lot more fun with that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, they had to keep it. I mean, you knew a lot of kids were gonna be watching that movie, so.

SPEAKER_02

True.

SPEAKER_01

Um But then here's my question. She went to that high school. She says, Oh, I went to high school there. Why doesn't she know where any of the classrooms are at?

SPEAKER_02

Well, maybe it's like your high school. It's like a completely different building now.

SPEAKER_01

I guess so, but it's laid out the format, like the No, it's obvious it hasn't changed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And he's like, Oh, maybe he couldn't she didn't know which classroom it was going to be in, but like he describes getting there like with 40 turns, and I'm like, the building can't be that big.

SPEAKER_02

No, that's a really good point. That's why I forgot that she went there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I said if she went to high school there, why didn't she know where the classroom was?

SPEAKER_02

Also, wait a minute. Did she know about all the past awards? And were we s were we to believe that she was the responsible for those awards?

SPEAKER_01

Or was she, yeah, was she before or after that time? Yeah, I know, because like they find just for reference, because you haven't seen it, they find a box of award for the case.

SPEAKER_02

For some reason you're watching two people who you there's no way you know. Like if we're not from anything. Talk about Sister H2. And you haven't seen it. Actually, there's probably a good chance whoever is actually listening to this has not seen Sister Ecto. Hey, thanks for listening.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Go watch Sister Act 2.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, they find a box, they find a box of like old awards that where the school used to win the choir competition every year for the whole state of California, which I find to be very Yeah. I know in football, they split them up in like north and then they also the timeline, it's like, okay, this is ninety-three. Let's just say she's a minimum of twenty-eight years old. She was definitely in her thirties, but I mean I have no idea how old she was when they filmed it, but then she would have been in school at that time when they were winning those awards.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_01

And she didn't She didn't act like she didn't know, but she didn't say when I was at the school, we used with but I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

She she would have been like she would have brought it up. She would be like, I was here, we were but no was that part of her trying to be secretive?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think so. I think it was just brushed over. You think they just it was brushed over the same way that they brushed over the handship flying yes, stink pokay. So then what did you what do you think of in that first scene when they're all introducing themselves?

SPEAKER_02

Oh. Of 27 years old.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I wrote Frank K is twenty-nine years young. So see her family guy when Brian's teaching and he has to take on his own. Deliver this one. Can I have this one? So she goes and meets her class, and of course they're just like Frank K is absurd. They're all absurd. Oh yeah. And it's like what I love is that like it's like two or three visits to the class before she realizes that that they're quote, musical, but they're like rapping and singing in the very first thing with great rhythm.

SPEAKER_02

She could hear them down the hallway. The hallway that she's apparently never been to before, or maybe they did have them squirreled away in the basement. That's true.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe she's just they did have to find the old music room and move their class into that room. Maybe that was why the class was going downhill. The administration just kept shoving them out of the way.

When The Choir Takes Over

SPEAKER_02

Could be it. Things work that way. It's a red stapler kind of thing. One thing that's really I just I don't even know where to start with this, but it's like the kids couldn't quite figure out how to be bad kids.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I was gonna say that. Like and the worst things that they were doing were like rapping too much.

SPEAKER_02

But like there's no drug use, there's no promiscuity, like they but they treat like certain scenes that are trivial have the weight of drug use. Like, yeah, for instance, the uh Lauren Hill and um Trotter, uh, what's her name? The the the other the girl with the short hair.

SPEAKER_01

Uh the sp eye on the sparrow girl.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the eye on the sparrow girl. They're sitting there, it's almost like she's trying to get her to use drugs or maybe have like a experimental sexual experience of some kind.

SPEAKER_01

Or is that what she's trying to get her to sing?

SPEAKER_03

Come on, sing. Come on, sing with me. You're so good.

SPEAKER_01

She's like, I can't sing with you, girl. Even though you're like the best singer who's ever lived. So stupid. Um of her she starts dropping some pretty good one-liners, though. Sister Mary Clarence.

SPEAKER_02

Lauren Hill's not the best singer who's ever lived, but she is quite good. She's great.

SPEAKER_01

But whoopsie whoopsie starts saying, like, I can't, I didn't write any of them down, but she like starts saying like kind of mean things to the kids. But they're like in good humor.

SPEAKER_02

There's a little bit, there's a there's a there's some heavy Yo mama usage to this. Yes, but that's not even what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01

She's just like, I don't even I can't even think of them, but she just like says kind of mean one-liners to the kids every once in a while.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Well, what was the deal where she started rapping? It was a terrible rap. The kids are actually pretty good rappers.

SPEAKER_01

Lauren Hill was rapping at the recess, high school recess. Which, by the way, do these kids have any other classes to go to?

SPEAKER_04

I know.

SPEAKER_01

You're in sex ed. Okay, you attend this in your junior year, you take sex ed all day, every every day. That's how it is. You take music all day.

SPEAKER_02

San Francisco is a wild city.

SPEAKER_01

It was a wild time back in 1990.

SPEAKER_02

Especially in Catholic schools.

SPEAKER_01

Um And also, that was when we first get to see Jennifer Love Hewitt.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

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Looking 12 years old.

SPEAKER_02

She's 14.

SPEAKER_01

So basically.

SPEAKER_02

You know, she was shortly after this, she was in uh she spent some time in Chagrin Falls, my old stomping grounds. She filmed House Arrest there. Oh you familiar with that movie?

SPEAKER_01

No. Is it funny or scary?

SPEAKER_02

Funny, well, it's a comedy.

SPEAKER_01

It was in the comedy genre. She's adorable though. She's really pretty. And then when um she tells them it's not gonna be a an easy course anymore, and then Lauren Hill tries to get everybody to leave, and they're all like, We're not gonna go.

SPEAKER_03

I need this grade. Yeah, and then she I'm really bad, but I do care about getting straight A's.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I wrote, Did these kids only attend a music class? Like, she just was like, I quit, and then she just left the school. So, like, do you not have any other classes you gotta go to that you didn't quit?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, her mom was totally torn up about her singing when apparently she's in a apparently only in a music school. She can't she's so confused. Too much of a spray.

SPEAKER_01

Did you like Ball of Confusion?

SPEAKER_02

I love Ball of Confusion. I love that song, and I thought it was fun. I love that they did the whole song.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I thought it was great that um they let the nuns have a a moment, a flashback moment.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was it was too much.

SPEAKER_01

I wanted to be like have they been working on this since you've been back in Vegas? Or did you guys just work this up real quick to put these kids in their place?

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't take any time to get insubordination is a-okay as long as you're incredibly talented.

SPEAKER_01

I think a lot of people probably agree with you on that. I think there's a lot of people that have really made that their bread and butter.

SPEAKER_02

It's basically has it follows the uh back to Star Trek, it follows the strange new worlds, you know, where they every other episode they're violating some sort of serious law.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like no first contact, no first contact. Yeah. We have to, though. One person on our ship is in danger. But there's an entire civilization that doesn't know about space travel.

SPEAKER_02

We need to watch um this is sidebar, but we need to watch payback sometime. Okay. All right. Some other time. Um and Bill Duke's in it too.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, are you kidding?

SPEAKER_02

Holy cow.

SPEAKER_01

We should stop right now.

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Let's get going.

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Guys, thanks for coming. Thanks for watching, listening.

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Chris Christofferson's in it too.

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Everyone who's listening is like, oh good, it's almost over. Um, it's not though. So anyway, she convinces Lauren Hill to come back after Lauren Hill has that um interesting scene at the piano where you said when the other the novice nun how long is she gonna be a novice nun's what I want to know. When do you transfer from one?

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Sister Mary or Sister Robert. Sister Mary Robert, yeah.

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And you're and she was like, oh, say what you said about coming into the church.

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I guess I don't remember.

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When they were like acted surprised that she that she came in and heard them singing.

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Oh, I don't remember what I said.

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Oh, it was funny.

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What did I say?

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What did I say?

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What did I say? What did I say? Did Clark do that?

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Yeah.

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No, do you remember what I said?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you were like, why are they surprised that we're playing the piano where I live at work in this small little room? It was much funnier. Don't just ignore. Cut that. Cut it. But that is beautiful on the recording, the soundtrack. They do the entire song from beginning to end, and it is really, really pretty. It was the first time I'd ever actually heard that song. I don't remember ever singing it in church.

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It was pretty.

SPEAKER_01

I'm telling you that's where they put it on.

SPEAKER_02

They're worth watching. It's so funny, like critics just crapped all over this thing. Um it did well, I mean, it did find it.

SPEAKER_01

It didn't matter because they were all singing and dancing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's just like on one hand, you have these people who hate it. It's kind of well, it is a comedy, but you know how a lot of comedies, critics just people do not know where to how to rate a comedy.

SPEAKER_01

Is it just because funny is personal?

SPEAKER_02

I guess it's also super circumstantial. Yeah. Like, you know. Yeah, we go, we can go, we can go down that road some other time. But it is just interesting how many people crapped on this film, but it how well it did and how much it influenced other people. Yeah. But it's it's obviously if you're just you're in it for the it's like watching a kung fu movie.

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Yeah.

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Like you're not you don't care about the plot for most kung fu movies. You just there for the music. There's other kind of music. And we won't talk about those ever?

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At all.

SPEAKER_02

Should we have an episode where we just talk about those?

SPEAKER_01

I didn't catch what you said, actually. Say it. You better say it. Swallow your wadi and say it.

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Movies. I'm talking about action movies. Oh, okay. All c all sorts of action.

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I like action movies.

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Hot merging action.

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Hot merging action. Like Mitchell.

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Like Mitchell. Alright, continue.

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Uh okay. I think it's hilarious. Oh, Happy Day is a great scene. I don't have much to say about that.

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Do you Oh, uh yes, I do. I like, and this happens kind of twice. Kind of kind of there's two things that happen twice.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

One is the I guess the spreading the dissemination of of information, important information via eavesdropping. They really love to use that trope.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It saves a lot of time.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But also uh overcoming group. How do I say this to be let's just say this things are going poorly.

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And then all of a sudden a key change comes in.

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And then oh my god, the roof blows up and then a second key change.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah.

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And he's up in falsetto territory. He is great in the key changes, are very powerful.

SPEAKER_01

Now, speaking of, we did watch the 30-year reunion of Oh Happy Day, and I just it didn't land quite the same. They were all 30 years older.

SPEAKER_02

It was fine. I mean, good for them for doing that. Yeah, and he got up there. They didn't have the uh same piano player, did they? Did they have was he playing?

SPEAKER_01

I didn't I didn't notice.

SPEAKER_02

He's gotta be the he's he has to be the guy playing, right?

SPEAKER_01

He was playing, you could tell he was playing O Happy Day because you could see the reflection and he was actually playing because it was just chords and I could I was watching to see if it matched and it looked legit to me.

SPEAKER_02

But you could tell the you could tell he was a legit musician by his ponytail and his belt.

SPEAKER_01

Oh right. Yeah. The belt for sure.

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Yeah.

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But he had a beeper.

SPEAKER_02

He was a good piano player, like some of the stuff that he was doing, if that was him.

SPEAKER_01

Then there's a few cutscenes where she's like helping different people sing and she's like helping Lauren Hill match pitch. Which is so silly. She's like, uh Yeah, the way she does it is ridiculous. If you were actually trying to learn, no one would would have the time. They'd be like, just sing the note. But also, like, she's so clearly beyond trying to match pitch that this is not what you would be spending your time on with her.

SPEAKER_02

Um I did I did want to ask, I'm glad you're doing this because I wanted to ask her.

SPEAKER_01

They were like, do do do, and she was like, huh, huh? And she's like, again.

SPEAKER_00

Like, okay.

SPEAKER_02

And she's getting all frustrated because she's playing her. She's like, oh can't get it.

SPEAKER_01

Can't get it. Yeah, she's working on it by herself. And when she was practicing with her headphones, the next scene when her mom's yelling at her, she's just reading lyrics off a lyric sheet. I mean, there are there is some music in there too, but she's just reading lyrics off of like a printed That whole exchange. It reminded me of when King Triton is yelling at Ariel. She's like, but Daddy, if you would just listen. And she's just screaming loud. That's great.

SPEAKER_02

That's great. Uh what's that actress's name? What is it? Uh it is I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

She's pretty.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she is. Uh her last name is Ralph. I know that. She's a singer. Um I just know her last name.

SPEAKER_01

I think she was sad that she didn't have any singing lines. Maybe she had a song that got cut. I know.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Cheryl Lee Ralph. Yeah. She's uh she was in Moesha.

SPEAKER_01

In what?

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Moesha.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, Mo's up Brandy. Brandy Moesha.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think so. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway. Um Then they have to raise money to go to their oh, I wrote music equals drugs. They basically treat music like like the mom treats her wanting to sing like she's doing crack cooking and selling her body and stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Um, it's just a it's just a song, mama. Yeah, it's just singing a song, huh?

SPEAKER_02

Did you ever see the South Park with the uh with the musicals? Where the guy the dad is like the dad's super abusive of like one of the but he's like a he's like a musical fanatic and he's talks like this all the time and he's like I'm slapping, you're like, I'm slapping, you slept in, you slept in, you slapping That's what she should have done.

SPEAKER_01

That's what she should have done. Where was Matt Stone at this time? Um He was making Mitchell.

SPEAKER_02

No, cannibal the musical.

SPEAKER_01

Oh sorry, that's what I meant.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, 1983, yeah, he might have been.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, then they have to raise money. I know it's only 1993, but don't you think that because on the permission swarm it shows May 3rd to May 4th or whatever, like it shows in overnight, so they definitely stayed overnight. So they had to drive a 14-hour round trip and stay overnight for, I don't know, 30 kids and a handful of teachers. How much would you need to raise in order to realistically do that, even in 1993?

SPEAKER_02

I'd say somewhere between uh$1,920 and uh$2,000.

SPEAKER_01

That's uh the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Plus, they probably had to pay to go, like probably like a fee.

SPEAKER_02

What are you, some sort of uh band boosters treasure or something?

SPEAKER_01

I said I hope they weren't paying by the mile. We pay four dollars a mile.

SPEAKER_02

So no, it was pretty crazy. I love the how they raise money. Okay, I love this. This community, I'm yeah, they haven't done anything. This community's terrible. This, you know, it's no one cares about anything. Yet they get I don't know what are they, two thousand people calling. Yeah, seven minutes dancing in the street.

SPEAKER_01

And also, doesn't it look like they should have definitely raised more than two thousand dollars with all the money baskets, even if even if all of those just had ones in them.

SPEAKER_02

I like I kind of like the uh the illusion, the religious allusion to uh baskets of people donating.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the loaves and fishes.

SPEAKER_02

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01

Um all right. Good job, Bill Duke. Okay, so they make they make a huge deal out of saying that they're not gonna close the school at the end of the year, they're gonna close it at the end of the semester. Which would which would lead a person to believe that it's some other time besides May. Right? Because that's when school gets out.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But this contest is in May. And so I said if the contest is in May, when does the school year end? If the semester they're just gonna get that contest in right before the semester ends, but then potentially there's another semester. It's just like they didn't care. You know, to make the timeline make any sense at all. I said, Who was in charge of these details? And she because when she forges her name on the when Lauren Hill forges her name and sneaks out to go to this choir trip.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my and and there's the post-it notes everywhere, just be like, in case you're an idiot and don't know that she's not her mom, yeah, we're gonna put seven million post-it notes of her practicing her mom's signature. Just to let you know. I love the um I I had a couple you'd made me think of a couple things. The I wrote when they're all the the montages in this are great. Can we can we agree on that?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, for sure, yes.

SPEAKER_02

There was one where they were all washing the window. There's like that entire how many kids are there? Thirty?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

They're all washing the same window. They look like they look like a look like a zombie movie. It's just like, what are they doing?

SPEAKER_01

They're just like deadpan, repetitive motion.

SPEAKER_02

They know how to sing really well.

SPEAKER_01

They do not they don't know how to wash more than one window. They don't know how to divide it, divide and conquer. Then they get to the competition, they're about to go on, flash back to San Francisco, they find out she's a lounge singer, so they gotta get down there. The men have to get down there with crisp that she's Sister Mary Fake.

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Sister Mary Fake.

SPEAKER_01

And of course, their performance is unbelievable. When they say take off the robes, your teacher says take off your robes, and like, what, what? I don't know, just take off your robes, and then they go out and they have on their like their street clothes. Frank A's got like his old toddler overalls on. He looked like Teddy Ruxpin. Or um my buddy. That's what he looked like, my buddy.

SPEAKER_02

He totally looked like my buddy. That's great.

SPEAKER_01

And Lauren Hill takes three times to start her song because her mom's out there. I just want to say that I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to see the people in the audience because those lights are so bright you can't see unless they're like right in the front row.

SPEAKER_02

Also, it's amazing the the uh either the acoustics in that in that room or or just the technology in '93 was a lot better than I remember where they didn't need any microphones at all.

SPEAKER_01

Well, once they got past the original, she sang in the microphone.

SPEAKER_02

That's true.

SPEAKER_01

Once they got past that, then it was all good to go. They didn't need any more microphones after that.

SPEAKER_02

It's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01

Now, it might be that way. I mean, like, to be fair, when I was in college, we never used microphones. I I I didn't really even learn how to use a microphone until we started singing at church. Like I never sang with one.

SPEAKER_02

But don't they usually kind of hang down?

SPEAKER_01

True. Maybe they were.

SPEAKER_02

You know, I I ma'am, you're right. I maybe I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01

Who do you think choreographed? Do you think they choreographed their own stuff?

SPEAKER_02

Uh you know what I saw. No, I saw the name of somebody.

SPEAKER_01

Uh no, no, I mean in the in the world of the movie.

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Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think Whoopie choreographed it? No, they didn't. They but they had like they were basically a show choir. And the rest of the choirs were like pretty much.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I in my in my memory, I know I'm not answering your question, but in my memory, that that huge group was way more militant and impressive looking.

SPEAKER_00

They look like just lumpy white kids. We were kids.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. We were young.

SPEAKER_02

I think it was the stomp. I clearly remember the stomp.

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The stomp when they turn.

SPEAKER_02

So in my head, they all look like Ivan Drago. You know, from Rocky Four, like Dolph Longren.

SPEAKER_01

Um then so then like the men are like trying to find her, and then they realize like it's good that they're doing this, even if she's not alone, even if she's not a real nun, and so then they use a nasty-looking giant sausage to knock Chris to lock Crisp up in a closet.

SPEAKER_02

They turned on him so quickly. So they're driving there with a some sort of I don't know, the guy looked like French Stuart.

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With some sort of French Stuart nun.

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Stuart nun monk man with no driver's license, you know, just going over like jumping barriers.

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Driving on the wrong side of the road.

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Driving on the wrong side of the road.

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Into oncoming traffic.

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With like the you know, the head of the whole operation in the back, by the way, in the middle.

SPEAKER_01

Like that was kind of a And he has a night, a well-timed JC.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Oh yeah, that actually was kind of like the irony there was kind of fun. But they are willing, they're just absolutely willing to break every kind of law, just super zealous to bust Catherine Mary Fake. Mary Catherine Mary. Catherine Mary Fake, also known as yet, yet like within seconds. They don't even like the the lackeys, so the the the principal guy, the guy with the the guy who maybe might have been hooking up with McGonagall.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think we're I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

They like they definitely were like some kind of spice there. Friends.

SPEAKER_01

They were friends with the quotes.

SPEAKER_02

So, anyways, him. He the kids are nice to him, and then all of a sudden he's like, Well, I guess I can't, I gotta stop, I gotta stop James Coburn from ruining this thing. The other guys just I don't even think he tells them, hey, we're gonna help. They just pick up and they're willing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

This guy who they just broke all sorts of traffic laws for.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and they're gonna lock him in a closet.

SPEAKER_02

They're gonna lock him in a closet with a sausage. Ruin his tie. His tie was a mess one by the time he got it.

SPEAKER_01

He looked rough. He didn't have a lot of redeeming qualities, that's for sure. So but then the way that they just first of all, the three administrators who originally said they were gonna close the school are at the competition and they don't know that that's the school they're gonna close. Not very believable. Right. First of all. Second of all, Okay. I was thinking about it. The way they just tie up the crisp plot, they don't let him speak, and then they just move on. Okay. Okay, all right. Sounds good. We won't close the school anymore. You guys are definitely gonna have a lot of money now, right? Because you won this contest once.

SPEAKER_02

They were in that school in the beginning. Like it was the same character. They were there. It was the same actor. Like I was wondering the same thing.

SPEAKER_01

Don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

The Finale Robes Reveal And Credits

SPEAKER_01

Don't know. That was one of those like who cares moments. Who cares about what time of year any of this is taking place? These details are not. You guys are here for the music. We all know it. So just get over it and move on.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then the credits. Oh my gosh. I also watched the credits.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, the credits were great.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, they're so good.

SPEAKER_02

More movies need to end that way.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Even if they're not musical. Singing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I love that.

SPEAKER_02

Everybody singing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that rewatching that white background. It was as good as I wanted it to be when we rewatched it. Because I started showing, and Carolyn hasn't seen it, our daughter. She needs to watch it. She would love it.

SPEAKER_02

It's fun. It is a fun, it's a fun movie.

SPEAKER_01

She's like a show choir girl too, so she would really appreciate the stuff. But I s when we I started watching it with her, but we didn't have time, so we just made it through the opening number. And I was like literally crying. Like I had all these emotions coming up. And then last night, every single song, I was crying through all of them.

SPEAKER_02

Were you crying when the suck when the kid what was the kid? I think his name was Kyle or Tyler or something. Did he disappear?

SPEAKER_01

Which one?

SPEAKER_02

The guy who was like the suck up in the beginning. He was like one of the main characters.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, and he never he just kind of out.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like he wasn't in the last. He probably was.

SPEAKER_01

He was, but he didn't have a part. Yeah, he just kind of got he didn't even get that sad little trio.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that trio That was sad. That trio was the female trio was great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that was actually a quartet, but Lauren Hill was in it. That's right. I didn't realize that. I thought I said this, I love this trio, but then there were four of them. But yeah, then those poor men that was just like a here's one thing you guys could do. Anyway, I loved it. I really appreciated you watching it with me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I had fun. It was uh it was a good pick. I try to see if there was anything else I wanted to say, but you know, I you know I always like to do that. I did notice that uh I like the baseball flying through the window. I feel like 90s movies had a lot of baseballs.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it fit right into its own time for sure.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it was super 90s. I mean it was early 90s. Early 90s, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like all the colors of the 80s were bleeding into the early 90s, but the pants were bigger, the shirts were tighter.

SPEAKER_02

They're talking about doing a sister act three.

SPEAKER_01

What? Is whoopsie gonna be in it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Uh Sister Mary Robert, that actress, who's age well, she's kind of an attractive older woman.

SPEAKER_01

I as I was looking at their faces last night, I was like, dude, when when this came out, I thought these women were old, and I'm like looking at them like, dude, they are pretty and they don't have any wrinkles. Like they're just like young women.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, what's her face? I don't know if I'm saying her name right. Kathy Najimmy, she was in hocus pocus. Like you're not sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

She's cute. Anyways, yeah, it was great. I like this the the cast was really solid.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, they just did not care about the stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, everybody's just yeah, didn't they? They're like, but it's not what we're here for. We're just Whoopi Goldberg thought.

SPEAKER_01

They filmed the entire movie that wasn't music in one day.

SPEAKER_02

She thought both movies were stupid. She didn't want to do them, but they Serafina, she wanted to do the movie Serafina, which I haven't seen, but and did basically she worked the deal with Disney where they're like, We'll fund it if you if you will do this. Please do these. Yeah, so she's like, fine. And then though that's how we all grab that's how I kind of has a little bit of Whoopi Goldberg in this movie has a little she almost has a little bit of attitude. Maybe it's just I'm just gonna be. She's kind of like, I don't care that I'm in this. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I kind of picked that up when she would say stuff like her character was like saying like kind of the mean stuff to the kids that almost felt above the level of the rest of the movie.

SPEAKER_02

It's like sort of like it was funny, almost fourth wall a little bit. It was.

SPEAKER_01

And it was funny, but it was like a little above everything else that was happening. Like it would have worked well if everyone else was acting to that level.

SPEAKER_02

Anyway, I enjoyed my sister act too, back in the habit experience.

SPEAKER_01

Same. I don't need to watch it again anytime soon, unless Caroline wants to, then I would watch it with her.

SPEAKER_02

Then you need to.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Alright, let's move on.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, let's go.

SPEAKER_01

So flaming lips. We are doing Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, part one.

SPEAKER_02

Part one. Do you know? Have you heard have you heard part two? I have never heard part robots. You've never heard part two?

SPEAKER_01

Is it on the album? Because I'm sure I have, but it's does not stand out in my mind. It's quite a departure from the album is called Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, is that right?

SPEAKER_02

Sounds like you're battling pink robots right now.

SPEAKER_01

I did. I won.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it is. That's the album name. And uh part two is it's an instrumental, and it's like it almost sounds well, it's meant to kind of sound like the fight.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Uh it's oh it's an instrumental. Super hip-hop heavy. This whole album's pretty hip-hop heavy. This album's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

It is a great album. I listen to it quite a lot.

SPEAKER_02

I listened to it and I listened to uh what's the other one? Um shoot. Keep talking about it.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots. I uh actually I've seen Flaming Lips twice in concert. Once they open for Cake and once they open for Beck.

SPEAKER_02

Now wait a minute. I wanna say I wanna say you've seen it three times? Three times. Seen them three times, because I've seen them once and I've never seen Cake.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you haven't? Oh, so maybe that's all we went. Is that when Dave went with us? Ranger Dave?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you know what I think it was.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, okay, so I've seen them three times. He used to have a cool shirt, but I don't know how I ever fit into it. And then I gave it to Clark and then now it's gone. Um not Clark's fault.

SPEAKER_02

I know I don't know why I had to drag him through the mud. I know, sorry, buddy. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01

What are you doing over there?

SPEAKER_02

I'm trying to find the name of the other album I listened to. Yeah. They've put out so much stuff. They've been around since 86.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they are. I mean, how old are they now?

SPEAKER_02

Shoot. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Do you realize it's a great song? I'd like to re-listen to the song.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, The Soft Bulletin. I listened to The Soft Bulletin, too.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

The album their 99 album right before this. Uh-huh. It's so so they're they're so um. They're I'm gonna say this. They're kind of they're kind of like us in the sense that they talk about death a lot, but they're not dark. Or maybe you might think we're dark, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

You probably don't even like it.

SPEAKER_02

It's more this it's more of like a if you can't beat them, join them kind of philosophy. It's uh why not? But that's like I guess Wayne lost his dad. I don't know the full story behind it, but I think about the time Soft Bulletin came out, feel free to correct me. I would love to get some music, some engagement. Please correct us. Tell me I'm wrong. Around the time Soft Bulletin came out, and I think they've always sort of been like that. Like they've always been kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but and I I I really they're great. Like I I know I just said it, but they're great. Yeah, they are I love I love both of these albums. They're super solid, but they're very they're the lyrics are they're dark, but they're not. Yeah they're they're like do you know that Yoshimi is a song about a girl fighting cancer?

SPEAKER_01

No, I did not know that. Aww.

SPEAKER_02

Uh but it was so it was based on a group.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that makes sense. She's gotta be strong fight them, so she's taking lots of vitamins.

SPEAKER_02

It's so it's it's kind of about that, but it's also I don't know which came first and how these things jive together, but there was a a a band, I think uh I I had it written down here somewhere, but oh oh oh I o Yoshimi P Wei.

SPEAKER_01

I saw that when I was searching for stuff, but I didn't look at it.

SPEAKER_02

They they were listening to that to that group, and they're saying that it sounds like she's fighting a bunch of robots. So they kind of created this song, but somehow some cancer got worked in there. But it's got Do You Realize on that album, which is a song about death.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But it's that song is a masterpiece.

SPEAKER_01

It is, and it's like it it's like it it bleeds in and out of its own self. I don't know. Yes how to describe that. Yeah. It's a real visual for it.

SPEAKER_02

But Yoshimi is like part one is what we're talking about here.

SPEAKER_01

It's probably their most basic song. I don't know that we could do a lot of their other music. There's so much going on.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we this was kind of hard to do though, because it's so much we had to leave Absolutely. Like the drums just killed. I mean, there's a lot of great stuff going on. This is like one of the most This is one of the most beautiful songs that also has that's juxtaposed by silly lyrics.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like it's so silly. I know the cancer thing, of course, is not silly, but if you just take the song at face value, unless you are actually robots, it's gonna sound silly.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna I am gonna use this this week for uh I have some people I can use this with and talk about the cancer part.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, great. Maybe fake maybe fact check, do a little corrections for me.

SPEAKER_01

They won't. I'll just lie.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

I mean I do think it's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We're not in the market of lying to you guys like on purpose.

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Yeah, no.

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We think what we're saying is true.

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Or unless we're joking.

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Joke lying.

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That's called there's a type type of lying called joking. I don't know. Joke lies. So some people don't care about it.

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I was just kidding.

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Yeah.

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Well it's not gonna you. Um But yeah, so we sang it.

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I'm trying to think of other songs like um uh this is getting to my B sides a little bit, but like Yeah, you're only supposed to have one B song. Like Ween.

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Yeah.

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You know, like sit Mr. Will You Please Help My Pony? You know that song?

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Uh I feel like we've listened to it.

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It's really nice. It's just a really nice song. Ween is probably the biggest as far as bands that are super talented, can make some very beautiful music and just can't help themselves.

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They have to be weird.

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It's gotta be weird. Yeah. But flaming lips are kind of in that same category. A little less, a little less silly, I would say. But they're they're great.

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Well, when I met them, they were very nice. The only person I remember meeting is Wayne. He's like their front man. They always have bubbles and like people in furry. Like the reason we were talking about furries at the top is because they have like life-size people dressed up like cartoon animals, dogs, cats, things like that.

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And that I I think I don't think they're I think that was just sort of one of those things that kind of organically happened.

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Yeah, it was not has nothing to do with like furry.

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Like, I don't think they were ever like this is this is great. We're representing this.

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You guys need to dress up as dogs when you come to the I I always thought it was just like they had like fans that just started doing it. Yeah, I thought like it was just like organically. I mean it's very it's it's very ethereal, their concerts. But anyway, I met Wayne, he was very pleasant. Fine.

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Seems like he's probably my sister made fun of me because I told him and Beck that they did a great job.

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She was like, oh, great job. So these like talking over there.

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I think she likes me.

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And then one of them, I think Wayne, I think Wayne had a girl in the back and she was wearing a shirt that said I can't remember what state, but you know the blanks for lovers, like Virginia's for lovers. Well, I think they're from Utah. I don't don't say that. I feel like her shirt might have said Utah's for lovers. And she was like, Oh, Wayne. Like she was I just remember Oklahoma's. Oklahoma is for lovers. That's what it was. Oklahoma was for lovers, is what her shirt said. And she I just remember my sister and I believe she was very annoying, and she kept saying, Hoween, oh Wayne, you're so funny.

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I fight robots.

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Uh but yeah. Not I don't have anything really compelling to say about it.

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This song was kind of personal for us, I believe.

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It was, yes. It was on our birthing playlist.

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Yes. I was trying to yeah, I think so. I was trying to make a playlist for Leslie that would be kind of like fun but chill. But chill at the same time.

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This was at the top.

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It was called, I think the actual the playlist is actually called Yoshimi. Yoshimi Battles of Pink Robots Volume One or Part One. So sorry.

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Yeah, so the children were both born to this song.

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Kind of, yeah.

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For sure. They definitely came out when this song was playing. And I you can't say otherwise. You can't prove otherwise.

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Battle the Pink placenta.

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Previa. Placenta previa. Ugh. Being pregnant.

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Supposed to be having it's supposed to have lots of vitamins.

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Yeah. Did you eat any of it?

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I did not.

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You shared it with the doctor. It cures cancer. It has some stem cells.

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Oh. I don't know if it does.

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We can plant a tree.

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Yeah, so this song, I do love the strumming in it.

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So we so you played keys and you kind of played that little I tried to get a few single notes in there, but I can do it the second you turn on the camera, I'm like, I don't know how to play the piano anymore.

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No, it you fooled me, huh? But the strumming, you know, I don't normally do those full-bodied strums like that, but the way he does it, and I don't know if it's editing or if it's muting or if it's a combination.

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Yeah, I figured you could just do it muted, but I like it.

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Opening, the way it's opens, is yeah, I tried to kind of mimic it.

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Yeah, I value it again.

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I think what they were doing was some sort of like something with a track. There had a bit some editing magic.

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And the fact that it's in C lends itself to being able to improvise on the keyboard and play whatever you want. It sort of sounds like that's what they were trying to do, too. Like you said, what you're doing sounds very similar to what is recorded.

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Gotcha. Yeah. It's but the It's all very open.

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Those F major sevens.

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Oh man, that F major seven, yeah, it's the way you play it, and when it goes. It is one of my favorite chords to play in any song that I've ever played. Like the fact the whole reason I was because I was gonna bring in like a you looper pedal and do like some soloing work while you were, you know, I had all these of them, but but honestly, and this is so cheesy, but this yeah, like what when I was just kind of playing around with it and they But she knows that like I was like, oh that I'm gonna I'm gonna play this song around that chord.

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Yeah, like because it is but because they leave it open like that, they add that E back in there, that pretty much makes every single note in the C scale is now just part of the melody all the time.

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Well, to that point, I think this is what you're talking about. Because it goes, this is I don't know if this is how they play it, but I this is how I played it when when you're coming off of that. Bum bum bum bum. I I didn't play the G this way, you played it, left the E open.

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The G6.

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And then you could even play it up to the C, and it still sounds like kind of ethereal. That shape is one of my new favorite shapes, though.

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Oh, we taught you a new shape, a new favorite shape, I mean. New shapes, new cool tricks, cool tricks, tricks, cool tricks.

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We gotta do a yoga gap episode sometimes.

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Oh my gosh, we'd have to watch them. Don't bite your friends. Your child been a friend today.

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Oh, yeah, great, great song.

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Thanks for I this was my pick. I wanted to wanted to do it. And uh you sang it. Played keys, I played guitar. I think I sang a little bit. Yeah, I did sing a little bit of the city.

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All right, did you have to go did you go down some cover rabbit holes?

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No. Okay. I didn't. Are you happy to hear that? Yes. There aren't many.

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Oh, really? Yeah. It's such an easy song.

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I mean, well, there's probably a lot of amateurs. I honestly meant to do that this morning, and I I had to cover my own side. I had to cover my own song at church. So I chose to practice for the for the for what I had to do there. And uh you can check it on YouTube if you'd like. I'll put a link. Um but all right.

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Well then who's your cover?

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But I did read that there aren't any really like major covers of this. There are some like orchestra, some orchestras.

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Orchestral.

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Yeah. Orchestral. I I do want to check out some covers. My cover, if I could have hear anybody cover the song, I think uh super, I like to hear Super Tramp.

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Oh wow. Do they sing the logical song?

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Yes.

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Okay, yeah.

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Yes. Clark, Clark, uh, we were listening to Breakfast in America, which is what logical and and many other hits are on. Uh-huh. And he was like, has this been the same band the whole time? He's like, I love these guys. This is great.

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There's hope.

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I was like, I mean, that album is.

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We're always trying to get our son to embrace his incredible musical talent and he just keeps resisting.

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That is like they are a killer band. But yeah, Super Tramp, I think, would I like to hear what they would do with this.

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Okay. Do you want to guess mine? Or do you want me to just tell you? I'll just tell you. Well, just tell me. Modest mouse.

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Oh. Yeah. It's kind of uh yeah, I like that.

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I think so. Be good. It'd be a little bit more yelling.

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Do you listen to a lot of modest mouse?

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I have to take it in doses.

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They'd be uh they'd be they'd be bleeding some part two into part one.

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Would they?

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I think they would.

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Okay. Well, that might be the perfect mashup then. Alright, your B side.

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My B side, I'm gonna go with uh I I got a feeling that we're gonna have the same one.

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I don't think so.

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You don't?

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I don't think so.

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Robots flight of the Concords.

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Oh, that's a good one. Dang, no. Yeah, that's a good one. No, I went more mainstream. I went with kids, MGMT.

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Nice. That would be they'd be cool to be cool to hear them cover it too. I feel like they're I love MGMT.

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Me too. We're we're we're gonna do uh remember when we saw them, we saw their video of them.

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Oh yeah, like when they were on a college.

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Yeah, they were like before they were anybody.

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Yeah, there there's there's a few songs that I would like to cover. One is the uh I can't I can never remember the name of it. It's like my favorite song.

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It's but it's To Kill a Monster, you need a movie. Cut it, cut its brains out.

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It has like three, it's one of those songs that has that's like three songs in one.

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Okay.

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Like Band on the Run or something.

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Alright, soundtrack.

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Um Big Hero Six.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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I said Arcane. I love that movie.

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I said Arcane.

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Mm-hmm.

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We did that together.

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Look at us go.

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Two animated movies. Oh my gosh, of course.

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Of course, it had to be very advanced uh anime or yours was computer animation.

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Big Hero Six might be. Was that Pixar?

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Yeah, but it's Disney.

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That might have been the kids were little. That might be my favorite. That might be my favorite Disney.

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He's a great the Baymax is a great character.

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The movie's awesome.

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He's his comic relief is so beautiful.

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Of course, a family member dies in the beginning. Calls the classic Disney formula. Disney formula. Child dies. Child dies. Teenager, it's fine.

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A post child.

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A poster child.

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A post child.

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A post child. Oh, I see what you're doing. Yeah.

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He used to be a child.

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I said the strumming in the beginning sounded like karate chops.

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Oh yeah.

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There you go.

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All right.

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Get that in there.

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I think we're done. Yeah, this is good.

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What how many how many minutes did we have?

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Oh, we're over 90.

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Oh, we are. How far over ninety?

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I don't know for sure because I didn't time what time we started. But at two o'clock we were 20 minutes in and it's three minutes and twenty-two. It's three twenty-two.

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It's three minutes and twenty-two.

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PM.

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A clock? The president?

Where To Find Us And Final Thoughts

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In April? All right, guys. Thanks for coming.

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You gotta go to YouTube.

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Yeah.

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We need 62 subscribers by June or Rob's quitting.

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Uh yeah, we'll get them. I got I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a couple Hail Mary's out there. We haven't really We haven't tried it all. Here's the thing.

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Two. I'm gonna time you. Go.

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Do you want me to just quit? It doesn't matter. No one cares. Hey, if you're listening, thank you. That's really probably where I should end. I will just say, would you want to listen to it? Let's say you let's say you're looking for for some reason you're looking for Cannibal the Me. Sister Act Two. How's that?

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I'd listen to somebody riff on something I would have to do.

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I would love to. Yes. But it takes us about 45 minutes to get to the topic. But uh this is my favorite 45 minutes of the week. So I'm gonna.

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When I used to really be into my favorite murder, that was my favorite murder.

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But here's the thing like we no one knows us. Right. They don't have a reason to listen to it. It's just like I would rather listen to something that just goes straight into Sister Act 2 if I want to listen to Sister Act 2. You know? I think we gotta get people to know us. I gotta I think the shorts are the way to go.

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All right. Okay. Future minutes are you guys. Thanks for coming by the way. Thanks, guys. Love you. Bye. Hope the mess is very easy.

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Goodbye.