The Wanderers (1979): Everything an Adolescent Boy Wants, Nothing He Needs | Ep 34

We stand “in line” for an Outkast concert and let the conversation wander from parenting math and bedtime TV to a full-on breakdown of a movie that entertains us while also making us feel genuinely uneasy. We end in our happy place, geeking out over Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, why Outkast keeps evolving, and what it really takes to learn a song well enough to perform it. 
• third-child “dog years” and what content feels age-appropriate 
• why 24 still works as a cliffhanger machine 
• the Jeffries Data Sheet and why we want it to become a searchable app 
• What We Do in the Shadows as a mockumentary and the Norma Tanega theme song 
• The Wanderers (1979) as coming-of-age drama with genre whiplash 
• the classroom scene, what it normalizes, and why it hits so wrong 
• soundtrack highs, scene pacing lows, and the parts that feel unresolved 
• Outkast’s debut album, Organized Noize, and Southern hip hop history 
• covering rap songs by singing the whole verse and practicing with intent 
Hey, why don't you go ahead and write in um the comments? What age, what yeah, how you think it works? Dog years for the third child. Way in on that. 

Here's the Jeffries Data Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ldtSRbUtmIVvhDSMZiClQS02gNFfIjFqE9OgBdoM85M

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Transcript

Theme Song And Cold Open

SPEAKER_00 0:00

On this episode of The Audience Will Like It.

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But I wrote, I missed the days when groups of high school boys used to hang out on the street to cop feels instead of inside playing video games.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

That's really applying yourself. Every single scene in this movie has is premium entertainment value for an adolescent boy.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Maybe as someone who was never an adolescent boy, that's why for me. I just remember what it was funny, but was it trying to be funny?

SPEAKER_00 0:29

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 0:29

It was a zombie movie, but was it trying to be a zombie movie?

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Kind of everything. So like they're they're almost like hip-hop Beatles in the way that they constantly evolved and it always worked. The key. Okay, two two two keys are gonna sound so stupid. If you want to do a song well, know learn the song really well.

SPEAKER_03 0:47

Know the song.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Say. And two, practice the song a lot.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

Hey, I think you can be a teacher. Sing to me while I take notes.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Oh, okay. Hey, how'd you know I was gonna sing to you?

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Ah, it's got a feeling.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Two married friends in a basement room.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Oh, well yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10

Yeah, I just wondered when you were ever going to be able to sing it without hesitation.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

With two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his own song.

SPEAKER_03 1:27

Oh wow. It's been a minute since it's been two weeks. We have, it's been two weeks. This is good though.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

This is our theme song. He kissed her lips. Cause she was still oh, sorry. Warm. The audience.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

They'll like this least of all. It's okay though. I liked it. I liked it. Isn't that all that matters?

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Yes. No, it's not. The audience. Oh yeah, no, it doesn't matter if the audience likes it. I always forget the name of our show.

SPEAKER_03 2:08

It's good if they don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

How important it is to us uh for us to devote ourselves to the uh continuity of that claim that is the title. You ready?

SPEAKER_03 2:19

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Okay.

The Show Premise And Outkast Twist

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Hey guys, this is a show called The Audience Will Like It. It's a podcast. It's also a video a video podcast.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

A video cast? Hey, what does pod refer to?

SPEAKER_00 2:31

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 2:33

Um like you're inside of a green bean?

SPEAKER_00 2:37

I don't know. Joe Rogan invented it. He did? No.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

Shut up.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Uh what does pod stand for? Why don't you introduce uh this podcast?

SPEAKER_03 2:46

Okay, well, welcome to our show, you guys. My name is Leslie Shoecraft.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Make sure you tell them we're standing in line.

SPEAKER_03 2:51

And I'm the wife of Rob Shoecraft. Um this is a line simulation podcast. Waiting in line simulation. So if you like waiting in line, if you don't like waiting in line, you might also be in the right place. But you know, we it's just like as if we were waiting in line. You can see here that we're waiting in line. We have some turnstiles, stanchion type material here.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

I've learned a lot of great words of great terminology for those metal bars that keep you in line. I had known turnstiles, I just hadn't really used it very often. Yeah. Stanchions.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

That's a definite that's actually the velvet rope, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Yeah, but I think you could probably have well, I guess I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 3:27

We do have a little bit of red on here.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 3:30

See, it's a stanchion.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

That was a strategy.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Um and so basically what we're doing is waiting in line for a concert, and I'll finish and then you can talk. Okay. And we're waiting in line for a concert every time you tune in. You never know who we're gonna be going to see. This this night, we're gonna be going to see Outcast.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

Outcast.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

But the super secret twist is that it's not gonna be Andre 3000 and Big Boy. Look at you. It's gonna be Rob Leslie boys. That's us guys. The boycrafts. Um, and while and while we're waiting for the concert, you're gonna you just never know what kind of things you might talk about with your waiting in line partner or the stranger next to you. So that's the premise. And now you know what a podcast is for here and also what is the word pod stand for.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

iPod. It's an iPod iPod broadcast.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

Apple. They just are everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

Aren't they special? Freaking hate Apple.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

I know you do.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

They make a good product and they know how to uh they got a tight business model. They just irritate me. They're a little proprietary. So do so does my family.

SPEAKER_03 4:36

Um what?

SPEAKER_00 4:37

And friends.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

I don't go around tootin' Apple's horn. I just use their products.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

Sometimes I just get a little just a little bit of a guilt trip. Not too much from our from market.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

Oh, well, yeah, because your your messaging ruins our messages.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

Right.

SPEAKER_03 4:52

Well, I can suppose like someone was outside playing with the snow.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

There are dozens of us.

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Dozens.

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From Rust of Development,

Third-Child Dog Years Parenting Debate

SPEAKER_00 5:00

one of the ultimate bedtime sitcoms. One of them. I was reading up on uh while going over. Oh, what?

SPEAKER_03 5:07

Well, you know what, my friend Holly.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Oh she was we were laughing at Do you know what comma my friend Holly because I'm your friend Rob, I'm your husband.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

You know what, my friend Holly?

SPEAKER_00 5:16

Remember, remember me.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Wait, am I still warm? Uh anyway, Holly was saying that she wanted to find a new bedtime sit comment. And she was like, I really wish it could be arrested development, but people at that I keep asking people and they keep telling me that it's not good for a seven-year-old for her family to watch. And I guess I have to agree, but it's the third child, so does he count, Holly?

SPEAKER_00 5:42

He doesn't count. I'd say there's probably she should know.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

She's the youngest of three. There's probably oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

Then she's she got away with a lot, right?

SPEAKER_03 5:49

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

So I would say this is interesting. Hear that, Holly. Here's an interesting conversation, Holly. Uh, or to anybody out there. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 5:59

Ah.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

There should be like a you know how the like we have a dog here. Yes. Name's Gruber. Somebody brought him in line.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

Oh, he smells like a skunk. Smells like he brought a skunk in line with him.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Grober, did you bring a skunk in line with you, sir? Oh, no one can. He's trying to talk, though.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

Be quiet. Be quiet. What is it, buddy?

SPEAKER_00 6:17

He's so concerned. All right, so. Oh, so dog years. Uh-huh. You know, you multiply by seven, except the first year is 11 years.

SPEAKER_03 6:28

Okay, so like your third child.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

But is there other third child years? When it comes to what kind of content to show them, how much effort to put into them to maintain their well-being.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

I feel like there's a there's a bit of inflation. I'm sure it's on a curve, I'm sure it's on like a chance.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

I feel like it's it's diminishing returns of parenting by the time you get to the third parent. I mean the third child.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Or the third parent. Three different sets of parents raising. All right. So I'm gonna say, what would you say? Um I would say that but by the time my sister Julia, who's there's a nine-year difference, and I pay I paved away pretty good. My brother and my brother came through and just basic everything else. And then Julia just got her own boat.

SPEAKER_03 7:12

Basically.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Like if I got, you know, something brought something home like Sound Garden or Stone Temple Pilots or Having Forbid Dave Matthews band. Um, which I don't really know what I was doing with a Dave Matthews band.

SPEAKER_03 7:44

I don't like I don't like Dave Matthews.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

I don't love Dave Matthews.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

I don't hate him, I just he's not for me.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

This there's a there's a there are a lot of songs that I do like or parts of songs that I like. Respect him as a musician, songwriter, etc. Don't like his voice. It's pretty much what it comes down to. Okay, so um I would say that she she so she could I she my mom was like listening to like 50 cent candy.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

What's the uh take me to the candy shop shop.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

It's like they were singing and I was like, this there's no way you would be singing along with me in this like this song is about some stuff, anyways. I would say you four years. Holly? Yeah, four years. Whatever, whatever your age is after Okay, so he's eleven.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

What's your potty? He's essentially eleven, Holly. We think that you can watch rest of development this summer with your family.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

You think about even like um like Tommy watching diehard with us?

SPEAKER_03 8:35

Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Austin and Clark were like ten and eight, so Tommy was like four or five.

SPEAKER_03 8:41

Three, he's five years younger than that. Uh Austin.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Okay, anywho, that's an interesting conversation. We'd love to. Hey, why don't you go ahead and write in um the comments?

SPEAKER_03 8:51

What age, what yeah, how you think it works? Dog years for the third child. Way in on that.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

For the third child dog years. Or yeah, let's let's leave it at that. Okay. Okay. Um we can talk a little 24.

Watching 24 And TV Logic

SPEAKER_00 9:04

You wanna oh, how did you say while you're holding a laptop up in my face with the two? We've been watching 24.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

We have. We did not I never watched it ever. Did you watch any of them? Okay, so this is all new for you as well.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

It's all new for me. My parents I remember they were talking about how they were binge washing. Yeah. We're we're in it about a quarter century uh after it aired. I think they were both.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

Gee, when you put it like that, it makes it sound really old.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

I know. I feel like I should be wearing a type top hat and mascot.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

And uh high-waisted pants, turtleneck pants.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Anytime you say the word century, you have to dress like uh like you're from another one, a different one.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Perfect. From the past.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Very elegant, elegantly phrased.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Anyway, it's great.

SPEAKER_00 9:50

It is great.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

In case you're not familiar with 24, it came out in 2001.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:55

And every episode takes place in one hour over a 24-hour period, and so thus there are 24 episodes per season, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 10:03

I think.

SPEAKER_03 10:04

We don't know yet, because what are we on? Like 10?

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Like halfway through the first season. Are we on 12? Something like that.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

I don't think we have made it to noon yet. It started at midnight.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

I think you're right.

SPEAKER_03 10:14

So one thing I'm looking forward to finding out.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

We watched three in a row. That was like the I I want to know what you're looking forward to finding out, but I think that was the first time we watched it three episodes of something in a row, and it just went right. What would have been the last time?

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Like I can't I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

I think we might have watched two of the I think we watched the Bus you last episode of Andor into Rogue One. That was kind of a bit of a yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:38

And we also, but I was gonna say, I feel like we watched a couple Sandmans back to back the last season that came out.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:45

I definitely watched a couple of Bridgertons back to back, but not three.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

So tell me what you want to find out.

SPEAKER_03 10:49

I'm excited to find out like in subsequent seasons if they all start at midnight. Or if they start at any time per day and then just go to the next day at the same time. Don't tell me. Do not write in. Do not comment.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Yeah, I I do I I got a lot of questions. That's that's definitely up there for me too.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

Do you have any loves or hates about the show?

SPEAKER_00 11:11

I mean, there's a lot of the there's a lot of stuff that's just little gotchas and loopholes and it's like.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

Well, you don't like how many times he racks a gun before he shoots it.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

No, that's that's that's just generally a TV slash movie thing. I I hate what I'm talking about, guys. Is when uh whoops, is when any variation is gonna be a good thing. We're gonna talk about guns, so trigger warning.

SPEAKER_03 11:36

Oh look at your gun. Go pun.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Um you take gun.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

Gun pun. Gun.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Somebody's got a gun up to somebody's whatever, pointing it at them.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

In this case, it's kefer Sutherland.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Kiefir. I always want to call him something else, but I'm not going to expand it. Jack Bauer. Jack Bauer. Is it okay if I burn up my adult family earmuffs up front?

SPEAKER_03 12:01

I don't want them in the show. Okay. So you can burn them after we're done recording. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Sometimes I like to say his name with a cue. I understand.

SPEAKER_03 12:07

I knew exactly what you were gonna say. I was just ignoring it.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

Okay. If I had a if only I was in his own.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

Uh you basically are getting there.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

I'm getting there, I gotta I gotta shave. But they got a gun, you know, they're pointing a gun threateningly anytime you point a gun at somebody's threatening. Right. Keep that in mind. Safety first. Finger off the trigger, right? But what they do is now when they're serious, like really serious.

SPEAKER_03 12:31

They like rack the pull back.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

You thought I was pointing a gun at you, you thought that was serious? Wait till I make it useful.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

Wait till I put a bullet in their chamber.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

They either rack the slide or pull the hammer back. Or it's just but racking the slide is the worst. Or shotgun.

SPEAKER_03 12:50

Yeah. It's just like But you can't do that again until you've shot one out, right? But they just keep showing it.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

Yeah, there's one scene I swear he racked it three times before he actually did it.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

It's when he was in that what is that thing where they're like in like it's a spillway? It's like a concrete river.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Yeah, it's what the in Terminator 2 where they're chasing, he's ch chasing him in the truck. Yeah. Is that thing called a spillway? Yeah, it's like the LA River kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

Yeah, I don't really know. I'm not familiar with what the purpose of that is.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Yeah, I'd say that's what it is. And I also think it's cool movie scenes for killing people and running from robots. Yeah. Yeah. And also LA's pretty progressive.

SPEAKER_03 13:26

I I just want to say, like, you're trying he's he's taking this guy for somewhere for like privacy. But like the only thing that stands out in this concrete river is your limousine. I don't feel like he's very hidden. He's not very well hidden, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

There are these kind of incogruous things that are they just don't quite work.

SPEAKER_03 13:45

Like go to an overpass.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

But I'm totally fine. I'm I'm going to it's I gotta say, as as m as goofy as some of the hacking scenes are, they could be so much worse. So much worse. I showed you that like that cloud, you know, that was NCIS, the two people on the cue.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

I mean that that looked like it was a parody.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

This isn't that bad. Like the way that what's it?

SPEAKER_03 14:07

But it wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

No, it wasn't. Yeah. It's it's it's un it's unfortunate. I'm glad they made it. But uh yeah. Any anywho, I love it. I love the I like a good cliffhanger setup. A show that's just made you made I feel like we've watched a lot of shows. Great shows lately, but the episodes are almost I don't want to say too good, but almost too standalone. Yeah, like TV. Like you don't feel like you have to watch the next one. Where 24 you're just like, oh my gosh. You know, they really that's that formula, they they they can make a good drug. So anything else you want to say about that fine show?

SPEAKER_03 14:44

I'm enjoying it.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

Yeah, okay. Me too. I hear the uh I hear it gets r I hear I hear it stays strong until like six season six or seven. One of them is look at us.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

We're like cool kids. We say six, seven.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

Moving on, twenty-four. So we've been watching that. We've been watching uh what we do in the show.

The Jeffries Data Sheet Explained

SPEAKER_00 15:08

If you don't know about our bedtime sitcoms, there's an app. Before we talk about what we do in the shadows, can I just talk about my sweet, sweet Jeffreys data sheet?

SPEAKER_03 15:17

Yeah, so this is a great plug for the Jeffries data sheet.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

Okay. I'm already rebuilding version two.

SPEAKER_03 15:23

Wow, rebuilding it.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Well, building it right now, so it's a it's a Google Sheet. Can you explain Jeffrey's data sheet?

SPEAKER_03 15:30

I can try. Is that kind of like a you kind of want to see what I think?

SPEAKER_00 15:34

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Okay, so it's a spreadsheet tool where it basically catalogs everything we've ever talked about in different categories. So, like my personal current favorite category is people we've mentioned on the show, and that's anyone from people in our personal lives to celebrities to theoretical people to ideas about people. Um, did you put the lyrics one on back in there?

SPEAKER_00 16:00

No, what what Leslie's talking about is I I I've I've been experimenting with different things we could put in here, a lot of inside jokes and goofy stuff like that. Um, but the evolution of the theme song that I always it has changed a lot.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

Anyway, also things you can look up that might be actually more meaningful to you would be like books we've talked about, movies we've talked about, music, um, artists, TV shows, uh I don't know, all kinds of stuff like that. So you can look at it and and it'll you could search. Can you does it have a search function?

SPEAKER_00 16:32

It doesn't. That's that's what I'm building. Basically, right now it's just a glorified Google sheet.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

And you have tabs at the bottom. I don't even know if it's really that glorified. It's you're right, it's not, it's just a Google sheet. But uh yeah, you could go through. I mean, there's thousands and thousands of entries. I separated them in discussions, references, and name checks. So discussion would be like our conversation about Jeffree's data sheet would be a discussion. Gotcha. Kind of a self-contained thing.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

There probably aren't very many discussions on there. I feel like we don't discuss no discussion.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Usually it winds up being anytime we talk about something for at least 45 seconds and it's complete thought. Although it it I've so I built the whole I built the whole thing with an AI code.

SPEAKER_03 17:14

Complete thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

Oh, no, I don't. No, I never have actually.

SPEAKER_03 17:19

Actually, Renee was laughing. My friend Renee, she'll be featured in the Renee in the Jeffries data sheet. She was laughing because she when she was listening to we did one recently where we were giving out movie superlatives, and she was like, Well, if Rob can't stop talking, then why would you you should just do less movies? But then she's like, and I realize it wouldn't really matter how many movies you were doing because Rob just really, really has a lot to say.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 17:39

And I was like, that's accurate.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Uh Leslie, so we look up Renee here on the on the Our People tab. Uh Renee, Leslie mentions her friend Renee, who told her about the Instagram account, preachers and sneakers.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Leslie credits her friend Renee and Julie for sharing her love for Michael Jackson's music in high school.

SPEAKER_03 17:57

Aww.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

Leslie described, and there's a link to each one of these.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

Yes, you could find a timestamp in the episode.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

And it'll take you exactly right to that part of the video. It has all of our covers on it, all of our episodes.

SPEAKER_03 18:08

We do do that as well.

SPEAKER_00 18:09

Um check it out. I'll put a link in the description. I'm going to make this. I know no one cares except for me. Maybe, except for maybe Jeffrey. This is named after Jeffrey's.

SPEAKER_03 18:22

It's his namesake.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Except we change it to Jeffrey's, like it's the last name, Jeffrey's. Because it sounds like it's really official. Yeah. And of course, third reason it's for Jeffrey's Everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

That's right. It is for Jeffrey's Everywhere. Unless you're a bad Jeffree. And then you can find another data sheet. This one's not for you.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

Well, so what I want to do is turn it into a proper, we'll just call it an app, and then make it so that anybody with crazy abstract long form content like ours who wants to get people to have their own Jeffries data sheet. Because if we just send it to somebody right now, yeah, exactly. They could it's gonna be a Jeffries data sheet in like GitHub. So you can go on, feed your stuff, feed your your uh uh SRT files, your uh what do you call them? I don't know. Subtitles, like your transcript. Oh, captions, your transcript. Feed your transcript, it'll build a transcript for you if you don't have one, feed the transcript to this thing. It figures out how to categorize your show, and then it will uh break it down into essentially like data sheets, databases, and that's what I'd ultimately for it to be, and then uh have like a front end that you can search for and it's really snappy, and the video just pops up. You don't have it's not a freaking spreadsheet, you know. But I had to get something out.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Yeah, well, it's out. Nothing.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

So it's out, okay. Check it out. Cool. For your health.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

Yeah, for your health. And what were we talking about before you said, oh wait, let's talk about the Jeffries data sheet.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

We were talking about what we do in the shadows.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

What

What We Do In The Shadows Music

SPEAKER_03 19:53

we do in the shadows, the show. We what we did watch the movie, which is what this is based upon, correct?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Now, is the movie made by the same? I know it's made by um Jermaine Flight of the Concords guy.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Clement? Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 20:09

But was the movie also made by Jermaine?

SPEAKER_00 20:10

That's a good question. I don't know. Keep talking about the show.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

Okay, well, anyway, it's a documentary about I guess it's a mockumentary.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Yeah, it's like this is Spinal Tap or Yes.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

So they um it's about three, well, really four vampires, and it just basically follows them around in their daily lives.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

You might know Christopher Guest from his work on um Almost Heroes.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

Oh, I I know Christopher Guest from his work on other things.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

That's probably his worst thing. Anyways, continue.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

I don't know if I have I ever seen Almost Heroes. It's uh Is that the one with Arnold Schwarzenegger and the toys?

SPEAKER_00 20:47

No, that's okay. Well, you could okay, that's that was trolling.

SPEAKER_03 20:51

I'm just trolling you.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

How dare you be? That's small soldiers and is that chingle all the way. Have we had this conversation?

SPEAKER_03 20:57

I'm trolling you.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

All right.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

I bet that's gonna show up on the Dave Jeffrey's data sheet now.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yes, twice.

SPEAKER_03 21:02

Twice. Uh okay. But anyway, and it's of course ridiculous and hilarious. It's got um, what's that guy's name?

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Matt Berry.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

Matt Berry. What's his name? Robert was he Robert California? He was not Robert California. No, that was they remind me of each other. I can't but Matt Berry was on um the IT crowd, right?

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Yes, he was.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Yeah. Also, that's a great show. I wish it had more episodes.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

Me too.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

Um, and it has actually he's the only person I know. But it's made by the guy, one of the Flight of the Concords people. So if you're a Flight of the Concords fan, you probably would like this show.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Yeah, he was a director on it. Jermaine Clement Clement Clement Taika Watiti.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Uh I don't know if I'm saying the name right.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Yeah, I thought I wasn't aware that was a name.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Oh, it's a name, baby. You know what else is a name? What? Uh Norma Tanega. Or Tanega. I'm sure you say her name. She wrote this theme story. Song, You're Dead.

SPEAKER_03 22:01

It's a great song.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

It's a great song.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

It's a song, just like the show, it has grown on me, where I was just like, I'm not sure if I like this. Well, but it's interesting. The music. And then I'm like, oh.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

I had to every night I'm like, does this work? Every night. Every time I hear it, I'm like, is this working?

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

And it does somehow does. Yeah. Raw kind of mess that's it kind of reminds me of sorry. The um that true blood. I thought I love that theme song of the true blood. Which I can't remember off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

I know I've heard it too. I've I think I remember liking it.

SPEAKER_03 22:38

There's like a whole genre of music called like dark country. And some of it's really poppy, but some of it's like that.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Gotcha. Well what when would you guess that song was uh was written and performed?

SPEAKER_03 22:53

That that it's not, it wasn't written for the show.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

No. Doesn't it sound like it was?

SPEAKER_03 22:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Like even the lyrics and everything.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

I I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

Just guess.

SPEAKER_03 23:02

1965.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Oh, that's an excellent guess. 66.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

What?

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Yeah, I would have thought it was like a kind of like a it sounds like an old song. What's it about? But I thought it was a new song.

SPEAKER_03 23:14

Did you listen to the whole thing?

SPEAKER_00 23:15

Yeah. Uh it's about her. So she's a kind of an accomplished songwriter. She had a hit too. Um I listened to it. I can't remember the name of it. Uh my dog. It sounded like I'd heard it before, but I don't think I had. Uh I liked it a lot.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

Will you say her name one more time?

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Norma. Norma Tanega. Tanega.

SPEAKER_04 23:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

T-A-N-E-G-A. Um She wrote like she wrote for Dusty Springfield and like she was she had a bit of a bit of umph. But what the song is about is her experience in New York, which is kind of funny because that's what the show's about with the vampires. Yeah, they live in Staten Island. But her experience in New York trying to make it as a songwriter, and basically people saying, like, you're dead. You're dead. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:05

Stay dead.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

Yes. And yeah, 1966. It sounds it sounds ahead of its time to me. It sounds scary. It reminds me of do you you know the song? Uh I think we've talked about doing it before, Coffee Cold by Galtman Dermot. You played it for me. So Uncle Dan, who's all over the Jeffries dishes. Oh, yeah. Uncle Dan uh turned me on to Handsome Boy Modeling School. And there's a song they have called, I think it's called Truth, and it uses that. And that song's like from the 60s, too. But it's got this. Some songs are just it's great. Yeah, they're just great and and you and they come from nowhere and they they're kind of buried. Like these dudes. I'm not saying that Golden Dermer wasn't successful in his own right, but he certainly wasn't all over hip hop albums. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 24:57

Exactly. I know exactly what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

You know what I mean, baby? Yeah. We're gonna talk about a little hip-hop today. Oh my gosh. A little Southern Playlist catalog funky music. Anything else you want to say about?

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Nope.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

What do you want to talk about? You want to

Choosing The Wanderers

SPEAKER_00 25:20

talk about a little uh wanderers?

SPEAKER_03 25:23

A little wanderers. So tell everyone, tell everyone. Hey mom, look at me. That's how I feel every time I pretend that there's people here that we're talking to. Watch this. Uh tell everyone. Tell everyone about how you sent me movie options, and then that was the one I selected.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Yeah, so I sent you. I said, hey, let's uh this this time let's watch something and talk about it. Because we have different different formats.

SPEAKER_03 25:47

We try to keep you guys guessing. Guessing.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

If you'd like to hear what we've discussed, check out the Jeffree Stage. Thousands and thousands and thousands of things.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

How can they access the Jeffrey Stage? Are you gonna link it in the description?

SPEAKER_00 25:57

I'm gonna put it in the description. I'll put it on the YouTube on YouTube. Yeah, I'll put it on YouTube. I'll put it in the uh remind me to put it in the about like the YouTube about. Yeah, and then I'm going to make a website.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

Oh, I could stick it in the Instagram. I've not done anything with Instagram. I'm sorry, I'm a terrible. That's all good.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

We've uh we've had stuff going on. We still do. So um what was your question?

SPEAKER_03 26:19

Uh what movies did you suggest?

SPEAKER_00 26:22

I'm Swiss Family Robinson from 1960.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Which I've read the junior novelization. We'll do that someday. But I don't think I've ever seen the movie.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

I love that movie.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

Um sorry, just pause on that. Is that the same movie that of the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse that you can go to at Disney World? Yes, it is. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Which is now what, Tarzan?

SPEAKER_03 26:45

No.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Oh. It's still a Swiss Family Robinson tree. Tarzan somewhere. Maybe it didn't have a working. Maybe that's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 26:51

I've never been there. Who cares?

SPEAKER_00 26:54

Uh Better Off Dead.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

Better Off Dead, which we've already watched.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

We've yeah, we have watched that before.

SPEAKER_03 26:59

And that has um John Sack. I know things.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Curtis Armstrong's in it.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

It's a skiing movie.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

There's a oh who there's quite a few other people in it. Oh gosh, what's his name? He's got the saddest eyes. I love that movie. We're gonna watch it for sure.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

Ew at the Sad Clown Eyes.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

I can't remember his name. Anyways, what was the fourth movie I gave you as an option?

SPEAKER_03 27:20

I don't remember. That's what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Is it a weird one? Those are all kind of.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

I I hope I was hoping you would remember.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

I don't remember. But Leslie said The Wanderers. And I was surprised because I thought that would be the last one you'd want to watch.

SPEAKER_03 27:32

It said it caught me because in the description, I swear to you, it said something about being a thriller.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

Well, that's the thing about this movie. It is multiple genres.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

It's checking a lot of boxes.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

It is.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

Even when it shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

I don't know what that's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_03 27:50

Pick Elaine, the wanderers.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

So it's a little racist and misogynist and homophobic.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

What isn't?

SPEAKER_03 27:58

I mean, I I wrote I had a my overall

Why The Movie Feels Bad

SPEAKER_03 28:02

takeaway from the movie. Do you want me to say it now or later?

SPEAKER_00 28:05

Let's talk about the genres.

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

You know, why don't you give me a takeaway? Actually, I'm I'm more interested in that.

SPEAKER_03 28:11

The overall feeling that I got when I was watching the movie was just like, this makes me feel bad. I have sad, bad feelings watching this.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

Care to elaborate?

SPEAKER_03 28:21

It was good though.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

You you thought it was good?

SPEAKER_03 28:24

So I when we first turned it on, and there was just like that whole classroom scene with all the racists back and forth, I was just like, this makes me feel sick. I really don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

That was insane.

SPEAKER_03 28:36

But it was just this side of too much.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

And then it was too silly to take seriously.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

Yes. Which is basically like the theme of this entire movie.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 28:49

And like you had said before we we watched it, you're like, it doesn't know what it wants to be. No. And I think that's really true. But um what was I saying? Why did I feel that way?

SPEAKER_00 29:00

Yeah, it made you feel bad. You're watching the race war in the classroom.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

I just was like, all these no one's talking about no one's taking care of these kids. Like everyone has terrible parents. Even the rich kids' parents are just out doing their own things, and these kids are getting into trouble. Yes, bullying mafiovos.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Bully mafiosas and white shirts.

SPEAKER_03 29:25

Um lots to unpack. Lots to unpack. We'll get into all of it. But it's just like overall, I just felt like sad for the kids because they're just having this like we're pretending to be adults and just getting into trouble. And then like the Ducky Boys that was like some like foray into zombie movie for a second. Yes. No real explanation. No resolution.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

I know. Well, it's a 70s movie.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Yeah, I didn't really 70s movies.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

I'm telling you, I'm not an aficionado, but I have seen a lot of them. Didn't I tell you, didn't we say this real?

SPEAKER_03 30:01

You said it. You're like, well, it's the 70s movie. And I was like, what does that mean? You're like, they don't end.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Yeah, they just kind of finish.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

They just like pan out. They do. They literally pan out.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

Every single one of them. Okay, what I just watched uh Cooley High. I don't remember when that was made, but it's the same kind of coming of age movie that's just like it doesn't really go anywhere. I mean it does, but it doesn't, you know? Yeah. It's just like this huge set piece carousel. And it's just adventure after that movie also doesn't quite know what it wants to be.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

Like I think I remember you saying that.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

Every 70s movie has somebody who dies. I mean, I guess you say the same about Disney movies.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

The other thing I was wondering about the timeline, which we'll go, I'll give you my my famous plot synopsis here in a second. But the timeline of this movie, I couldn't did it, was were things taking place over because they were like, we're gonna meet them on Saturday, but then like half the movie happened.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

You mean like not 1963, like no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 30:58

I mean like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, like how much time was passing between each scene? It they did not explain any of it to you. Then all of a sudden they're playing their football game, which I actually thought all along I thought was gonna be just a rumble, like a fight. I didn't really know they were.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

They sort of settled that in the bowling alley because the the dads of the two when they made I mean, there's a lot of racially insensitive things being said in this uh movie. But you know, it was it was kind of a they're not all bad comment, and then he goes up and shakes hands with them and shows that they're all like I mean, honest to God, the white people were the worst people in the uh yeah. I mean white people almost always are. I think I could say that.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

Like they were like the trashiest, the evilest, they were the baddest.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Well, the Ducky boys are all white, too.

SPEAKER_03 31:47

We're all white.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

Goodness gracious. So anyway, what I'm what I was saying was they they worked it out. Like when they're saying you know you're having some some problems with uh we'll just say the Dell the Dell Bombers. Yeah. We'll go by their gang name and not their skin color. Well, you know, they're not some some they're not all bad type comment. And then he goes up and shakes, they all shake hands, they all know the dads, and I think that's when they organize the football game. But they don't say it's they don't really say I get a feeling that a ton of this movie got cut left on the cutting room floor. In fact, there's a si there's six supposed to be six more minutes of of just solid football field fighting that they with the ducky boys with the ducky boys that they cut out. All right, well, should I should I start scene the plot synopsis?

Plot Walkthrough And Genre Whiplash

SPEAKER_00 32:37

Yeah. Well, what look real quick though, what would you say the genres are? You said horror.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

I didn't say that's what caught my eye. Oh, maybe I was thinking horror. It wasn't. No, but that it I mean I would say if you if I had to pick one, I would just say drama.

SPEAKER_00 32:51

There's yeah. I'd say like coming of age.

SPEAKER_03 32:53

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

Um but also comedy.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

I mean, it is It was funny, but was it trying to be funny?

SPEAKER_00 33:03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

It was a zombie movie, but was it trying to be a zombie movie? It's kind of everything.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

So like this was made with made from um let me let me look it up. I got who who made it. Okay. It was a book.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

Oh wow. Oh yeah, I did see that at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 33:17

It was a book uh by Uncle? Uncle Baby. Baby. I don't know. It's a book by I thought I wrote it down. Anyways, Philip Kaufman did it. Um Richard Price. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 33:36

I said Richard.

SPEAKER_00 33:37

Did you really? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 33:38

I did not even know.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Richard. What are you watching? Adult Family Airmuffs.

SPEAKER_03 33:45

Is that from Black Sheep?

SPEAKER_00 33:48

Getting warmer. Scorching.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

That other one with Chris Furley and David.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Are you the only person in the world?

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Fat Man in a little coat.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

This is Black Sheep before Tommy Boy.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

Tommy Boy is what I meant. I just couldn't think of it.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

So it was yeah, a novel by Richard Price in 19 uh 74. I looked up some other books. I I'd recognize other books that he wrote. I wish I could pull them off the top of my head, but he's you would you would recognize him too.

SPEAKER_03 34:16

Oh, another reason I didn't really like it that much is there was no protagonist. I can't, it's hard for me to watch a movie where everybody's just gray.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

What about Game of Thrones?

SPEAKER_03 34:27

Yeah, I mean, Jon Snow was pretty protagony. He had his moments, but he was pretty protagony.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

Yeah, he's pretty protagony. Yeah. I guess you're right.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

I mean he was about the only one with any sort of and Sam. Right? Was his name Sam? Samuel Tarley.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

Yeah. Is that his name? I was trying to think of Sam from Frodo. Yeah. What was his name? Sam from Frodo. It's been a couple weeks, guys. So, but this was a book, and it was written on this guy's uh Richard Price's kind of upbringing in the in this area.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

What color of skin was Richard Price?

SPEAKER_00 35:04

I think he was an Italian gentleman.

SPEAKER_03 35:05

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

The Wanderers Olive.

unknown 35:07

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

So he he wrote this book about real gangs like ended in his neighborhood. So like the Baldies, they were real. The Ducky Boys were real. You know Ace Fraley? From Kiss?

SPEAKER_03 35:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

He was a Ducky boy.

SPEAKER_03 35:23

In real life. Yeah. Whoa. What?

SPEAKER_00 35:26

Yeah. He's one of the guys who chased turkey up the uh line.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

Did music save him from his gang life?

SPEAKER_00 35:30

I think it did. Music guys. I think Ace Fraley is said that he's quitting. He's not gonna uh practice guitar anymore because he knows everything he he ever wants to know.

SPEAKER_03 35:40

No, he did not say that. I think that was he ever wants to know?

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Something like that.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

That's different.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

It was a little different. I don't, whatever it was, it was like certainly felt better. It was like just a dash of arrogance and just a dash of relatable burnout.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Yeah. Um, but so he was a ducky boy. I guess it's that ducky boy attitude.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

And then the wanderers was the other gang.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

The wanderers, though, was not a real gang. It was like a culmination of three gangs in the area, all Italian um derogatory terms that I don't I don't know what I can say or what I won't say.

SPEAKER_04 36:13

You can't say any of them.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

So and then the Dell Bombers, I think, were a real gang.

SPEAKER_04 36:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

But there were some anachronisms, like the Baldies weren't a gang during this time.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

Um and what's an anachronism?

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Like something that doesn't actually belong in that timeline.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Like Is that why it's anachronism? Like just look up.

SPEAKER_00 36:41

Look up all the issues with like Braveheart. Like, well, they didn't invent that till you know 14. So it's um there was something else I was gonna say about it. I don't remember. It'll probably come up later if it's important.

SPEAKER_03 36:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_03 36:57

What?

SPEAKER_00 36:58

Let's tell the plot.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

Oh, yeah. Alright, so this movie is talking about it talks about it's a it's focuses on a few members, a few core members of a group called the Wanderers, and they're like these boys are all in high school. I have to assume they're seniors, juniors and seniors. They seem like older upper classmen.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Old enough to smoke and drink in class.

SPEAKER_03 37:17

And do all yeah. And also, were there no girls in their high school? Well, because there was no girls in that racist classroom.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

No, there definitely were not. So I don't know. They would not do I don't think they would do well in that class. No. I don't think that would be very fair to put a girl in that class.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Uh-uh. Or maybe in that high school. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

Were there girls in the high school?

SPEAKER_00 37:38

When they're walking down the hallway and they're showing all the gangs, which is, by the way, I wrote down it's it's this is the high school the Napoleon Dynamite was talking about.

SPEAKER_03 37:49

It was not a buttload of gangs to join. Right? Yes. Um this is it. So anyway, and it follows them. Uh and it looks like they're maybe maybe getting close to graduation because Turkey wants to join a different gang because he can't be in a wanderer's gang forever. Yeah, so he wants to become a Baldi shaves his head. Um so then you meet the Baldies and and opens with a pretty adult scene.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Does it open like right off the bat?

SPEAKER_03 38:16

Yeah, because I was like, do you want to invite Clark to watch this with us? And you hesitated before you said no. And I can't believe that. That was a hard no. That was a hard no.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

Okay. This movie I've I thought this was the coolest movie I've ever ever seen in my life. Yeah, I'm sure Clark would love it. I saw this movie when I was when I was about Clark's age, probably. And I it had it has everything that a that a high school boy every scene is an entertaining See, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_03 38:47

It's everything that you think you want, and it never is good for you. No. Never good for you. But it's entertaining to watch for two hours, I guess. So anyway, um, then they get for some reason, uh unbeknownst to me, the teacher has the the white kids talking to the black kids and calling each other the most racist things they can think of.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

Yeah, like totally egg and mod.

SPEAKER_03 39:11

And like he started the discussion. I really don't know what his purpose was.

SPEAKER_00 39:15

I don't either.

SPEAKER_03 39:16

But we'll come back to that. I'm still telling the plot.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

Oh, please.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

And um, and they end up that ends up with them having to like meet, you know, meet on the weekend to have a big fight to like work it out. And then flashback to the girlfriend from the adult scene at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Can I ask a quick question?

SPEAKER_03 39:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Are we gonna go back and talk about all these scenes? Because there's a lot going on in all these scenes.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

Yeah, that's true. Well, let's just let's just slow our roll and we'll just talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

You might slow our roll a little bit? Okay.

Soundtrack Love And Opening Shock

SPEAKER_00 39:48

So can we talk about that uh sex scene?

SPEAKER_03 39:50

So here was my very first note. Quite the opening scene.

SPEAKER_00 39:54

Yeah. So you go from that to Well, but I have one more thing to say about that scene.

SPEAKER_03 40:02

I'd like to know. I wrote in quotes, I promise I will never die. Oh yeah. Totally. We've seen Team America. It's basically that scene. It was a little more. Instead of without without puppets, it was two real people.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

It was a little more orthodox, I suppose.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

I guess so.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

A little, a little ritty. Um and it goes from that to what? Walk. Well, to walk like a man.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

Best song. I love that song.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Yeah, there's a lot of four seasons on this.

SPEAKER_03 40:29

The whole well, I also one of my other like overall was the soundtrack is bomb. Yeah, it's and it's used well. It's used well with the scenes, I feel in some scenes.

SPEAKER_00 40:37

It's played like a jukebox. Like in the strip poker scene. Like it's on they play four songs in a row. That scene was long.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

That was a yeah, that was another one.

SPEAKER_00 40:47

But um, yeah, I I have the soundtrack. I mean, they they had Mr. Moto was on there. That's like a uh surf, surf, surf music instrumental um with by the Bel Airs. I love that tune. Um, yeah, Walk Like a Man, uh Big Girls Don't Cry, My Boyfriend's Back, Sherry, the Wanderer, of course, Run Around Sue, Times Their Are Changing, Soldier Boy, Baby It's You, Isley Brothers Shout, I Love You, Pipeline, Stand By Me.

SPEAKER_03 41:16

Why you wrote all did you write all this down or did you look it up?

SPEAKER_00 41:19

I just looked it up. Wipe out, do you love me? You really got a hold on me. And then um Several, several, they had a lot more as well. And then there was like a I think an original score, too. And I just I I did. I love the way they use the music. I love the way Walk Like a Man was playing while Terror was eating an entire slice of pizza in one bite and shoving it.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

I said, I said put that big guy eating pizza on Glutton Forum. Rob has a channel called Glutton Forum from a really long time ago. So if you ever want to see some young Rob Shoecraft eating some disgusting stuff, you should go there. I wrote real skinheads exclamation.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

The Fordham Baldies.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

Yeah. And so wow, then then what's his name? Terror? Terror. Terror's the main Baldy. Yes. Well, he's the biggest of them. He has a girlfriend that looks like a little androgynous street urchin. Um, but actually at the end she's very cute. Yeah. She's like not wearing her hair slicked back like a boy.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

She's one of the only uh she's one of the only actors in this movie that really had much of a career other than like Karen Allen or was Karen Allen Nina? Yes, yeah, she was Nina. Yeah, she was um you know in Indiana Jones and uh you ever see Starman?

SPEAKER_03 42:44

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

With Jeff Burgess?

SPEAKER_03 42:46

I don't know. I think we've talked about that, and I don't know if I've seen it.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 42:50

Well, anyway, so one of the wanderers uh uh terror. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:57

I won't talk about terror a little bit more. Okay. Terror is feeding that pizza to his fellow gang member. And then feeding, he's got this weird relationship over all the time.

SPEAKER_03 43:10

Yeah. So he it's a very weird.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

The guy who played terror.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

It's a very off-putting movie, but also somehow very good and entertaining. I can't I just can't put my finger on it.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

Yeah, it's just super entertaining.

SPEAKER_03 43:20

The guy who played terror, did he die of a heart attack immediately after?

SPEAKER_00 43:23

He did die of a heart attack. I don't know how you guessed.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

He looked like he was about to die of a heart attack.

SPEAKER_00 43:27

He was like a trained opera singer, apparently. Have you you haven't seen Running Man, have you? He's Dutch, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

Oh, his voice. I also wrote Wow, Terror's voice. Where did I write that? Oh, I just wrote Pee-wee, wow, and Terror, her boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

So Terror was in uh I wrote down all the name. Every so every he's only been in four movies. Okay, here. One of the characters, so he was terror in this movie. The guy's name is Erlen Van Lithejude. I don't know if I'm saying that right. He was growing. Ghostburger and Stir Crazy. I don't know. Ronald Fatty Elster and Alone in the Dark and Dynamo and Running Man. Oh my god. Poor guy never actually got a real name. Dynamo and Running Man is the he so he's this is the guy. If you've seen Running Man, who has all the lights on him for no real reason. He has electricity and he sings opera. Schwarzenegger makes pretty quick work.

SPEAKER_03 44:24

Have I seen Running Man? Do we watch that?

SPEAKER_00 44:25

No, we gotta watch that. Okay. We've talked about watching it, you haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_03 44:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

You'll like it. Is it the one with the enjoy yourself?

SPEAKER_03 44:33

Toys.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

If by toys you mean Richard Dawson. It is the one with the toys.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

Um all right. And yeah, when he opens up his mouth to talk, it's not the voice you expect.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

No.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

Um then I wrote, okay, so then so then he says something. So then the high school kid says something. Or sorry, one of the wanderers. Is his name Joey?

SPEAKER_00 44:54

Joey, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:55

He says something nasty about the way the bald is looking.

SPEAKER_00 44:58

Salek uh comment commentary with ears.

SPEAKER_03 45:01

And so then they start chasing him. And I wrote down everyone's butts look great in those jeans. The jeans that they were wearing in that era were very flattering, all the butts of the boys.

SPEAKER_00 45:12

Like terror.

SPEAKER_03 45:13

No, there's the wanderers. I didn't really see any of the butts of the other guys. The butts of the Dell Bombers were also great.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

I did not notice the butts, but uh huh.

SPEAKER_03 45:25

I guess that's the difference between you and me. Is that it? Is that what you're it's one of them? Um, alright, and then so then they he's gonna beat Joey up, but then this big guy steps in and he says, Leave the kid alone.

SPEAKER_00 45:38

Leave the kid alone.

SPEAKER_03 45:39

And he basically, that's basically what I think you looked like.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

That's exactly what like your build and just like Oh, you think I look like uh like your build. So I only I will forget At that age.

SPEAKER_03 45:50

At that age.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

At that age? Oh that age I was like 5'11.

SPEAKER_03 45:55

Well, but I mean in college, it was like it was like you were big and muscular, but you still almost didn't look like you were done, like growing.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

I gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 46:04

Now you look like a regular settled in man.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

What was his name? Uh uh Perry. Perry, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:12

Perry.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

Perry. Uh that was uh Joe or Tony Tony Ganeos. So did you ever see he was 6'4. Greek Italian.

SPEAKER_03 46:21

You are 6'4. So see how I was right about that.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

He have you ever seen Porkies?

SPEAKER_03 46:28

I've seen scenes from it. He's been on in our life together. It's not a movie I ever want to watch, though, I can tell you.

SPEAKER_00 46:34

That's another movie that I fell in love with immediately as a as a teenage boy.

SPEAKER_03 46:38

I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

It so, anyways, he plays Meat. Um, it's not his real name in the movie, but he gets that name from it's another phallic reference.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

Uh-huh. And we should put a warner up at the top if you're gonna listen to this episode with your children.

SPEAKER_00 46:53

Well, honey, that's what adult family earmuffs are for. The whole episode phallic is basically like a we're we might as well be doctors right now.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

Or at least or Greek uh literature uh experts. That's true. I'm sorry. Yeah. I apologize. That was rude. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 47:12

Enjoy your classic documents.

SPEAKER_00 47:14

If you're a doctor or a Greek literature expert, it's a way to help you. Yeah, sorry. It's a way to help you.

SPEAKER_03 47:20

Um but yeah, so he comes in, saves the day, and then Joey wisely befriends him and gets him to join the Wanderers.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

That was a good that was a good move.

SPEAKER_03 47:28

That was. Joey was Joey reminds me of some people I feel like I've known in my life.

SPEAKER_00 47:33

Yes, me too. Like he even looks like somebody I know.

SPEAKER_03 47:36

He kind of reminded me of some of your friends from high school.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

Yeah, I get that. Um I don't know who.

SPEAKER_03 47:43

They're just kind of like the small, smart guys who can't keep their mouth shut, but they're still smart enough, like street smart enough to like truly stay out of trouble.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 47:52

Probably because of his horrible home life. Why can't anyone have nice parents?

SPEAKER_00 47:57

Joey's dad, Emilio. Oh my gosh, that dude is out of control.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

I feel like that's who he was just playing himself. I feel like they were like, here, just read these lines.

SPEAKER_00 48:08

William Andrews, I think was the guy's name. I was trying to find more information on him. I mean, he's been in some stuff, but not a whole lot.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

What were his stats? Did you look those up?

SPEAKER_00 48:16

Gosh, he was, I think he was like 6'4, 6'6, somewhere around there. He was 6'4, I think. He was huge. That dude was built.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

And he also, he was probably like 30 in that movie. That's what we've come to discover is that people we think look like they're 50 are younger than us now.

SPEAKER_00 48:31

During that fight, I I don't I don't suppose you've seen Happy Gilmore enough to know who uh Mr. Larson is. Do you? The giant the giant who he played Jaws in the James Bond movie.

SPEAKER_03 48:42

Uh no, just keep talking.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

Okay. The guy who Billy Band or Happy Gilmore shoots with the nail gun.

SPEAKER_03 48:48

Okay. Yes, yes, yes. Well, at the end, he's like kind of like a big face. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

At the end he's chasing a shooter. He's leading the charge, and he's like, ah, it's this close-up of his face. That's the exact same face.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

Of that guy.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

That Emilio made. Do you think they were like Right before he punched Joey in the gut, inexplicably.

SPEAKER_03 49:08

Do you know why he did that? I just assumed he didn't know who he was.

SPEAKER_00 49:12

Yeah, that or he's just bloodlusted and didn't care. Well, it was like uh there's this character called Logan Ninefingers in the Joe Abercrombie books I like.

SPEAKER_04 49:21

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

Who is this great guy? Well, Emilio's not a great guy, but he'll turn into it's like a Jekyll and Hyde kind of thing. Like juggernaut. Top notch. Top notch. Kill everything.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 49:33

Doesn't matter. It kills everyone. Anyways, another time.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Another time.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

He couldn't have to be a few.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

Maybe I'll finally rip off the band-aid and read one.

SPEAKER_00 49:41

I would actually love to see somebody doing Logan Ninefingers versus the Ducky Boys. Yeah. Maybe you can have the. Do you know who Mike Hagar is?

SPEAKER_03 49:54

Oh my gosh. Are we ever gonna get through the Wanderers route?

SPEAKER_01 49:57

I want to talk about Emilio.

SPEAKER_03 49:58

Just so you know, we've been talking for 50 minutes. Have we? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 50:02

About the Wanderers?

SPEAKER_03 50:04

No, period.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Okay. About period?

SPEAKER_03 50:06

About 50 minutes a period. They'll bring that up again. I've been getting questions at the wazoo about that.

SPEAKER_00 50:12

Yeah, I mean I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_03 50:17

All right.

The Classroom Scene And What It Normalizes

SPEAKER_03 50:18

Perry steps in, Joey befriends them. The next scene, they're I think is in the classroom.

SPEAKER_00 50:23

It might be.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

And they're in high their high school classroom, which I also wrote, only adults go to this high school because none of these people look like children.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

No, it's serious like 90210.

SPEAKER_03 50:33

Yeah, they're all like 30. Um and then I said the race classroom discussion. Wowza.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

So yeah, the teacher just kids are in that class, like 90?

SPEAKER_03 50:42

34, I counted.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

Because he wrote down how many were of each.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

He did the bath for us.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

34 students. Boys only, where are the girls? That's what I wrote.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

That quote where he's like, Do you know who wrote this? And they're all like, You did. That I read that is uh and he's like, No, Abraham Lincoln. And it was actually a Thomas Jefferson quote. Yeah. Like the teacher was just a moron.

SPEAKER_03 51:05

Yeah. Well, I didn't, and I kind of wondered too, like that just keeps making me think the director did know exactly what he was doing.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

So the author of the book said about the director or said said about when he saw the film, he said it's nothing at all like the book.

SPEAKER_03 51:25

We have a lot of coughing tonight. But I loved it.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

He said it's nothing at all like the book, but I love it because it had its energy. Whatever that means. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

So who knows?

SPEAKER_00 51:33

Apparently they were all kind of going for just Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:36

So what did you want to say? Anything else additional about that scene where he just exit like the teacher's like, All right, you know, Italians, what what are all the terrible things you can think of to call black people? If yeah, if you haven't seen this movie, they go off like every single racial slur for every ethnic group of all time, including white people's ethnicity.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

And I gotta I gotta say, like I hate to sound like I'm getting like a political soapbox or something, but this movie definitely you're talking about like not showing this to kids. At least when it comes to racial racial stuff, it's probably a good idea because it really makes it seem like it's okay to call somebody You mean because the teacher is inviting the class to have this debate. Let's not be that bad.

SPEAKER_03 52:25

Yeah. So we were talking about the classroom racist discussion and how it made s makes it seem like it's okay. And it's not.

SPEAKER_00 52:35

Right.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

Yeah. Let's just uh racism's bad.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

And then I wrote, was high school ever actually like this?

SPEAKER_00 52:44

I so I had some crazy No. I I never went to Oh, you mean like in the 60s?

SPEAKER_03 52:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Because I had a class that was all guys, except for the two girls, and we What class was it?

SPEAKER_03 52:54

And why was it like that?

SPEAKER_00 52:56

Because Well w I was in it.

SPEAKER_03 53:00

No, no, why were there only boys in it? Is what I want to know.

SPEAKER_00 53:03

Oh, I don't know. It just worked out that way. And the teacher, I mean I I love the teacher, but he did the never mind. We it was it was an absolutely chaotic class, it was insane.

SPEAKER_03 53:13

So that was a yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

And it was great. Did you learn anything? That teacher is the one who ran the detention, or my brother, where we were all taking ginseng supplements, and my brother got up on the uh this is detention. My my brother got up on the desk, and because but both both my brother and I were in detention this time. Together, wow, yeah. I skipped class and he I don't even know what he did, but we're both in there, all dudes. Mr. Uh Mr. W is running it. He just loses control immediately. He wanted to. He didn't care, he wanted to be entertained.

SPEAKER_03 53:49

He didn't care.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

I say, Joe, do Magic Mountain. Joe gets up on the desk.

SPEAKER_03 53:53

Magic Mountain, is that in the Jeffries data sheet?

SPEAKER_00 53:56

Um I don't know. It should be. We talked about it. Look it up. It's when my brother can suck air in and blow it out. He gets up. Yeah, puts his butt up in the air on top of a desk, and he's just and you can hear it to the point where do I talk about in and out?

SPEAKER_03 54:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 54:15

Okay. You want me to move on?

SPEAKER_03 54:17

I well, finish the detention story.

SPEAKER_00 54:20

That's the teacher. That's the teacher who ran in class. Yeah, yeah. The teacher who will let that go on detention.

SPEAKER_03 54:26

So then the end result. The end result of that is that they end up having to schedule a big fight, which I think is hilarious. It's scheduling fights. And then I wrote because everybody keeps walking away with this swagger in these big groups, and I kept I wrote, I keep waiting for the big musical dance numbers, but they never come. Because it feels like it should be like right into like a West Side story.

SPEAKER_00 54:48

Oh, they they even have doo-op.

SPEAKER_03 54:50

They do sing in the car later. I was like, this is what I've been waiting for.

SPEAKER_00 54:53

Singing that uh Stranger, I tried to find that song. Apparently, it was written for this it was original.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

They all just yeah, spontaneously go into doo-op and then wind up in Ducky Boy country.

SPEAKER_03 55:04

So they think the next scene they're at the bowling alley.

Bowling Alley Politics And Gang Alliances

SPEAKER_00 55:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 55:07

Or it get there pretty quick.

SPEAKER_00 55:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:09

And they're all my favorite thing is they're all wearing these wanderer jackets, which are like satin, maroon, and gold, but they're all a little different. Some of them have like baseball style sleeves where the sleeves are different. Any of this. The sleeves are a little different. The sleeves are green, or sorry, what did I just say? Gold and maroon.

SPEAKER_04 55:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:26

The sleeves are gold and the jacket's maroon, or vice versa, on somebody else. Or somebody had a fully gold jacket with maroon logo. It's also like this is great. Because it's probably like whatever year you got inducted into the Wanderers is just like, this was the jacket of that year. That's how I like so. I that's what I think. That's what I want.

SPEAKER_00 55:45

I've seen this movie, I think, four times, and I uh I said I like how jackets are a variation on a theme.

SPEAKER_03 55:53

So then the butts.

SPEAKER_00 55:55

Oh my goodness. So they're at the bowling alley.

SPEAKER_03 56:00

And the girlfriend from the very adult opening scene is there.

SPEAKER_04 56:06

What is her name?

SPEAKER_03 56:07

Dip Disby? Disby. Dispy.

SPEAKER_00 56:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:10

Disby? She's something weird. She's really pretty. She plays like a complete dit.

SPEAKER_00 56:15

She's a bit she's a bit of a misophonia nightmare.

SPEAKER_03 56:18

Yeah, she's a lot of gum chewing and snacking. Anyway, so she comes to talk to her boyfriend Richie, one of the wanderers, and by the way, he has absolutely gorgeous green eyes. I'm not sure I've seen someone with green eyes like that before.

SPEAKER_00 56:30

Yeah, he would uh David Lopin would be all over all over him. Sorry, it's blue in the microphone. Um, I really want as a wonder with green eyes.

SPEAKER_03 56:39

Indeed.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

It's an Italian boy with green eyes. Kind of messed up teeth.

SPEAKER_00 56:46

I don't know how much before it was. It wasn't that before.

SPEAKER_03 56:48

What year was it filmed?

SPEAKER_00 56:49

I feel like he might have made it. He might have had a more successful career if he uh had braces.

SPEAKER_03 56:57

What'd you say happened to him? What was the real name?

SPEAKER_00 56:59

Some kind of accident. He had a little bit of success on TV, but not not much.

SPEAKER_03 57:04

Um really great eyes, so Richie with the green eyes.

SPEAKER_00 57:07

You know Stitch? Remember Stitch? From from the Dell, he led the Dell Bombers.

SPEAKER_03 57:12

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

He was at he was he's been in some stuff. Did you ever see Money Talks with Chris Tucker and Charlie Sheen?

SPEAKER_03 57:18

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 57:19

He's Aaron, the like weapons dealer with a really deep voice who has a rocket launcher. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 57:24

Wow, there's still some stuff. I know.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

I love this is all this is all your favorite. I love this.

SPEAKER_03 57:30

Uh so anyway, while they're at the bowling alley, the girlfriend comes over and she's like, My dad wants to talk to you. And so he goes and talks to the dad, when the dad's basically like, I oh, because they also try to recruit some other gangs to help them fight the bombers.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

She's trying to unite the clans.

SPEAKER_03 57:46

And what was the first one's names that said no?

SPEAKER_00 57:49

I don't remember. So they're not the ones with a gun, right?

SPEAKER_03 57:52

Yeah, they were the ones with the first one. Those kids were about to be. So that was the guys that were hiding behind the first group. What was the I don't remember what any of them except for the third guys who showed up.

SPEAKER_00 58:01

Did you ever see the Warriors?

SPEAKER_03 58:02

Warriors?

SPEAKER_00 58:03

So this came Warriors came out the same year. Oh. 79. Another gang, another New York gang movie with a lot of wild gangs.

SPEAKER_04 58:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

A bit darker all the way through. You know, different movie. Kind of the same in some parts. Anyways. Um The Rogues, I think that was the name of the, you know, the Warriors. What'd you just say? Yeah. Um, they had guns.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:24

And I don't know which which came first, but they very much reminded me of the rogues, just punks. Like who are willing to murder somebody?

SPEAKER_03 58:31

We're should shoot them. Like and they were like, no, no, no, no guns. So you can't come. It's like, well, then we're not coming. So two two of them say no. And then what's the name of the third group?

SPEAKER_00 58:40

Well, you got the wongs. The wongs. The wongs are hiding the whole time. We we were here early. We'd just been waiting to show up.

SPEAKER_03 58:48

They were some synchronized artists. Steady wag. Some synchronized martial artists.

SPEAKER_00 58:52

Oh my gosh. I love the I thought the wongs were so freaking cool when I first saw this movie.

SPEAKER_03 58:57

I bet you did. You really love a martial art, an Asian fighting.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

Every single scene in this movie has is premium entertainment value for an adolescent boy.

SPEAKER_03 59:14

Maybe as someone who was never an adolescent boy, that's why for me.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

I just remember watching this. This is Carrie this for the first time and being like, what is this? Like, and I did I for whatever reason I couldn't remember what it was called, or I didn't I didn't know. I picked it up in the middle of it or something. Uh and by the time it came around the second time, I was all over it. And then I bought the DVD and whatever. But um, yeah, you know uh do you know Sonny Jeracey? No, okay, you know, you know the song Time Won't Let Me?

SPEAKER_03 59:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:44

And Precious and Few.

SPEAKER_03 59:45

Yeah. Uh his son was friends with my This is like me trying to oh yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

Yeah, Justin. And he had a Ducky Boy shirt on one time. And I was like, wait a second. Is that from the wonders? He's like, yeah. I'm like, like he was immediately like the coolest kid. Yeah. Plus, he could also play the guitar really well too. Figured that his dad was a rock star.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:07

Um, all right, so so then the dad says, I heard you're having some trouble with some gangs, we can help you out. And basically kind of like takes control of it. Kind of doesn't really seem like Richie wants to get the dads involved. I don't think so. No. And so then they go set up a a good good thing with the dads of the dads? Are they the dads of the Dell Bombers?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:29

I think so.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:30

The adults of the Dell Bombers.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

Who are the we think they might be men of the They look like pimps, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:38

Maybe that's just uh men of the night. The men of the ladies of the night.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:44

One of the gangs was literally called the Pimps. You know? Like maybe it was just a uh 60s thing. I I don't know. Maybe that's just how you dress when you're uh dress nice.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:54

I also wanted to talk about bowling alleys just in general, because as someone who only ever went to the bowling alleys like after bowling alleys were like the nice places to hang out, like the bowling alley I ever went to was just like clearly a tired place, which you've we've been to. Looks the same, essentially. And it's like this bowling alley looks like super clean, super nice. Like it's obviously like culturally like where people were hanging out, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

Well, if you misbehave in there, they're gonna break your hand.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:23

Well, if you go and try to hustle some people, so then my favorite scene was when they when they um beat up those kids and he punched them in the stomach and all the money cash just exploded.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:35

It's a literal money shot.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:36

The money punch, yeah, that's what I wrote.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:38

Yeah, that's a nicer way to put it.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:40

Uh so yeah, so now they're so now Richie's in with the dads.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:44

They Richie's watching that whole thing, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:47

Yeah, and so then that's like he was basically saying, if you don't play football, which we didn't know that's what they were gonna do, but basically like you gotta win it. We got money on this now on your fight with

Emilio And The E.T. Street Game

SPEAKER_03 1:01:58

the guys. So then it takes you back to the apartment building with Joey, and you get to meet Emilio, his dad, and he's wearing a purple house coat. And I wrote, I don't like Emilio or his purple house coat. And he's and Joey's like painting this incredible mural.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:16

He's like, That's weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

His dad's like, Well, people like look like weird people. Doesn't like doesn't even really make any sense. Like, have you ever seen a sign, dude? You know what I mean? Like, it's not that weird.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:30

Every scene with a guy's dad. Every scene with Amelia.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

What was he saying when he was having his wife measure his muscle? About his bust biceps.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:42

He was like Schwarzenegger and puppy, just like talking about the pump.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:47

Yeah, so then they introduce the dad as a real jerk. Yeah. And also in the meantime, you find out that Perry's mom, he says she's got blood pressure problems, but really she's an alcoholic.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

And once his face is taking advantage of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:01

Yes, but we don't know that yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:03

True.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:03

Okay, so then I wrote, and you can tell you can you can describe this scene, but I wrote, I miss the days when groups of high school boys used to hang out on the street to cop feels instead of inside playing video games.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:16

That's really applying yourself. Dude, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:21

Video games have ruined society.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:25

Yeah, let's go play adult family earmuffs. I'll say it once. Okay, yeah. And then I'll call it E.T. from now on.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:31

They play a game called Elbow Tit.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:33

Oh, okay. Um I was like, how does adult family earmuffs translate to E.T., but I'm with you now.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:39

So we'll just call it E.T. Yeah. Okay, take your adult family earmuffs off now.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:43

Off of your adult family.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:45

If you're adult family, take them off.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:47

They're not for you. They're not for you.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:51

So uh E.T. is a game where game played in the Bronx by high school boys and high school boys and southern jackets. 30-year-old high school boys and southern jackets.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:05

The best kind of high school boys are 30.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:07

You walk up to a woman. By the way, what were brawls like that big?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

Yeah, they were.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:13

Okay. They're really torpedo-y.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:16

Kind of cool. So they that was not an anachronism.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

Okay, good. Alright, so they they're walking down the street, and then the game is that you kind of bump in to accidentally, quote unquote, bump into a woman with your elbow. With your elbow to her T, and you might co grap uh cop a feel while you're doing it. While you're doing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:44

So they're just standing there.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:45

And then kind of like gaslighting these women.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:48

Yeah. Oh, you but you bumped into me.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

And all the guys are like, eh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

Like also, like they're just standing there waiting for women to come.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:57

Chewing all matchsticks.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:58

Loudly, yeah. Loudly talking about what they're about to do. These women are like, I'm just I can't imagine being any less than a block away and not knowing what they were all up to.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:08

And then that one uh woman who's gotta be taller than Perry and Amelia on each other's shoulders.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:17

Who they they did that that thing. They did they didn't really do this. It's kind of like almost surreal. Like it was a woman, she kept morphing. She kept getting bigger and bigger as he got closer. Uh because Joey. I didn't notice that. Yeah, she she turned into three she started with it was three different women.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:36

I didn't notice that. I guess I was too busy looking at the jacket differences.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:39

Well, that's the that's the trade-off of you. Check out checking out Joey's butt.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

You miss the uh the miss the woman that you were checking out. It's for a transforming woman. She has more than meets the eye.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

So she uh basically throws Joey through a wall.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:53

I made a Transformers joke to see.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

More than meets the Oh my goodness. Here, come here, come here.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:58

Guys, it's hard to be funny with Everyone's like, that wasn't that funny. That's why you didn't stop.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

It was a really good joke.

unknown 1:06:06

That was great.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:10

That was nice. You did you the rhythm of it was really I want to play some meat tea with you real quick.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:17

No, I don't want that.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:18

Hey, watch where you're going.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:19

Hey, you ran into me.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:21

Why are you moving so fast in this? Why are you moving so fast in this line? Supposed to stand in line.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:28

I'm standing still.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:29

I'm standing here. So we gotta speed up. Okay, okay. He meets Nina. Nina comes down. Nina knows just what they're up to, but she likes it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:39

Seems to.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:39

It's really weird. They're playing Stranger on the Shore by Acre Bilk while Richie and Nina are talking. You know that song?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Bone.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:53

Okay, but I don't know. Okay, I'm I'm speeding it up. It's really strange juxtaposition there between like this really beautiful tune and a molesting.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:04

Yeah, and she like basically accuses him of molesting. But she's like, but she's like, but later I'm gonna call you and go to a party with you. It's cool with me, though. And he also tries to act like he's setting her up with his friend Joey, but he because he has a girlfriend already, Dipsy. Dispy.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:17

Dipsy. Let's call her Dipsy. They both um Dipsy. They both know what they were up to. Yeah, they did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:24

So anyway, so hop in the car.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:26

They go to Saint Break out and do up.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:28

Oh, that's when they break out and do up.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:30

Is that when they got it real fast?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

That's what I'm asking you about the timelines and stuff. All of a sudden it's night.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:38

I read something where there is, I don't I don't know about that specifically, but there is something where like with the scene with the girl that morphs that you missed, they do this kind of like what Stand By Me did, or like what the Sandlot did, where they kind of make make these situations where you're not exactly sure if it's if it's the way they remember it, or if it's the way that you know what I mean? Sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:02

Perception or reality.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:04

Like a Bo is a like a really subtle version of Bo is afraid. You haven't seen that, I haven't. We'll move on. So they've wind up in Ducky Boy country. The Ducky Boys are weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:14

They don't talk, they're all really weird, they don't make any noise.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:16

They don't yeah. They hang out in a church.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:20

They that church scene was kind of unsettling. Like it was really weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:26

And they like creepily smile. But anyway, Perry gets out of the church.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:30

Perry thinks he could take all of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:32

Yeah, and he tries and they break his hand and they just barely get out of there with their lives. Which is foreshadowing for poor old Turkey.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

Poor old Turkey.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:42

Because he doesn't get out of Ducky Boy territory later on with physics. They just chase him and then he and then he just falls off and dies on his own. Of up that tower thing. So anyway, then they end up at a party at the house of Dipsy. Because her

Party Scenes That Drag

SPEAKER_03 1:09:00

parents go out of town and they invite this girl that they just felt up all over the street. She comes.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:07

Wait a minute. Emilio. Well, she calls Joey. Emilio's like, hey, Joey, some dame's been calling you. She sounds like a librarian. You got books overdue? I wrote that down. Something like that. I I that cracks me up. I love Emilio. He's terrible.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:27

He's the worst, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

I gotta get an Emilio shirt.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:30

I don't want you to be.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:31

What do you say we get a big picture of Emilio right now?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:33

No. Is that you think that's what our buddy Seth wanted for the of his arms? You think that's what Seth had in mind for the green screen? That's right. Just like a we pick a character from whatever we're talking about, and that's what's on the backdrop of the day. Like they're right here with us.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:47

My buddy, our buddy Seth, who I put played bass with at church, he Well, Seth isn't the only one who plays bass.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:53

Rob Rob doesn't play bass with him.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:55

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:56

He plays bass with Rob.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:57

He's like the coolest dude ever. Like he he's not like he's like, I'm not trying to tell you guys, you know, how to do your show with him.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:04

Also, here's some free gum mints because they're always bringing us things. So nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:08

He gave me a whole thing of icebreakers. So thank you. Thank you, Seth. So Seth said, we'll give you uh we'll give you. Seth said it'd be cool if it looked like you were standing in line with people.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:21

I don't know why he thinks it doesn't look like we're standing in line, Seth.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:24

So I'm gonna get a green screen. I've I've been looking into it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:28

Are you gonna paint these babies green? This is what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:30

This is what I'm thinking. I'm gonna run it by you real quick and then we'll zoom through wanderers. Okay. We've talked about a lot of the scenes already.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

We have.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:35

This is what I'm thinking. We you know, like around the holidays when you're watching, like, like if you're at your parents watching Dish Network and that's Santa's workshop comes up and things randomly go across the screen. Yeah, I want to do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:49

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:50

Like I feel like we can make a dad could help you plan that out. Squeeze out a little bit of audience retention if somebody just wants to see just watch a mouse pickets.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:58

Amelia lift a weight. Measures by work punch a high schooler. Or 20,000.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:09

Break a break a wooden plank like he's freaking hacksaw Jim Duncan off of Dugan or whatever it's like off of a bench. Like a football field. Throw use ducky boys as weapons. He's like, this plank bores me. I'm gonna beat up your I'm gonna beat you up with your friends.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:29

Yeah, so like ultimately get into some fights about the at the party, and finally they let's just say that they arrive at the woman, the older woman, his friend.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:40

He's like hammered, he's drinking tango, like just taken to the dome. She's like, and he pukes in the trophy. Yeah. She's like, she's like, how am I gonna get home? Yeah. Like if you don't notice this dude's been sloshed for like six hours. Okay, go move on.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:55

So then they end up at the football field.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:56

That's where they play strip poker, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:58

Oh yeah, that scene I wrote. I wrote, what did I write?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:01

You can't exactly just skip over that.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:03

I wrote this poker scene is literally killing me. I also wrote the way they wear suits to parties. Like all the boys were wearing suits.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

And call out the dance moves?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:14

That was kind of fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:15

I want it, I want, I want that.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:17

You you want to do that? You want to go to a party where they call out the moves?

SPEAKER_03 1:12:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:20

I'm gonna know like two.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:22

Well, yeah, but you could learn. But anyway, they have this incredibly long strip poker scene that just doesn't really ever go anywhere at all. And she's like, I never played this before. But she's like sitting there with no clothes on.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:35

And they're both just sitting there like oggling.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:38

Yes, it's so uncomfortable. I don't even really want to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:42

Anyways, I did count. It went on for over three songs. This boom, they played like a jukebox. Boom, boom, boom. Wow. Three and a half.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:51

The whole song.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:52

I wrote down the movie would only be an hour if the strip poker scene wasn't in it and the never-ending nesting box.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:59

Oh yeah. At the back at the end.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:01

Keeps opening the box.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:02

Yeah, his smaller and smaller boxes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:05

It ends up being a uh a prophylactic.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:08

Oh yeah. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:09

Like that. Put it on your phallic. So anyway, they finally get phallic prophylactic.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:12

They finally get. Oh, at the football game, does he know that his girlfriend's pregnant?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:18

Yeah. She's so they're hooking up at chur in a some sort of catacomb?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:23

Yes, like under a Catholic church. It's so weird, you guys. Don't ever do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:29

Oh, we breezed over where the Baldies all got recruited to the Marines.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:33

Oh, yeah, they're all drunk and they went and this guy was like, damn it, don't you? And Pee's like, don't.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:39

Damn it, you know what you did.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:43

I want to talk about this movie for seven more hours. I can't wait to do that. You can't. I'm sorry if we're going to go.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:48

So they're playing football, and the black kids show up, and they are like in incredibly fine football uniforms. Like very nice, very put together.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:56

They have real quick, I do want to get to that. Let's just say Richie did knock up Desby.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:02

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:02

Mr. The Galoso brothers or whatever are in on it. They take kind of take them in. Shotgun wedding.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:08

What's he say? Um, you know, uh, you know, I hooked up with all sorts of whatever, but then he's like, but I never did nobody's daughter.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:17

Yeah. Some good lines.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:21

That guy is something.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:22

He doesn't look like someone that had a lot of girlfriends. Just saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:25

He doesn't, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:26

He looks like maybe he said you'll grow into it.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:28

It's like Larry Flynn, kind of.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:30

Well, he gave him that big oversized Tawaian shirt, and he was like, You'll grow into it once you get married. So I guess you're gonna get the founders.

unknown 1:14:38

Jeez.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:39

It was a what a guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:41

It was a time.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:42

So Del the Del Bombers and their and their football finery.

Football Game Brawl And The Wongs

SPEAKER_03 1:14:47

The Del Bombers and their football finery. Yes. And they have a a squad with male cheerleaders that come out with some incredible gymnastics.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:54

It's like the Blues Brothers uh church scene.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:57

It was great. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:59

Much better than the Ducky Boys church scene.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:01

Yeah, that's true. So the uh the wanderers are like literally wearing jeans that they have rolled up to their knees. And they're not the tight-fitting jeans from earlier, they're like loose work jeans. And they're just they can't do Richie's not playing because they're all mad at Richie because he stole Joey's girl.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:19

Richie's a bit of a jerk.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:20

He's kind of a slimy. He's a child. Kind of a sleaze. Yeah. He's about to be a father, though. So he's got to straighten up. So he sees how badly they're getting beaten by the Dell Bombers, Richie does. So he steps in, he's like, I'm gonna be the quarterback, and Joey's gonna be the halfback. And then they start winning, right?

unknown 1:15:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:37

Which seems ridiculous. Yeah, it's yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:40

It's every it's every movie ever.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:41

Then the Ducky Boys show up. For whatever reason, we do not know.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:45

Andy Sandberg shows up on the scene for a stiletto. Jake Baralta. I swear that dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:52

It does look like maybe it's his dad. Find out. Not on this podcast, but next for next time. So he so then for whatever reason, there's like trillions of Ducky Boys there.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:04

They just keep popping up like a horror movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:06

Like the way they brought them on was that has to be like the one and only element of thriller.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:11

Hitchcock. Yeah, very Hitchcock. That's great. That's great. Makes look at me. I'm working on my Cenophile ship.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:18

So anyway, then they have a big brawl with them. Looks like the Ducky Boys are winning there for a minute.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:23

Well, the Wongs come in. The Wongs come in. Because they're just sitting there watching. The Baldies weren't in it. I wish the bodies were in it. I really want to see Terra fight. He was a wrestler too, apparently.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:32

Weren't they in the Marines by that point?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:33

I guess they ship them off that quick.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:34

Because she well, that's my question. Because then she's crying about how the Marines don't write her letters. Yeah. I'm like, well, how long have they been gone?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:40

Yeah, I I felt I I I I was I swear I was listening to you before, but you're you're you're really making sense right now. I d I don't I don't know. Her hair grew out too.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:51

Well she styled it differently, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:52

Okay, I guess that's not much about hair.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:54

So they're fighting the duckies, the duckies look like they're winning, but then the tides turn. I don't really and there's no clear for like they play this awful like horror music. Yeah. And then for about ten seconds, they play like poppy sixties.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:11

And then they go back to the horror music. It's very jarring, doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:16

They must have done the music with those six minutes. To say something something had to have happened where because the Ducky Boys It almost like they were sort of winning.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:26

Yeah, and then they just start leaving.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:28

And Amelia was there there are pockets of the battle where the wanderer's side was definitely winning. Sure. Basically anywhere where Amelia Mike Hagger uh was, but I'm with you. It's it was a cool fight. I enjoy the heck out of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:44

But it wasn't that great. I felt like it was very fake.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:48

It was. When I say a cool fight, I mean like um you haven't seen uh They Live, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:55

Oh my gosh. Everything is this reference to the floor. Okay, that's why we had to make the Jeffries data sheet.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:00

There's yes. There's some fights. I hate the Jeffries data sheet. There's some fights that okay, here's a good example. Deep Space Nine Triples fight. It's this terrible fight. As far as choreography goes, it's terrible. But it's just great.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:16

Well, I understand that. But yes, I just wanted to make sure you knew that it wasn't good. No, I did think You know that was a bad you're right.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:24

I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said nothing. I'm sorry, Tara.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:28

Tara You know what you do.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:30

You know what you do.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:34

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:35

So then whatever, then they all unite together. The Dell Bombers and the Wanderers.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:40

They're friends now. Are they all pals?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:42

And then like one of them comes to his bachelor party where with the nesting boxes full of one condom.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:47

Yeah, kind of Teddy Wong was there.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:49

Yeah.

The Ending And What Never Resolves

SPEAKER_03 1:18:51

And some random lady singing The Wanderers.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:54

Yeah, the lady busts out Dion, she's not afraid.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:56

But then Perry and Joey, they have to get out of town because Joey's dad has been sleeping with Perry's mom. And he shows and Perry after oh and and sorry. Joey's dad punches Perry. Bart. Joey's dad punches Joey in the stomach really hard. And so then he's like, I'm never going back there. And so he's sleeping across the hall with Perry. Perry's mom is in the hospital with alcoholism. We don't really know. And he's like, I'm never going back to my dad's. I'm never gonna live there again, or whatever. And so then they decide they're gonna go to California.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:32

Dad shows up.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:33

The dad shows up to sleep with the woman with alcohol.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:36

So he's like getting this just he's a predator. Yeah. He's at all for as much as I love Emilio. Emilio needs to go down. Yeah. Emilio needed something harder than a big one.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:46

Unfortunately, though, Perry has a broken hand. So I feel like he's at a disadvantage because I think he probably couldn't have taken Emilia.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:53

But also, but Perry had there's like kind of this old school they never quite developed.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:57

He's like, You that's your dad.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:59

He's like, That's your father. You don't hit your father like that. You shouldn't have done that.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:02

Yeah. You know, there's like this weird kind of honor thing in there. It's like you should just let him beat you.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:06

Yeah, yeah. You deserve this.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:08

Because you know that Perry Perry fought what, like eight bodies at once? Yeah. Who's those dudes are massive, by the way. They're not small.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:15

And so then Joey cracks us, cracks the bottle over the dad's head and knocks him out. So then they're like, we gotta get out of here right now. So then they go to the bachelor party bachelor party and then they leave. And that is is that it?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:27

That's it, pretty much, yeah. We I know we skipped some details of several scenes, but did you have any other comments that didn't get made? Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm sure I did. But I said how much time do we have left to talk about Southern Play listening?

SPEAKER_03 1:20:40

Like 15 minutes. The scenes with the Ducky Boys are too much, I said. The fight scene in Tidy Whitey's is so sad. And then I said, This is if Disney made kids.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:51

Yes. It was like a yes. That's that's great. That's a great way to put it. We'll leave it at that. Um, with that comment anyway. I said they were singing Volare. Do you know the song Volare? Volare.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:04

They're singing that in class while they were like chanting terrible things at the Black Gang. Um, but I do love that song. I'd like to cover that sometime. I gotta learn some Italian. Uh a cappella car scene. We talked about elbow. We talked about ET, magic stick chewing. I think we talked about that. Money punch, strip poker.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:24

I think we covered it all.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:26

We we actually did Chubby's uh motorized chair stair lift.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:30

Oh, wow. I know. I was like, maybe they had those back then.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:33

Yeah, you yeah, Leslie's uh Leslie has one of those.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:36

I I don't have one. My mom and dad have one.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:39

The way they kind of just shoved JFK and Bob Dylan into it, like this is now like a thought piece.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:45

Yeah, so now we're all crying about it and yeah. Wait a minute. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:48

I wrote down Richie's just having a bad day. His friend hates him, his girlfriend's bad. He got her pregnant, the president got shot. I wrote, our pets' heads are falling off.

Outkast Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik Deep Dive

SPEAKER_00 1:22:04

Alright, outcast, baby. That's a dumb and dumber. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:07

Tell us the name of the song because you kept saying it to me, and I kept being like, I'm gonna need you to just write this down because I don't know what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:13

The name of the song. And album, actually. The name of the song and the album, yes. They shared the same name. Southern Playlistic Cadillac music. In the hook, it's Cadillac funky music.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:30

Yes. 1994, I believe. Outcast debut album.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:34

Oh, that was their debut album. What else was on there? What was like the main track off that?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:40

The biggest hit on there was Play As Ball. Um that actually got a bit of that that put them on the map. Organized Noise was you asked me who Organized Noise was.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:52

Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:53

I don't I don't know. I don't remember why you asked me.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:55

It was in the credits of the when I was watching the words go by on the Apple.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:58

Oh, gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:59

It was at the end. It was written by Andre3000.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:01

So Organized Noise is what put this is the the I guess the record producer that would put this together.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:08

Is that a person?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:09

No, I don't believe so.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:11

A company?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:12

And so they did Goody Mob. Like you know when they end the song where it's like in the dungeon, good uh Big Gip, Goody Mob, PALCA, Southern Playlistic. Okay. Well, do you know CeeLo Green?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:24

He was in Goody Mob.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:26

So they kind of came out about the same time.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:28

They were both under organized noise. And Big Boy and Andre 3000 were probably 18.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:38

Oh my gosh, the babies.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:39

Yeah. So like they met at the mall. Like this song is like almost about like what they it's like. It's super childish, but also kind of like. Like they weren't like real. They gotta throw in like the you know, the token gangster talk. Yeah, but they weren't really gangster. Talking about, you know, got the the the P U M P for anybody talking, you know, although I should know the lyrics because I just sang them. But you're a rap singer. I'm a rap singer. But uh it's just funny because they they didn't they kinda they kind of stopped the hard, like kind of the violent um rapping.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:20

Violent lyrics in their later albums, like A.T. Aliens and Quem and I and Stanconia, I think was out when we were in college. Um I had like bombs over Baghdad on it. They've kind of became a bit more into the I wrote down that they're they're almost like hip-hop Beatles, and the way that they constantly evolved and it always worked. I mean, I was crazy for the Southern hip hop, like the way the Beatles brought the UK. I know I'm really preaching here, but the way the Beatles brought helped bring England into, you know, mainstream rock and roll, they did with like Southern hip hop. Like all these people followed behind of like ludicrous. I mean you'd have like some folks at Flowrider. Yeah, for real.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:02

Like he's from Southern. Flowrider owes a lot to uh to Andre 3000 and uh Big Boy Big Boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:09

So, anyways, I love speaker box. I do love outcast, yeah. Speaker box and uh what was the The Love Below. Love Below, yeah. They just always they always have great stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:18

Yeah, they're very, very fun and very there's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:23

Crumbling Herb was on this album. I I didn't really get into Outcast till probably college. Dwangle was uh like I knew some of I knew like Elevators from like ATL Ians. I don't even know if I'm saying that right, but ATL IENS is their second album. That's when they really kind of started.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:40

Atliens is what I would have said.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:41

Atlions, that's probably what it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:42

I don't know, but I don't know. Well I'm always saying Atlanta, like ATL, like Atlanta Airport.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:47

Anytime I hear them refer to Atlanta, they're calling it ATL. So I just who knows? But Dwangle listened to this album a lot, so I listened to it too. But Crumbling Herb is another great tune on here. I love uh it's a great, it's a really good album, like all the way through. Yeah, I listened to it and I was background, but I think you'd love.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:09

Yeah. I do love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:12

So the way we did this song was I can't remember if I did this song with the bendables or not.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:21

Uh what was the song you were doing the night we met?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:24

Crumbling herb.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:26

That's the one I completely screwed up. I've the I blanked on I tried to memorize the whole thing like the day before, and I was all torn up of whether how to sing the hook because I don't want to head words in it that I shouldn't be. You don't want to be saying. Yeah. Like like race war words.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:39

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:40

So, anyways, I I just bombed it. But I think we did something playlistic kind of like music too. Anyways, the way that we did this, you and I, as uh I played acoustic guitar, you played keys, with the uh funky whatever kind of effect, kind of a sort of a remote.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:00

It was called funky EP.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:01

Funky EP.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:02

Mm-hmm. Electric piano.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:04

And I sing um that makes sense. I sing the I sing the the the rap.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:11

You did, and I love that.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:13

I don't know why that's not more popular. Like, I want to hear more people do that.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:20

I just want to hear you do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:21

I I like doing it, I enjoy doing it. I feel weird actually rapping it.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:26

Did you feel less weird singing? Sing rapping.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:28

When we did the next when we did the next movement.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:30

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:31

When we did uh well we haven't done it yet, but I've been kind of messing around with I ain't mad at you for a while.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:36

Um I got nothing but love for you.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:39

Yeah, it's got a sick piano part on it. You could sing the hook, you'd be Danny Boy. But there's so many Uncle Danny Boy? Uncle Danny Boy.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:47

How about Danny Boy? Uncle Dan could be Uncle Danny Boy.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:50

Man, we gotta get we gotta get Uncle Dan. Uncle Dan down here to do I ain't mad at you.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:54

Yeah. You hear that Uncle Danny Boy?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:57

There's so many hip hop songs that are extremely Have a lot of musicality. And there's just no reason you couldn't sing.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:04

Sing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:05

And there's some folks like Bone, you know, Bone sang a lot, um, Ferrell Mach sang a little bit. You got like CeeLo Green, sort of, Nate Dog sort of. Honestly, the person who I've probably where I first got the idea to sing rap songs or hip hop songs is um Jack Johnson, Rodeo Cons. It's basically what he's doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:25

He's basically rapping.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:26

Yeah, that's cute.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:27

But there's so many, I mean, I don't know. There's there's uh I'm not saying like I'm the only one doing it, I'm sure that's not true. But if you know a good example of it doesn't have to be acoustic, but just a rap uh a classic rap cover with a singer on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:45

Yeah. Where they're singing the rap, not just a hook.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:47

Yeah, where they're s yeah, not just a hook, they're singing the whole rap. Um there's so much potential there.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:54

Maybe this is your niche, you finally found it.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:56

Yeah. Well, hey, if it gets somebody else to do it, or if you can find something that's I'm gonna keep we'll keep doing them. We'll keep working them in, but because I got a million of them I'd like to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:08

Just have a real way about you when you do them.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:11

I enjoy I enjoy it because I love that I love this song. I don't normally like singing, but I I feel like you don't like to sing.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:18

I that's a real question. You don't like to sing.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:20

I really don't. I don't dislike it. It's I feel uh I feel kind of vulnerable when I do it, although this this this this is helping me, this whole venture venture is helping me get way more comfortable with it. But I I get a lot I get a lot more personally out of playing the guitar. Like I feel like that puts me in the zone more.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:44

All I want to do is sing.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:46

When I'm playing when I'm just playing lead, I just or when I just get into a groove, I get there way faster than singing is like it takes me out of the groove that the guitar has me in. But singing like this keeps you in the rhythm, kind of. I'm not I didn't I didn't plan how I was gonna sing anything. So I'm kind of I'm not doing anything crazy, but I'm sort of improvising.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:09

And that's fun for me.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:10

You just following that chord structure that.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:12

Yeah, so and so I'm I kind of try to play it like I maybe would play it on the guitar. Guitar I'd do a a bit more, but anyways, it's uh it's it's a good time. And and you you sang the uh the hook on it and played the keys.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:25

Yeah. And you I didn't do a lot, but it was fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:29

You learned that about what five minutes? Did you play the first time you practice it five minutes before?

SPEAKER_03 1:30:34

Everyone who listens to it's gonna be like, yeah, clearly she spent five minutes on that.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:39

But it sounded good. It was what it sounded grid.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:47

Thank you. It could have been better, but this is not my ideal environment for playing an instrument. It's so hard with like all these lights shining behind the music and the keys are dark and the the keyboard stand is moving. I have a lot of excuses.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:04

No, I'm I'm with you.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:06

It's way better than the closet we used to film in, so I'm not saying anything bad about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:11

Yeah, and we you know, if you I don't know when the last time we said this, but we take two takes. This one we just took the first one. Yeah, basically, the way it works is if we get it in one and it's like it could have a few screw-ups, whatever. Um, we don't do more than two. Right. There was one that was five because we had it some sort of just couldn't. Yeah, we were just both having a hard time and we hadn't practiced.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:35

Remember when I made us do the girl is mine, and it was way harder than we thought it was gonna be. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:40

That was so hard. That was such a hard song to do. Oh

Cover Ideas And Learning Songs Right

SPEAKER_00 1:31:46

man, you've really I got I've said this a million times now, but you the key okay, two two two keys are gonna sound so stupid. If you want to do a song well, know learn the song really well. Know the song, say and two, practice the song a lot.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:06

Hey, I think you can be a teacher.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:09

But for real, if you I don't I know that sounds stupid, but honestly, I just started doing that. Yeah. This is the this one I've mentioned this before, one of the reasons I want to do this this podcast is because I wanted I want accountability to learn some music. Yeah, because I've just been noodling on a guitar for 20 years. So this is it's hard, but it's fun. But I so I've been reading some tidbits on like how to get good at playing guitar. And every like great guitar player is just says, practice the song that you're gonna play. Just do that. Just the whatever song you're gonna play or songs if you got a set, drill them, drill them, drill them until you can screw them up. That's it. Like basically, it's just a bunch of people saying variations of that. If you're if you're if you're a jam, if you're jamming.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:52

This is a message for you guys. I already know this.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:54

I know you do, but if you're jamming and you want to, you're you know, kind of doing improv and stuff, get all the landing places right. Learn what intervals work in the song, and then jam around that, but play the song. Play the play off the bass line. Play, you know. I've just never done I know it's obvious stuff, I've just never done it before.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:15

Is there anything else you want to say about Outcast?

SPEAKER_00 1:33:17

Well, yeah, we got uh besides our besides our it's got um it's a uh Grover Washington Jr. song called Knucklehead that they sampled.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:26

And you know the you know um the We Gonna Get Ya that is a sample off of Lady Marmalade.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:36

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:37

Where it's some part of the song where they're uh really something by 11, I don't remember the the group who did it.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:47

But like the original Lady Marmalade.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:49

Yeah, it was like uh uh I don't know if it was the original recording, but it was a group doing that song.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:55

But as far as other people covering it, nothing. There's I found one drummer kind of playing on it, but it no awards for you guys then. I can't yeah, I couldn't find anybody.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:05

You get the award. I want you to cover it.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:08

We do, honey.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:09

But it really was you.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:10

We get the nobody award.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:11

Oh, you get the nobody award. I just want you to have the nobody award. I will gift my portion of the nobody award to you. You get the double nobody. You're double nobody. Oh, Tara. I don't know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:25

Are you uh you're Pee-wee, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:27

Uh yeah. Duh.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:30

What's up with Joey beating her up at the end? And then being like, oh, Pee-wee.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:35

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:36

Just lots of It's almost so bad it's good, but it's not bad. Yeah, I know. It's so weird. It's just distraught.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:42

We can't talk about the wanderers anymore.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:44

It needed to be like four hours long.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:45

No, it didn't.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:48

Okay. Alright. So we're talking about uh this is the part where we talk about covers. Yeah, anything else you want to say about the planet? No, I liked the I wanted to play solo stuff. I wanted to play solos on that so bad. But the words and singing them and breathing and all that stuff, like No way, it it was so tricky, and I had to edit it too because I'm reading the words with all the actual lyrics on it, and I'm just remembering, okay, what am I gonna say for the in-word? You know, well um the family earmuff words, the family earmuff words, especially. So, anyways, I I this is a good song to jam on, is what I'm getting at. It's it's it's pretty nasty. You can play all sorts of stuff on it.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:29

One more time, what's it called for the audience? Southern playlistic Cadillac music. But it's got lots of Z and stuff in it.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:38

So Alcast is really good at making up words.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:42

Yeah. Do they have a filibungulator song? I feel like they should.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:47

They should have a filibungulator song. They got a song, one of my favorite Alcast songs ever is Spottyati Dope Alicious. It's the one that's got the horn on it. And it's just it's singing in in spoken word, and it's the coolest tune. I could let it go on forever, and I'd just be totally fine with it.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:09

It'd be fine. You take it to your desert island.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:10

Yes. Uh yeah. Yeah. That was another app we did if you wish. Check it out. If you want to cruise the Jeffries data sheet. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:18

Alright, what's your B side?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:20

Oh crap, I gotta get that out.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:22

What the heck? My I I whipped one up in the last two hours.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:27

Oh, did you?

SPEAKER_03 1:36:28

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:28

Well, I mean, Spotty Audi Dopealicious would definitely be a good candidate. Um that's not probably the one I'm gonna pick. What else did I put in here? I got Crumblin' herb. That's I uh that that might be my favorite song on the album.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:45

Okay, so you're going with just outcast songs.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:47

I'm just I'm working through it here. I'm thinking I was thinking uh Supercalifragilistic XPL Discord.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:55

Oh my gosh! So they actually say a superfragic. I saw that.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:59

Super caliphragic or what's it kind of like superfrag I can't remember. Yeah. Uh I it's one of those things, it's like saying the ABCs where I have to like say the I have to wrap the entire song to get the lyric. Calephragic, can you handle it?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:16

Expiala expialistic coupe de ville.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:19

Yeah, expialistic coupe de ville. They remind me a lot of like Camp Lowe. I know you don't okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:25

Yeah, what's your B side?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:27

So my B side is You have to pick up. I'm gonna go with uh Street Talking by Um Slick Rick.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:33

I don't know it, but I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:34

It's uh so this is kind of a street talking by by kids, basically. Okay. Street talking's a little more adult version and it's got Big Boy on it. Oh. And it's a slick rick song, killer song. I would actually like to do it sometime.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:48

Alright, well, I went with this is my worst of the three, but I went with Nice and Slow by Usher.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:55

Do I know that song?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:56

Yeah. It's seven o'clock. Oh, yeah. What made you kid uh just cars talking about because that talks a lot about Cadillacs and stuff like that, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:38:09

Two-fat uh ladies uh in a Cadillac brome. Yeah. Thick like a two-fat girl sitting off at a brome. Their lyrics are so ridiculous, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:19

And honestly, it was probably out around the same time.

unknown 1:38:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:24

I was in eighth grade, I think, when that My Way album came out. Well, I was in eighth grade when My Way. My Way. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:34

So that's my that's my weakest for the three.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:37

Okay. What about cover? If you could hear anybody cover this song, who would it be?

SPEAKER_03 1:38:42

Tell us, Rob.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:43

Well, first let me uh let me tell you who it's not.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:46

Okay, great.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:46

I thought I thought CeeLo Green and uh CeeLo Green in the front, because he he's actually on this album um with Goody Mob doing what I'm doing, singing the lyrics all the way through. With have you ever heard Tom Mish? Dan Dan Steve's brother, Tor's brother, told me about it. I was listening to him cool with like him. He's kind of got like a real funky guitar playing. Okay. Or Nigel Hall or Lettuce or my Dirty Dozen Brass Band that could flow in like Spotty Eye Devilish or something like that. But I think I'm gonna go with postmodern jukebox, and this is what they have a version of something because what I'm about to propose might be the answer to what I was talking about before.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:32

I want postmodern jukebox to have like a troupe that they just do hip-hop stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:39

And they do like recreated songs with a killer singer singing singable hip-hop songs.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:46

Yeah. Are you gonna send that into Bradley? I'm sure his name Bradley.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:49

I'd be like every time I've it entered candy and video game ideas, the companies are like, that's a great idea, but we don't take unsolicited advice. He never even read my idea for candy shell candy bars.

unknown 1:40:02

Candy shell candy bars.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:04

Like a giant um Cadbury mini egg.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:08

Or donuts that have multicolored sprinkles on both sides.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:12

Ugh. Well, you think you know why they can't do that?

SPEAKER_00 1:40:14

Because it's a mess?

SPEAKER_03 1:40:15

Yeah, they would get everywhere.

unknown 1:40:17

I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:18

So do wings.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:20

Those are like contained.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:22

Wings with sprinkles.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:24

Sprinkle wings. Alright, well, mine was Marcus King.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:27

Winkles.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:27

And the Marcus King band.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:29

Nice. You know, so is that why you listen to all the Marcus King earlier?

SPEAKER_03 1:40:32

Yeah. Because I just don't I just I feel like you have such I don't feel like this. I know that you have a deep burn well spring of musicians to draw from when you're coming up with covers. And I'm like, I just have like the same ten people that I'm like, oh, I want to hear Tyler Childers do this, or I want to hear CR Farrell.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:51

It's like it's what you want to hear.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:53

So I was like, I I was like, well, it would be kind of a cool blues. That hook is because it's in a minor key, but it also has that sax that plays the blues on there. So I was like, I think Marcus King could do this, and he could get his hot wife to stand next to him.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:08

I was listening to this week, too.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:11

Were you?

SPEAKER_00 1:41:11

Yeah, he's he has but I think he's been in our covers before. I know I've said him before at some point, but no, he he'd he do great. And um the sax on this song.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:21

Yeah. Sorry, I couldn't even c begin to catch up with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:24

Oh, the other song that I thought said it would be cool if we did was Streets of New York by Cool G Rap.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:29

And they they got a sax on that. I swear. I I I tried to see if it was the same sax player, but anyways. Um soundtrack. Soundtrack.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:40

Mine's more I'll I'll go with mine if you want to hear it. It's it could be a cover too. But I was just thinking, let's go full circle and get those pimp dads from the wanderers to do this song.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:52

Oh, they're in the movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:54

In the movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:55

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:55

Like how they had that random doo-wop car The Wanderers did, but now it's the Pimp Dads from uh the Dell Bombers.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:02

Now that would be an anachronism. But it would be fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:06

Yeah, wouldn't it? Fantastic. They just all turn around with their long coats on and their top hats, and they just start singing and rapping that song.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:13

I'd I'm I'm in.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:14

Okay. What's your soundtrack?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:16

Uh, pretty on the nose, but I'm gonna go with hustle and flow.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:20

Do you ever see that?

SPEAKER_03 1:42:21

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:23

Do you know what it is?

SPEAKER_03 1:42:25

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:28

You can say what it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:29

It's a song about a dude trying to get into it's like southern hip hop, and he's trying to get into it. Yeah, he's trying to build a pair.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:40

You know what's hot out here for us.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:42

That's from Hustle and Flow.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:45

And is that based on a true story?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:47

I don't know. Ludacris is in it. My it's not my Luda. I I don't love that music. I don't like the it's kind of like the dawn of trap rap, sorta. Like the the rap the so-called mumble rap today. You know, it's not my favorite. That's an understatement. Um some of it, it's not all bad, but whatever. Um I think this song would be great in it because that sort of paved the way for folks like the protagonist. I can't remember Terrence. Um, I can't remember his character, but it'd be a nice there's a lot of songs on that on that album I did not like, and I would love liked to hear I would have liked to have heard some of the more roots kind of southern hip-hop stuff like Yeah. You know, Scarface. I like the root and the well roots are from Philly.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:39

Roots like their beginnings, the start.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:43

Gotcha. From once they grew. Awesome.

Schedule Updates And Closing Prompts

SPEAKER_03 1:43:47

Well, we hope you hope you're not too sad about your week off, but we're back.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:52

We are gonna do another week off, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:54

Yeah, I thought we were doing it for a while.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:56

Every other week for schedule for a while.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:59

These uh Jeffrey's data sheet.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:00

Because we're going on vacation, stuff like that. We can't be messing around.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:03

Can't be messing around. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:05

Get Jeffree's data sheets ready to help you out and if you need to, you know. Also, there's no way that the 30, how many subscribers do we have now? 36?

SPEAKER_00 1:44:13

I think we're it's 37.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:14

There's no way that all 37 of those people have listened to all 37 of our episodes, so or whatever we're on now. What are we on? 35?

SPEAKER_00 1:44:21

I think this is 34.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:22

34. See? You got plenty of material, guys. And you're sure you started a bunch and never finished them. So go back to those and finish them.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:29

Get your Jeffries data sheet.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:30

Start looking for things you think might be interesting. Pick your favorite person on the Jeffries data sheet. Go listen to all their references. You're gonna love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:40

You are just gonna hear. Okay, guys. Bye bye. It is hard out here for a pimp, honey.