Uncle Phil Hustles a Pool Shark & Urkel Becomes Bruce Lee | Ep 36

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90s Bar Fight Cold Open

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On this episode of The Audience Will Like It.

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Listen, in the 90s, you couldn't go to a bar without running into somebody, spinning a bow staff around.

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You couldn't go to the bar w to a bar in the 90s without somebody getting kicked out of a window in some motion.

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No, I know. The bar in the Star Trek episode that we watched was it's far more believable that they were on a spaceship at a bar than these people in an Earth bar in the 1990s. If someone's accusing you of something, it's eventually gonna come out that you probably did do it.

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Yeah, but we're talking about Sasha Mitchell here, not over against the bar people for insulting. Okay, get some new apologize. It's Laura. Yeah.

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And in order to do that, he's decided to use his transformation chamber to turn him into Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee. Carlton's joke when he's like setting this girl like he's getting all romantic and he's like, just took a multivitamin.

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So speaking of the UK, you could you could argue, and this is going on a limb, but you could argue that the Beatles might not be the Beatles had it not been for Elizabeth Cotton.

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That's crazy. Oh, it's great to be back.

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Yeah.

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Are we here? Are we back?

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Could you keep quiet for just a second? I have important business to get.

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Uh, well, you weren't making noise, so I felt like we can't have a quiet.

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Oh, sorry. Oh, I'm not sure. I'm ready to be quiet. Oh, thank you, honey. You didn't have to.

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I'm shushing you.

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Oh, okay.

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Two married friends in a basement room. Surround standing in line. I want to surround us in clothing so bad. I know. With two microphones. They got in a car crash. She died in his arm. He kissed her lips. The audience won't like it. No.

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Stare deep into my dead eye.

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You have you I I I do I am looking forward. You have if you guys can't uh if you're just listening and or you can't see Leslie's eyes from here, they're quite beautiful. I uh it's one of your one of your your greatest qualities. I am looking forward to see what they look like dead. Oh my god. Not that I'm looking forward to you being dead, but I might as well.

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Do you think that you're gonna be wanting to look at them?

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It's like a silver lining kind of situation.

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So I I do get to die first?

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Well, not for real.

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We have an agreement that I get to die first because I cannot live without Rob, but I know that Rob can live without me. So don't you think it seems fair?

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Yeah, but would I really be living?

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No. You've seen how I You'd be living in squalor.

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What did you uh what did you say? Oh, let me put my headphones on. What did you say that I would uh like if it what if I weren't around, you would you would go down to the basement and disappear for 11 days straight without everything?

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We used to say about my dad that if if my mom wasn't around that we'd come home and my dad would be surrounded in stacks of junk mail and cans with spoons on him.

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Cherry uh cherry pie filling.

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Cherry pie filling. He used to make quote cherry pies all the time. We would buy pre pre-made pie crust and then dump cherry pie filling in it and put it in the oven.

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This is the way.

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This is the way.

Waiting In Line And Father’s Day

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Welcome to our podcast, guys. It's called The Audience Won't Like It. It's a line simulation podcast where we simulate waiting in line. And as you can see, we're in a line now. We're in a facing each other line. Because we're like in line for like a ride, so it's like a little bit of movement, a little bit of stopping going. We're actually in line for a concert though, which that's a concert. It's uh who are we seeing today?

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Elizabeth Cotton. Libba Cotton.

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She go by Libba.

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Yeah, I think I'm saying that right. L-I-B-B-A.

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Yeah, how else would you say that? Libba. Libba?

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I I don't know, because she named herself.

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Are you gonna tell us more about that at the end?

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Yeah, would you remind me to?

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I'll try.

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Okay.

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But we're doing a song by Elizabeth Cotton called Frigate Train.

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Frigate Train, yes.

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And we this here's the fun twist of the podcast is after we talk about you know what you might talk about waiting in line, which is just like, you know, any random topic. Like a bunch of like fathers bar scenes of fathers saving because this is our father's day special, actually. It's a very special Father's Day special. Oh, I opened up with a dad with a story about my dad, and I didn't even know.

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Look at you doing that. Oh my gosh. That's amazing.

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Anyway, uh yes, so this is it. This is it. So at the end at the end, there's gonna be a concert by Elizabeth Cotton slash Robin Leslie.

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I just sort of looked at the camera and kind of went like that. I'm not sure why I did that. Hey you. I think it was for all the dads.

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What's your mom watching?

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This is for the dad's mom. Look away.

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Yeah. Close your eyes, Terry.

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Hey dads.

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Hey Bruce, hey Howard. Um yeah. So Uncle Dad. One thing, oh yeah, he's a dad. He's an uncle and a dad. He has a dad.

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It's amazing.

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It's amazing.

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It is amazing. It's good to have uh as many dads in your life as you can.

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The good kind, though. We only have the good kind in our lives.

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It's actually really probably very easy to get a bunch of bad dads in your life.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't take it doesn't take much to be a dad.

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Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead.

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To be a father, but it takes a something special to be a dad. We'll have to circle back to that one. One thing I didn't talk about before we started that I I do what you have to say, you have to say a nice thing about your dad somewhere.

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Okay, can I just say a nice thing about Miss Johnson?

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Sure.

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Who never gave up on me in third grade?

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Uh-huh. Is she a dad?

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It's just the older RB commercial from the 1990s.

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Oh yeah. Man, you're really throwing it back.

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Was it Miss Johnson?

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What did we watch? At Mystery Science Theater? Yeah. With the original commercial. With the commercials.

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I I know we're I know I'm jumping past what we're getting to, but I I had in my notes. So we're gonna jump around a little bit. But Leslie

Jeffries Data Sheet And Comments

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and I were today we're talking about Just ask my mom.

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She's like, you guys never get to the point. It's not you guys, it's just Rob. I'm just along for the ride.

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Hey, check out the Jeffries data sheet. The the audience won't like it.com. Um I never get to the point. But if you want to search for quote unquote the point, a topic of your interest, uh because we've talked about thousands of things, quite literally. Like I have the data to prove it. Um if you want to find a topic, certainly at some point we talked about something you're interested in. Yeah. So go there, search for it. It's a work in progress, but it right now it's serviceable and it's pretty cool. So if you want to hear what we talked about, the Army commercial from the 90s, where we listened to where we watched uh Mystery Science Theater, Mitchell.

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Oh yeah, Mitchell.

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Uh with Joe Don Baker. That was a great dude. That was so funny.

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That was so great.

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That was the great. We need to do another one of those sometime with the commercials. We did 90s commercials.

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You did you did gloss right over. You have to say something nice about your dad today.

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My dad? Uh-huh. Well, I'll I'll say what I've said this week.

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Okay. Are you gonna say it right now? Yeah. Top of the F.

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This is no no joke here. He showed me what a good loving relationship looks like. Good job, Bridge. It's a great example of a father and uh a lot of integrity. One of the hardest workers I've ever known.

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Yeah.

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Yes. Good. It's all sorts of good things about it.

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Should I say something nice about my dad? Uh poor Popsy. He needs to hear the nice thing. Say something nice about Popsy. Say something nice about Popsy. Well, Popsy is probably two two wonderful things about Popsy is he's probably the smartest person that I know in real life.

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Take that dad.

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Well, your dad's really smart too. There's some different strengths. He's not Popsy smart. He's an ice cream doctor smart, not medical doctor smart.

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Yeah, that's I our ice cream doctor is a little bit more of a common sense thing, like street smart sort of thing.

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But also one thing about my dad is he's just very unbothered. Which has led him to be very kind and open-minded.

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Yeah.

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Over the years. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's a quiet background, supportive life. Lifelong learner, too. True.

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Yeah, good stuff. Also, some of the good things to say about our fathers.

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And he was also very kind to my mother. So that's how I knew that you knew how a nice dad because you were nice to me. Because I knew what it looked like. Look at us. High five.

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Look at us. I've uh I I I'm so nice to you that I even I want to kiss you while you're dead.

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Even because.

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But not make you that way. I'm not Jeffy.

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I want to hold you in my arms.

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Remember when poor Jeffrey last time? We just we just told him all the time.

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Did he comment about it? He did.

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Jeff did we hurt his feelings? No, Jeffrey.

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Okay.

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Jeff Dick's feelings. Come on. He knows what's up. He uh he had some good comments. He's uh puts a put a lot of good timestamps out there. Should I read the comments?

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Some a sampling.

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So we got um got we got a little bit of traction on the uh it's too late, the cover of uh the Coroli King. Um now when I say uh some traction, I mean like Seth called it that today.

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I think he did a good job on the Coroli King song.

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What a sweetheart. We love the Seth. Um got good cover.

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Yeah, that's it.

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That was from uh Abel uh Abel Abel uh Jimenez. All right, okay. Um Corey. Corey said, not bad, but you should really let your voice go.

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Yeah, that's me. That's a lifelong comment, Corey. You're not the first person to say.

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Wishing you the very best.

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Thank you, Corey.

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And I said, Thanks, Corey. I'll let Leslie know she needs to let her rip next time. And then I appreciate the feedback, brother. And then he said, 40 years in the music business as a singer and promoter for thousands of singers. I listened closely to this video, and my personal opinion is she has a nice voice. She just needs to let it come out. I'm going to subscribe to your channel, brother.

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Thank you, Corey.

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And then, of course, your uh little Laura.

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My little Laura.

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Little Laura, full soul creativity.

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What'd she say?

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Looks like some maybe some sort of popcorn emoji of some kind.

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Oh, I don't know. Yeah. I don't. She's I think that means they're there watching it.

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Is that what that is?

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I think so.

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That's neat.

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I'll check in with her. Well, I'll check in with little Laura. See what she says.

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Uh what did uh She's my sister. Hey, you're super quick at reading any of these things.

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Yeah, I'll take a quick look at this.

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Hey guys, uh while Leslie's reading that, if you want to uh you know be a part of the stuff. Oh yeah.

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Oh, he was asking about my friend Holly's podcast. It's called The Third Place. It's not a they do have videos. Uh they're not on YouTube, though. They're on uh Instagram. I'll have to ask her where where you can where she can be seen. You can listen to it on podcasts, and then I think I've just seen clips of them recording on on Instagram, so I'll follow up. Yes, I just got a miscall from the United States. Uh Rick and Morty co-creator Dan Harmon did an exaggerated impression of iced tea for multiple seasons, however, for the season seven special. They got the real ice tea involved to voice his character.

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So his father Jeffrey Magma T? Yeah, Magma T. Remember that? Jeffrey, quick question for you, ma'am. When you're listening to this, do you just know this stuff? Or are you actually looking it up? Real time looking it up. Kind of becoming a corrections corner. I'm not trying to put pressure on you. No pressure. I'm just wondering, are you help are you do you know this stuff and you're chiming in, or are you actually going out and looking it up and well he we talked about sexy beast and we talked about it what was written and what wasn't written, and he he does say, I looked it up.

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The screenplay was written by Lewis, Louis Mellis and David Sinto.

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Super helpful, dude. You don't have to keep doing this, but if you're going to, we'll really appreciate it. So thank you very much.

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Um I like it when he he uh feels my frustration. He has a comment about that about every video now.

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Because of me.

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Yeah. Yeah. He's on my side though.

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No, I'm sorry. I'm like sorry, but I'm not that sorry because I keep doing it. You alright? Yeah. Is that how it works?

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Yeah, sorry shows because. What's the frustration?

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Why don't you go ahead and voice it?

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I don't know. I'm just reading what he reads. Oh, okay. He said I feel the frustration.

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The frustration is when I say, Have you seen it?

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Oh yeah, and I'm like, No, no.

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No, because I did that to you a lot last time.

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And then I said something about how we have to end or I'm gonna die.

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But every now and then But every now and then you're like every now and then you're like, Yeah, I have seen it. And I'm like, really? And then we talk about it. That's like a maybe is there another way I could ask you.

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It's like a hole in one.

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Is there another way I could ask you if you've seen You could say let me know if you've seen this.

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Let me know if you've seen it. I'm gonna talk about this movie, let me know if you've seen it. Say that. And if I don't like say that I've seen it, you can just keep going. And then that way you don't have to out me. It'd be a lot easier. You don't have to out me to the internet on how much I haven't seen.

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It'd be a lot easier if you just do your part and go use use the Jeffries data sheet. Go on Audience Won't Like theaudiencewon'like.com.

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Look up all the things I asked you, have you seen this is getting quantum level now because our decisions change the past.

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Are we doing that today on a Patrick Duffy episode?

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Uh it bothers David.

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My dad loves quantum physics.

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I bet your dad doesn't like quantum physics.

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He doesn't. I think I'm gonna talk about it though, um speaking to the audience who won't like it. Just uh quick I'm working on two sermons right now. I'm uh we're doing rotations at our church where we take turns preaching. I'm doing psalms, so I'm learning songs songs for the psalms. And I'm probably gonna talk a little bit about Flatland. Ooh, for like maybe like a sentence? No, maybe like a lot more than that. Well, yeah, like I might actually.

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Should you post that episode on our church's Facebook page so that they have time to catch up?

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I don't think that will help them.

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I don't know what you mean.

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But I think about getting like a piece of paper and uh and uh and like a ball and kind of doing a little thing. We'll figure it out. Well, okay, before we get into our main topic, I'm gonna love

Books Birthdays And Mackinac Island

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that. Yeah.

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Before we get into our main topic, you got any things that you've been up to this week?

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Oh yes.

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I actually read a book.

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Did you? Congratulations. So I'd like to talk about it. The tell the golden uh theory of golden.

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It's like a very trending title at the moment, and I did get it and read it, and it it's lovely. It's beautifully written, it's interesting. It has lots of it's like one of those stories where um there's a main narrator and and he has all these interactions with characters, but then they kind of all are also weaving together outside of his interactions with them. You know, like I you know how there's always like good movies where people's paths cross and you don't Would it be like kind of like what they did in like Pillars of the Earth?

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Just a little less epic.

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Probably. I vaguely remember.

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I'm trying to think of books like that.

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No, this is very uh it just takes place over one year. Not like Pillars of the Earth, which I think took place over the years.

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That might not be the best example, but I know what you're saying. Yeah, it was wild. Yeah. It was a good book.

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It was a good book. But anyway, Theo of Golden, it's a very uplifting and sweet. So I would recommend I I do think you would enjoy listening to it.

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I will.

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And and you should.

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Okay, does a child die?

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Uh child dies.

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Oh, really? Mom.

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Not your mom's already read it. Oh. It it's something that I'm not gonna say that's it.

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Okay, in those. We will be spoiling a few episodes of Step by Step. Oh, Step-by-Step.

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Can you spoil something that's 30 years old?

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Step by step, Family Matters and uh Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Um Yeah. You can't. I appreciate a spoiler warning.

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Oh, yeah, spoiler warning.

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Yeah. I I wouldn't for that.

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Okay.

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I wouldn't care. No, you're right. It depends though. If it's 30 years old, if it's like what's 30 years old, that's this is the problem. I'm gonna say something that's that's like 60 years old. Okay. I was gonna say diehard, but diehard's like That's from the 80s, right? Yeah, it's like 40 years old now.

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Yeah, we're 40. I just turned I just turned. 43. Rob and I are the same age for five weeks every year.

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Mm-hmm.

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Happy birthday to you.

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Happy birthday to the sky. Happy birthday, yeah. Yeah, it's Leslie's birthday.

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I'll also tell you about what we did on my birthday. I feel like that's a fun mention. We were we were on vacation in northern Michigan, not upper peninsula, but the toppy of the mitten. And we took a ferry over to Mackinac Island on my birthday, and we ate at the Pink Pony Club, and I bought a mug there, and then we ate at Millie's on Maine, which I've seen people eating on the internet.

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Uh the Pink Pony Club. Interesting name.

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Well, I don't know my but it's much, much older than the song, which goes Pink Pony. I didn't know there was a I wanna keep on dancing. I thought you made that up. No, I was singing Pink Pony mug. I'm gonna keep on drinking from the pink pony.

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So there's an actual song called Pink Pony. Really? Who is it?

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I can't remember her name. Oh, it's a it's a pop song.

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Okay.

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It's br it's new in comparison to the actual Pink Pony Club.

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Is it about Mackinac Island?

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No, I don't think so.

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It's the the sweet smell of urea in the air.

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A lot of horse pee poop smell. Horse crab. Anyway, beautiful place to do it. We biked 12 miles. My family was mostly compliant and did what I wanted for my birthday. We rode to the tippy top of the island and we had a lot of fun. I I loved it. Yeah, so if you have ever, if you've not been to Mackinac Island, save up your $40 a ticket and get yourself round trip ferry rides.

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It was great. It exceeded my expectations.

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Yeah, it was it was really neat. A lot of neat geological formations and stuff like that.

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I went down a deep dive. I don't know.

Chasing The Make Em Say Uh Origin

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I I put this in here, I just put one line, make em say uh conversation. I don't know if I'm ready for this. So do you know the song Make Em Say Uh? Okay. So we're talking about Master P. An exorcism business. Mr. Cal. Okay. Anyways. No limit fan, cash money, all that stuff when that came out. I kind of like, meh. But I do I do like some some of those beats. Anyways, make them say all came out. No. That was in 96, I think. No, 96 uh that might have been 98. 97, 98. Do you you remember the the group next? You do. Okay. Stop now you dancing conicloops. Yeah. Yeah. Um that song's pretty tight. Uh-huh. We probably can't do that, can you? No, we cannot. Well, okay. But we've already done two. That'd be fun. So they did another song called um they did a song called Penetration for the Nothing to Lose album.

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Oh.

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You know who else was in Nothing to Lose?

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Who?

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Um one of the Bobs from uh Office Space. Who's in Surviving the Game, um beginly.

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Oh yeah.

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But anyways, back to so Naughty by Nature and Next did a song called Penetration on Nothing to Lose. And it goes, it has a Make'em Say Uh hook in it. And this is just one of the things I was doing on vacation, walking around the driveway, having a conversation with Claude, trying to figure out something that I forgot that I was trying to figure out 30 years ago. Because when Make Hem Say Uh came out of Master P, the one that everybody actually knew, the first I went out and bought the nothing to lose soundtrack. Or no, I'm sorry, Money Talks. I said nothing to lose. Wrong movie. Money Talks with Chris Stocker and Charlie Sheen. It has Barry White, My First, My Last, My Everything on it. You know I love that song. This is the back in the day where you, if you want, if you loved a song and you knew it was on a soundtrack, you just buy the whole soundtrack and hope you like the rest of it. So it had that song on it. I liked it. The next song. I thought everybody was singing make them say, uh, the next version, the penetration song, with Naughty by Nature. But so but they were always singing it wrong.

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Because it wasn't what they were singing.

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Because I was just like, that's not how it goes. Like I know that, but it's not how it goes. And then I heard the Master P one, I called up with the rest of the world, and I was like, oh, this is what everybody's singing. I was like, I wonder who did it first. Did somebody rip somebody off? Well I so I decided to uncover that continue the trail 30 years later uh while we were on vacation. And I started connection. Yeah. I started trying to figure out I'm with you who did it first. So they both came so next wrote it first, or next or whoever did that.

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Okay.

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But Master P hit the airwaves first, I believe.

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Okay.

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Neither of them invented it. It's like an old like bounce uh like um New Orleans hip hop back in like the 80s with um I can't remember, there was this this beat that's like the dragnet beat that down down. Yeah. This beat's been used through like 20 different raps. Everybody's sampled it from like little Wayne to like you know, Master P or anyways. I went down this rabbit hole, still cannot find who came up with make 'em say uh. But it's some sort of old school New Orleans dirty south rooted call and response of like some relic of old school hip hop. So I may do if I could get enough information, I'll make him say uh. Uh.

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I gotta do a whole ep on all the makeup seance.

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I don't know about a whole episode, but I if I if it could be I feel like we're close to having done a whole episode on it now. Yeah. What else is there to say? Look, I did all that off of one comment.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Wow, I can't wait to see what you do off of this paragraph.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

Oh, that's talk talk. I listened to I was gonna the talk talk album in uh Enlightened Rogues by the Almer Brothers. We're not gonna talk about those today. Started playing Boulder's Gate Bouldersgate 3. Nice with with uh Joshy Pants. Yes. And uh that's Josh for the uh for the Jeffries data sheet. Um Josh. Now there's gonna be two entries. We'll also show them up. Dude. Okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Up but anyway Oh, my friend Renee wanted to know if we were gonna go back through and uh fix the incorrect Jeffries data sheets entries. And I didn't answer her because obviously we're not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

No Renee Renee, what I what I'm gonna do. It's a very good question. I I thought about it It's too hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

We have to leave it alone.

SPEAKER_04 23:02

Yeah, number one, I enjoy mistakes. Right. Like one of my one of my saddest one of the things that breaks my heart about AI more than anything is just that I'm never gonna get to enjoy the the poor translations of like foreign instructions. Yeah. Although um it's kind of finding its way into images now. Like I I looked at a like a guitar rack with a bunch of backwards necks and stuff. Yeah. So stupid looking.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Well, I I my one of my biggest Chinese instructions regrets is when we bought Clark the um Chinese instructions regrets. Is when we bought the Chinese instructions regrets. Clark wanted like a space themed bedding.

SPEAKER_05 23:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

And so I got like a duvet cover off Amazon, and it was like it looks like a galaxy like nebulous clouds and all that stuff. He still has it. Oh yeah. That's why I remember it. Anyway, they there were instructions with this blanket, like instructions, and they referenced time travel on it. Do you remember that? Whoa, no. Like it was like instructions like this blanket will time travel you or something like that. It was like it'll time travel you. It wasn't even about time, it was just space. It was just a blanket, like a picture of space on a blanket.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

Yeah. We are going to run out of it.

SPEAKER_04 24:17

Let's go ahead and start.

Defining The Sitcom Bar Formula

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All right.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Alright, so what Leslie and I did, Leslie uh Well, let me just say this is a Father's Day episode.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

So Father's Day. I love a theme.

SPEAKER_04 24:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

We did a Mother's Day episode where we went through some TV moms and stuff like that. So so this is kind of a a companion episode to that. Now you may speak.

SPEAKER_04 24:36

We have a hard stop in about an hour. Well, an hour and seven minutes. Yep. We're gonna do it. We are. So let's get going quick. Talk about Master P and who next penetration? Is that even appropriate for a famous show? That should have gotten some adult family earmuffs, I'm pretty sure. Sorry, gang. Sorry. All right. Can you can you say what would you say? I okay. I'll talk. Yeah. How's that?

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Just tell us what we're doing.

SPEAKER_04 25:01

Okay. So I asked Leslie a few weeks ago, might be a couple months ago. I said, I want to do an episode about the step-by-step episode where Frank and Cody beat up a bar full of guys and save Dana and from anyways, we'll get there. And then I want to watch the Family Matters episode where Urkel uh transforms into Bruce Lee and defends Laura's honor in a bar. And then I want to watch the episode where Uncle Phil goes into a pool hall and hustles the hustler.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Don't give it away.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

Yeah, we will be spoiling these episodes.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

I I titled this episode in my notes the bar formula.

SPEAKER_04 25:46

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's what the 90s thought a bar is, is what big bang theory fans think nerds are. That's what I wrote in my notes. It's like if you walk into a bar, I meant to look up if Miller Boyette were teetobers. Because like it's like the second you walk into a bar, the entire bar is going to want to. They're not really gonna beat you up, but they're gonna like high school. Well, no, actually, Urkel got the crap kicked out of them. That's not even true. Yeah, they just immediately kill you. Everyone, everybody jumps in. It's like don't go into bars in the 90s. Don't go where anyways.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

No. Also, have you actually ever in your real life been to a bar that was like that nefarious as all the 90s bars?

SPEAKER_04 26:33

No. I'm sure there are bars where if I went in, depending on when and what I decided to say or where I might get shot.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

But not in a nineties bar, you would just get but they're not gonna like give me a wedgie first.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

No and then spin a bow staff around or a pole keeper for 17 minutes straight.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Well, then in the nineties, you couldn't go to a bar without running into somebody spinning a bow staff around.

SPEAKER_04 27:01

You couldn't go to the bar to a bar in the nineties without somebody getting kicked out of a window in slow motion.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

No, I know. Just very much You couldn't go to a bar in the nineties that didn't look like a TV set, also. Not sure why they couldn't film in a bar. An actual bar. Yeah. It's just like clearly three cardboard walls.

SPEAKER_04 27:22

I somebody, I don't remember who maybe it might have been Uncle Dan pointed this out, but the in the Dukes of Hazard, they have to have like at least three. No, it was my buddy Sean. Uh back in his brother Mike. He's like he was a big Dukes of Hazzard fan. He said they have to have at least three jumps in every episode or something. Something like that.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

I feel like Uncle Dan's.

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Maybe Uncle Dan said it too. I don't know. Uncle Dan, I'm so sorry. Uncle Dan, please write in.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Write in. You could just text us if you want to. We have our phone around.

SPEAKER_04 27:48

Come down.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Or maybe when we see you in a couple weeks, you could tell us.

SPEAKER_04 27:51

Why don't you come down to the country? City boy.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

I had something funny to say.

SPEAKER_04 27:57

I was gonna say Walker Texas Ranger. They always got kicked out of a window three times that episode. This follows a similar form, though. It does. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

I forgot. Sorry. If it comes back to me, I'll let you know. It's okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:07

So I said we should watch them. She said that would be a good Father's Day episode. Why don't you save it for that?

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 28:13

Um I said, she said, what order do you want to watch these in?

SPEAKER_02 28:18

I did say that. She did say that.

SPEAKER_04 28:19

I said, why don't we watch them from what I think will be the worst to what I think will be the best? I had seen all of these episodes, but the family met the family matters one.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

We ended up adding a bonus scene from another episode.

SPEAKER_04 28:34

Yes, we did.

unknown 28:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:35

To get the father involved. Poor Carl Winslow. Also becomes Bruce Lee.

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Looks like a different person with a Bruce Lee wig.

SPEAKER_04 28:42

It's a good look.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

It wasn't a bad look.

SPEAKER_04 28:44

Clean shaven, long hair, long black hair. Reginald Vell Johnson is long, straight Asian hair.

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Yeah, bad. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_04 28:52

He was on Just Three Boys with Tim and Eric and Zach Alphanakis. Did you ever see that?

SPEAKER_02 28:56

I have seen that.

SPEAKER_04 28:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

It's uh Was he wearing a Bruce Lee wig?

SPEAKER_04 29:00

He was not. But they were, basically. It's a that's a very wig-centric show. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

It's very much the whole thing of like, oh, this box of wigs fell into our lap. Let's make a show out about it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:16

I got a new filter for my camera. You want to do a sketch?

SPEAKER_02 29:20

Wholesale, wholesale run to the warehouse sale, box of wigs.

SPEAKER_04 29:24

So that's pretty much what happened in Paul Fiction Fiction with uh Jules. But um I I told Leslie that's watching that order. Would you say I got the order right?

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Well, you definitely got it right by saving the fresh prints episode for last. The other two were trash. So I could have gone either direction. I almost think the Family Matters was worse than step by step.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

Here's the thing about the Family Matters episode. I it I don't know why I enjoyed it more. Uh-huh. Um I I really like Steve. So the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

I really hate him.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

Yeah, that's fine. I I don't like him like I want to get him on a lunchbox. I just think that character, I think Jilliel White, he didn't do a good job with Bruce Lee, but he did a good job with Urkel for those who like Urkel. Like I was just watching the way he's like pouring that in. He's like, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

Yeah, well he maintained some of his Urkel mannerisms. Um even as Bruce Lee. In case you didn't catch that. Yes. Yeah. It's kind of the way he moves his body, is that way. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

Um But But let's go back to uh But the thing about this family the Family Guy Family Guy Family Matters episode were two completely independent plots. Kind of basically two verticals going at once. Where the step-by-step, at least they all kind of work together.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Like it was all like one Yeah, there was only one plot in that, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 30:54

No, there wasn't, yeah. There was one, yeah. Yeah, sorry, that's what I mean. It was one kind of cohesive plot line, at least. Um go ahead. Steph, so we did step-by-step first.

Step By Step Goes To Jake’s

SPEAKER_04 31:08

We did. Starring a whole host of people. Suzanne Summers, Patrick Duffy, Brandon Call as JT. So do you read Dana, what is her name? Dana My Two Dads.

SPEAKER_02 31:22

I don't remember. Her real name?

SPEAKER_04 31:24

Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

I gotta say that the 90s aesthetic in home decor and clothing is really back in a big way. So it was kind of funny to watch it.

SPEAKER_04 31:36

Oh. Um wasn't aware.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

In the original, in its original like the home alone house, the way it was decorated and stuff. Like that's a big Oh really? Yeah. So like the nineties is just kind of like it's like home, it's more homey, and there's some plaid and florals. There's more of a boulder.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

I feel like that was kind of a thing for a little while. I didn't notice that. Um Stacy Keenan is her name.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Okay, yeah. But I I did the first thing I wrote was I've never really liked Dana much, but I like her hair and her outfit.

SPEAKER_04 32:12

There you go, Dana. So she's not she's no longer an actress. She is uh she's a lawyer. She's a stay-at-home professor.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

Good for her.

SPEAKER_04 32:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

Um She's not a stay-at-home mom.

SPEAKER_04 32:24

She is, I mean, maybe she is now, I have no idea. Christopher Castile, he was in uh Beethoven, Charles.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

Who is he?

SPEAKER_04 32:32

He's Mark.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

Oh, the little dork with the glasses.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

Jeez, sorry, sorry, Chris.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Um I always thought he was the kid from My Girl, but he's not, is he?

SPEAKER_04 32:41

No, no, that's McCullough Calic.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

Oh, duh. Hey guys, I'm dumb.

SPEAKER_04 32:45

Welcome to our show. Josh Burn Brenn Brendan Lambert. You know, he you know what he has in common with uh with uh Family Matters? Um what was her name, what was her name? Rudy? No, not Rudy. No, sorry. That's Cosby. Sorry, guys. Um no, uh Judy. Maybe it was Judy.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Uh from Family Matters?

SPEAKER_04 33:04

Yes. Judge.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Oh, why was Judy?

SPEAKER_04 33:08

Jude okay, so Judy and I I'm gonna call her Judy. Sorry, right in if I'm wrong. Um I'd be so stupid. But go ahead. I am curious. All right, Josh and and then Brent Brendan. They were both just kind of deleted.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Like the little kids?

SPEAKER_04 33:23

Yeah, they just like they don't they don't address it. They just they were just nodding the show. They just go into the room one day and they're not there anymore.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

They never come out.

SPEAKER_04 33:31

Yeah, we should do an episode about those. There's uh it's called like the Chuck Cunningham effect or something because like Richie Cunningham's older brother in Happy Days was like one of the first like big ones to do it where they're just like this character's not doing anything. What what do you mean? What character? Yeah, what Chuck?

SPEAKER_02 33:48

What that is interesting. It's kind of creeping me out a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 33:52

It's such a sloppy, weird thing that they did.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

It is like why don't they just like die or go to boarding schools?

SPEAKER_04 33:58

Or like Harriet Winslow. There's been two Aunt Vibs, there's been two Harry Winslows, you know. That's a little more understandable. You know, I get that.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

But they didn't actually delete the character.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Yeah, they don't just pretend they never happened. Sasha Mitchell or Cody kind of just disappeared, too. He's like honestly, I know this is cheesy, but I love uh I love a Cody. Yeah, he didn't really tell us about him. It really would like when he left the show, the show for anything it had, it lost it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:30

And well, I was thinking about like the scenes in that episode. Pretty much he bridged every transition.

SPEAKER_04 34:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:37

In all the scenes in that show we watched last night.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

Yeah.

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In this episode.

SPEAKER_04 34:41

I saw all these episodes like when they came out.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

Were they on TGIF?

SPEAKER_04 34:46

Yes. Step by Step in Family Matters definitely was Fresh Prince was not.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

No, it was like a prime time.

SPEAKER_04 34:52

But as much as I know you just thought that was the dumbest thing, and of course it was. Like we have so much to make fun of in these fight scenes. There was something about watching a fight scene in a sitcom when you're a kid that is just like, whoa, I did not know this was gonna be in this week's episode. This is awesome. And it was just like, even though it was dumb, and it's just you're just like totally along for the ride. Well, yes, this is great.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

I think that's the same feeling I had when I would watch Full House and Stephanie's bad acting friend Gia would be on it. We've talked about Gia before. That's the feeling I had, like, oh, it's a Gia episode.

SPEAKER_04 35:27

And I'm thinking, oh, it's a Gia episode. Not anymore, though.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

We gotta look up Gia on the Jeffries data sheet.

SPEAKER_04 35:36

It's on there now. No, you know, the I gotta say, the step-by-step cast has aged pretty well. They all look pretty good. Um, except for Suzanne Summers. I gotta say, Suzanne Summers was just painful and cringy as the whole frame game Frank Bobank thing that went on for like 45 minutes. I did like the callback later. She's like, Oh, you mean Frank Bobank? Like when Dana, she's she has a pretty good comedia timing, I gotta say. But uh Brandon Call was like um Brandon Call, I'd name dropped Brandon Call in conversations with strangers for many years, like almost the same way that Mike and I talk about um Jonathan Brandis. Like we talk about Jonathan Brandis like we're two of the biggest Brandis heads that ever lived. But Brandon Call, because you know he was in uh Baywatch. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

So I got a question about these sitcoms. Why do all sitcom houses have the same floor floor plan? Is that just for filming?

SPEAKER_04 36:34

I wonder how much of this was on the same set.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

Yeah. The front door, same you walk in the front door, the stairs are on the left, you walk through the family room into the kitchen. Every house is the same. Period. And yeah, it's probably all in the same set. And then they probably just spun those set pieces around and then they were in the bar.

SPEAKER_04 36:57

Probably. With the exact same, with like like I swear, it's really hard to get information. But there were two. Oh, go ahead. No, no, you go ahead. No, no.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

I won't forget now.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

Are you sure?

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:09

Alright.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

It won't even be funny now, but I'll still be saying it.

SPEAKER_04 37:12

I'm getting ready to muster a courtesy laugh. I love you.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

Go ahead and finish your thought.

SPEAKER_04 37:18

Like the guys, the the guys in the speaking of reusing things, I s I I promise there were two two dudes who who were in building. The stunt doubles. Yeah. Yeah. Um one of the stunt doubles, the guy who I thought was Arlo Pryne, who's a mix of what John Pryne and Arlo Guthrie. I I thought he was playing two I was wrong. Two guys with two blonde guys with long hair.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

Yeah, I didn't actually think that that guy was Arlo Pine.

SPEAKER_04 37:42

But that guy played, he was the stunt double for Michael Keaton and the Batman movies.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Oh, good. That's good to know. I said the funny thing I wanted to say. Everybody get ready. I'm ready. Jeffrey, you ready? Ready to timestamp this. Um I said that those bars look like set pieces. The bar the bar in the Star Trek episode that we watched was is far more believable that they were on a spaceship at a bar than these people in a Earth bar in the 1990s.

SPEAKER_04 38:18

Unfortunately. That's incredibly so that's incredibly profound profound. And you're you're 100% right. Unfortunately, you you have to have such a random exposure to pop culture throughout like you have to be to get that joke.

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Well, you I'm just talking to you. We're just standing in line.

SPEAKER_04 38:38

No, no, I'm not criticizing you. I'm just saying, like, I'm maybe the only person in the world who might get that joke.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

I don't know. A lot of our friends have watched both Star Trek and 90s sitcoms. We're of an age.

SPEAKER_04 38:51

But this very specific. It's very specific bar fights. Yeah. These very specific shows.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

All right. All right. Get into it. Get into it. So Dana wants to go to a concert.

SPEAKER_04 39:01

You're really getting the hang of this thing, aren't they?

SPEAKER_02 39:03

At Jake's bar. Or Jake's at Jake's. And her mom's like, sure, I'm an idiot. And then she finds out, then the mom finds out from the dad, Patrick, Patrick D, that um Patrick Magic D. That um D for Dallas. D for Dallas. D for Dream.

SPEAKER_04 39:21

He and Cody D for Dream. He and Sacha Mitchell were on Dallas together. He played his nephew in step by step and in Dallas.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

I I want laughs for D for Dream.

SPEAKER_04 39:29

D for Dream?

SPEAKER_02 39:30

Because of Dallas. Isn't that how isn't that how it ends?

SPEAKER_04 39:33

Way to spoil it.

SPEAKER_02 39:35

Dallas spoilers behind. Look in your rear view mirror for the spoiler. Anyway. And he tells Suzanne Summers that if she was his daughter, he would not let her go to Jake's because it's a bad place. I think that's when I was like, wait, is this a new? Like it was first season.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

Yeah. It was like, um, which episode?

SPEAKER_02 39:56

I don't know. It's pretty early though. So then Suzanne Summers eight, season one episode. Reason can't bring herself to tell her daughter she can't go.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

But then she does eventually tell her she can't go. Meanwhile, I forgot how much I loved Karen, the sister. She was great.

SPEAKER_04 40:14

I liked her. I I I wrote down in my notes somewhere that Better than I remembered. That that the majority of the kids on the show were actually they've worked with what they had. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

You know, like it was their cringy parents that needed to be That and just the writing was just terrible. Um Yeah, so anyway, so she so I forgot how little and young all they they used to be because in my my brain I'm remembering like Al as a teenager.

SPEAKER_05 40:42

Thinking they looked old.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

Yeah. Yeah, and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're so young.

SPEAKER_05 40:47

Um It's a weird thing.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

So they're all in at one scene, they're all in the kitchen getting breakfast, and there's like eight people in the kitchen. And I said there's never been a kitchen in the history of families as functional as this one with all of them present at one time. Because we the two of us can't be in the kitchen without bumping into each other and causing a scene. And I'm like, this is so fake. This is TV.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

It's just this little setup for like how many jokes can we get between all these kids before we and the two random uh like the is it like the grandma and the redheaded friend?

SPEAKER_02 41:20

Like, why are they even there?

SPEAKER_04 41:21

I don't remember what their role was.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Why are they even there?

SPEAKER_04 41:24

I I I don't think they last.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

And the redheaded hair is braided into these like Star Wars braids. It was crazy. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_04 41:34

I I recognize that actress.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

I can't remember what else she was in, but um so she goes, so she sneaks out.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Dana, that is.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

Dana sneaks out to go see Arlo Prime. And um she gets to Jake's. First of all, Jake's looks like a stable. It literally looks like there's hay outside on the ground.

SPEAKER_04 41:54

Yeah. And there might have been.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Like they just finished filming a manger scene there. That's all I could think of. She goes in and like the first thing that happens Did Jackie Daytona work there? I can't remember who seemed to definitely was an owner for sure.

SPEAKER_04 42:05

Took place in Amazon, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

It would be easy to burn that place down. Jackie Daytona. Um, but the first thing that happens is some bar patron comes up to them as they're walking in, he's like, mm-hmm, like gets right up in their face and immediately.

SPEAKER_04 42:21

No, no, psycho's late. I'm sorry. I'm jumping out on psycho. Sorry, guys.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

And so they get in there and it's like not a it's just like they're uncomfortable. So like she didn't actually know she was doing anything bad, I believe, in Dana. I mean she knew she was sneaking out, but she didn't realize that it was a bad place.

SPEAKER_04 42:36

Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, she's got a good head on her shoulder.

SPEAKER_02 42:39

She's just except then her friend leaves her. Don't leave your friends, guys.

SPEAKER_04 42:45

Yeah. It's pretty judgmental.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Just make them go with you. It's not safe.

SPEAKER_04 42:49

Yeah. There's lessons to be learned here.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Mm-hmm. How does Sasha Mitchell find out that he needs to go see?

SPEAKER_04 42:55

He's talking to uh JT Brandon Call. To Brandon Call. He's talking to Brandon Call and uh, I think.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:02

And he runs out.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

He's like, oh man, she can't be at Jay. This is a turtle bus.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

What is that right? He's a mix between he's a oh man. Keep talking. I'll look it up because I think you would agree.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

So Karen also finds out. Karen is just so dumb that she basically outs Dana like the very first moment that she sees her mom and dad. And then they so then they go as well.

SPEAKER_04 43:30

There were some kind of funny jokes every now and then.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Did she go to J to Jake's? And she was like, I'm not gonna tell you. And they're like, Well, you're not going to the movie. She was like, She went to Jake's.

SPEAKER_05 43:40

She did. She did go.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

Um but so then so I want to call him Sasha Baron Cohen.

SPEAKER_04 43:48

Sasha Mitchell.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Cody shows up to save the day, to save Dana, but after she's getting tossed around accosted, sure, by Psycho. Psycho and all his buddies, because she doesn't want to dance with him. It doesn't look like the place where a person like Arlo Pine might be performing.

SPEAKER_04 44:09

And they sort of joked, like, oh, I thought this was actually kind of funny. They said, well, it's a he's making a comeback.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:14

So like, uh, it's a little kind of joke for the music industry. Sure. Fine. Good job, guys. Good job, Miller Boyette.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

So he starts so Cody apparently has a lot of fighting skills.

SPEAKER_04 44:27

Yeah, so he was a legit uh Taekwondo champion. Like he was actually in um Hey, there's a movie called uh Kickboxer starring Jean-Claude Van Damme. I don't suppose you've seen it.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

No, you don't say that. You just say I'm going to talk about that movie.

SPEAKER_04 44:42

I'm gonna talk about um uh movie called You can say, let me know if you've seen it. Let me know if you've seen it.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

Cool. I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_04 44:48

Oh. There were several of them. He was in the ones after Jean-Claude Van Damme. So I got into a little bit of trouble. He got he got deleted because he was some domestic abuse scandals. It's a little up in the air as to whether or not he was actually he was accused of it and he was sentenced to three years probation.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

It's been my experience uh in my workplace and being alive and listening to certain types of podcasts that if someone's accusing you of something, it's eventually gonna come out that you probably did do it.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

Yeah, but we're talking about Sasha Mitchell here, not only Sasha Mitchell was Cody. Sasha Mitchell was the perfect blend of Bill and Ted, Uncle Rico, and Reverend Jim from Taxi.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Oh, that's great. Oh, it's time to check the heat.

SPEAKER_04 45:44

No, I I I but I just remember I just remember hearing, oh, he beat his wife. Kickboxer beat his wife, and like and he maybe did.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

But I mean, that is sometimes I dug into it a little bit. The story You're too far from the microphone. You can't tell a story when you're behind the camera. Uh hold on, you can just wait. So our just so you guys want to, in case you want to know what Rob's doing, our camera's been overheating and dying, so we set a timer for halfway through to try to help with that. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

So Sasha Mitchell. Yeah. Just real quick, I don't have I don't know much. I'm not defending him. I'm not saying I'm just saying I learned that there was a little bit more to he definitely beat his wife. Apparently, she was a drug addict, and there were she was she had was putting the kids in danger, and he got a things got physical at a time, and he was accused of something. That's all I know. Okay. And I don't even know that. But I didn't know that before.

SPEAKER_02 46:43

That's not what we're here for. So anyway, the dad and the mom and the dad find out that she's at the bar. So they get there and he's already fighting people off with these ridiculous skills. But they're also just standing there letting him.

SPEAKER_04 46:57

Yeah. Oh, it's the classic. I mean, that's that's a tale of all this time. One at a time fight. Yeah. Uh really slow. You said you said this is going really slowly.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

Very slow fight scene.

SPEAKER_04 47:08

It was pretty slow.

SPEAKER_02 47:10

All of them were.

SPEAKER_04 47:11

Yes. You mean including Fabio? Bruce Lee's ones as well. Um, so one of the coolest pool table fight scenes I've ever seen is We Own the Night, which is an Indonesian film with uh the guys from The Raid.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 47:24

Super gory. I almost made you watch it, but I thought you might get mad at me.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

Yeah, probably would.

SPEAKER_04 47:28

Um kind of like when I made you watch the Robocop uh Peter Weller execution scene at like seven in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Are you up? Great, I have something for you.

SPEAKER_04 47:38

But there's another good fight scene uh from Cool Runnings. I always thought that was a pretty good right in the middle good scene. I think Cool Runnings. Yeah, just a good fun bar fight. Yeah. Remember that?

SPEAKER_02 47:48

That was a good, just a nice But nothing nothing could top. Anyway, in my opinion, nothing could top Patrick Duffy and Sasha Mitchell's double punch.

SPEAKER_04 47:57

Oh, that I wrote the double punch. The double punch. The double punch there. Whoa, or or they both punched at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

I did like Patrick Duffy's headbutt, though.

SPEAKER_04 48:06

There were basically two Indiana Jones um uh braiders scenes where this is the sword, the sword guy doing his thing, and then Patrick Duffy's just like boom, headbutts the guy. You know, like there's a lot of that kind of stuff. Um I sense trouble. Honestly, Cody, I probably laughed at Cody the most.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

He just had a lot of He was pretty decent.

SPEAKER_04 48:30

He saved He's like piece of cake.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:33

He's like, oh, you know how to do it. He's like, oh no, I just want a piece of cake.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

I liked it when they were like, where did you learn those fight moves? And he's like, I don't know. I'm gonna go check my diary.

SPEAKER_04 48:43

That's why I wrote it about to be a re Reverend Jim when he just goes and plays the piano.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

Like play that piano. Um and then of course, this typical sitcom cheesy resolution where Dana and Patrick have a heart to heart with the music. It's sickening. I hated it. I could hardly watch it. It's so stupid. And then he shoves his hand in a big melted container of ice cream, and I was just like, ugh.

SPEAKER_04 49:16

That was the grossest ice cream. Like that. I wrote gross the ice cream ending. It's the creemiest ice cream ever. It would have like food board illnesses in it.

unknown 49:24

Oh gross.

SPEAKER_04 49:25

I did I did think a joke that legitimately made me laugh out loud was when Dana goes, because you know, Dana and Cody have a little bit of a she hates Dana's a hater. Yeah. Like that's that's her thing. Um she definitely hates Cody. Yeah. And so he but she she's like, you know, Cody, I really appreciate you coming and coming and saving me. He's like, yeah, you wouldn't have to be. You would have done the same for me.

SPEAKER_02 49:51

She's just like, okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:54

You would have done the same for me. I don't know. Uh uh I'm I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 49:57

That was funny.

SPEAKER_03 49:58

All right. I'm gonna go. All right, should we move on to Family Matters?

SPEAKER_02 50:02

Anything else you didn't say? Uh I wrote, Did we think this was cool? And you said yes, which you kind of already addressed, like, ooh, this episode's got a fight in it.

SPEAKER_04 50:11

Oh, when I was a kid. Yeah. Oh gosh, I loved this. It was so bad, I can't remember ever thinking like I'm meant to look up who played the this theme song, the guitar and the sax. I I like what do you think about this? Do we want to take a quick brief moment and talk about theme songs? And we'll segue into Granny's Eyes.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Oh, yeah. I referenced uh Granny's Eyes.

SPEAKER_04 50:32

I kind of like all these theme songs. Yeah. Step by step is so cheesy, but it's Stephen, especially at the the the the outro with the instrumental. You know I'm sucker for instrumental.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

Yeah, you are.

SPEAKER_04 50:44

Um that song that was I love the way theme songs kind of change over time. Like I know it was different. Like even the Fresh Prince theme song was longer, you know.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

Oh, the original song, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:55

They changed it. We talked about it with different strokes. I think there were like three or four iterations of it.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

I didn't know that they ever used the full version of a TV show though for Fresh Prince.

SPEAKER_04 51:05

Um it's primps.

SPEAKER_02 51:07

That's why I corrected myself.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

Oh, thank you. Uh do you have a preference between what do you think is the what's what do you have what's the best theme song?

SPEAKER_02 51:15

Fresh Prince by a landslide.

SPEAKER_04 51:17

I mean, I feel like it's gotta be. But I feel like I'm still gonna say family matters.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Can I say full house though?

SPEAKER_04 51:25

Where did that go? Danny Taylor just swooped out of nowhere. Okay. Must have been an angel. Uh Cody, uh, Cody versus Steve.

SPEAKER_02 51:35

Steve.

SPEAKER_04 51:36

Really?

SPEAKER_02 51:37

Yeah, beat his wife.

SPEAKER_04 51:39

Oh, that's Sacha Mitchell. Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

We don't know. Steve played Aladdin in her Disney dream.

unknown 51:48

What?

SPEAKER_02 51:49

Did you not watch this?

SPEAKER_04 51:50

Oh no, I must not. Was he eating? I did always like him eating. I like Steve. I like Waldi Faldo, I like Steve, I like Cody.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

I like the I did like the Amelia Bedelia type characters.

SPEAKER_04 52:00

You know, the ones that are just like there for a whole different type of joke.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:04

You know, just like, let's get these out of the way for the people who like this.

SPEAKER_02 52:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:07

Okay.

Family Matters And Bruce Lee Urkel

SPEAKER_02 52:08

All right, family matters.

SPEAKER_04 52:09

Yes. Green's ice.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

It for some reason it opens on out of nowhere, as if we're supposed to know what's going on. Laura and Steve are going into a bar for at they're at the wrong location for a debate. That was the only thing I could catch.

SPEAKER_04 52:25

I believe so, yes.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

And I said, why exactly are they there?

SPEAKER_04 52:29

They go in and immediately get we had to check and see if like maybe we started in the middle of the street.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

Yes, we paused it to see it. We were at the beginning and there was still like twenty-some minutes left. And they immediately get into it with some patrons, some bargoers. And the guy pours a beer down his pants, pours a beer down Steve's pants.

SPEAKER_05 52:48

Is that what passes for entertainment around here?

SPEAKER_02 52:53

Don't well it makes my skin crawl. Why would you? I hate it.

SPEAKER_04 52:58

I wish that he just like did the the like we're actually gonna make Jar Jar Banks play Urkel this time.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

Yeah. Could we uh you know how at the end we do covers? Could we do like a good like covers of of actors? Like Jar Jar Banks could step into the room.

SPEAKER_06 53:11

Steve Urkel sings freight train.

SPEAKER_02 53:13

No, I mean sure. That's what I meant. Is that what you meant? So then he ends up then the then they insult Laura, call her a bimbo. Do people actually use those words?

SPEAKER_04 53:26

Not in that bar. They use different words.

SPEAKER_02 53:29

They used bimbo in that bar.

SPEAKER_04 53:30

Well, I'm just saying. Real life.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

In real nineties bars.

SPEAKER_04 53:34

You know, real nineties bars.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Uh and wait, where were we which bar were we waiting for um Sister Mary Clarence to show up? There was a Whoopi Goldberg reference in there somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 53:46

Oh. Uh I wrote that one of the patrons looked like Whoopi Goldberg.

SPEAKER_02 53:52

I thought you said something about like Sister Axe.

SPEAKER_04 53:54

No, I will say that no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh no. I just thought that woman looked like Whoopi Goldberg.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Yeah, yeah. No, but when Steve was standing like this, I wrote that that it's it's it's not very effective. It's not a good ready position. Yeah. Not very vigilant to stand with your arms crossed and your hands tucked tightly into your hands. Like Mary Catherine Gallagher. Oh.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Oh, I just got two things mixed into one thing.

SPEAKER_04 54:18

But but yeah, when he's doing this, because yeah, don't when don't cross your arms like that.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

So then he gets the crap beat out of him. Yeah. He gets the crap beat out of him.

SPEAKER_04 54:28

Yeah, like he's wearing a neck brace.

SPEAKER_02 54:29

He's got Yeah, he comes in, he's got crutches, I mean a cast. Pretty serious offense there.

SPEAKER_04 54:35

Like like Carl should have been a little bit more on the ball there. Carl didn't even recognize him.

SPEAKER_02 54:41

Carl wasn't even a part of this episode, really, as far as the bar scene.

SPEAKER_04 54:46

Oh, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. There were two completely different episodes. Yeah, they were different plots within the episode.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

I did forget that I thought Eddie was really cute. Um, they play Pass the Nerd. Is that a popular game in bars? Hey, comment below if you're a bar patron and you've ever played Past the Nerd. Because I haven't, but I've you know maybe I've never seen it. Maybe I've been going to the wrong bars.

SPEAKER_04 55:09

Yeah, I would say. I would say you haven't been going to the right ones if you've never seen that.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

Pass the nerd. And the music that they play, this 90s electric guitar.

SPEAKER_04 55:18

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

Casio keyboard crap. Oh, it's I hate it. I I really don't like it.

SPEAKER_04 55:24

Yeah, I mean I know what you mean. Uh I like it for probably the reasons you hate it. I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_02 55:30

I had a I had a friend who um Dra Darius McQuery, by the way, is Eddie.

SPEAKER_04 55:34

Eddie, he's cute. Yeah, he's a good looking guy.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

Um I had a friend whose mom would make us flexible. We were not allowed to stay up late unless it was Friday, like TGI Friday, and the second that the credits rolled at 10 o'clock, what was this last show?

SPEAKER_04 55:51

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

She would make us go to bed.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

So it they they changed it up a lot.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

So I feel like I have this bad tie from the sitcom music to like being mad that I'm spending the night with a friend and they're making me go to bed.

SPEAKER_05 56:05

That's pretty interesting. Mm-hmm. Huh.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Uh so yeah, the side the side plot of the bar Family Matters bar stuff is that Eddie is just blowing his dad off. And so then he takes Waldo to the game instead of Eddie. The dad does.

SPEAKER_04 56:22

The girls' game where you got Scottie Pippen gave him the game ball over time one twenty one twenty-one.

SPEAKER_06 56:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

That was a heck of an error. Congratulations to the New York Knicks. That's who they played in this episode. So they would have probably been playing Ewing, probably John Stockton. Probably. Oakley. Definitely. Mason.

SPEAKER_02 56:39

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. I love sports. As you know. Uh Laura's actually also pretty cute.

SPEAKER_03 56:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:47

Family room, same floor plan. Walk in, staircase on the left, couch in the middle, walk through to the kitchen.

SPEAKER_04 56:52

Laura looked like she was about to make baguettes at one point. Or smoke like a really long plastic cigarette. She had like a French beret with a few.

SPEAKER_02 57:00

Oh yes, her outlook.

SPEAKER_04 57:02

Suspender things.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:04

I mean, it was a good look.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

It was a nineties. It was pretty grilled nineties.

SPEAKER_04 57:08

Kind of like made safe hip hopy.

SPEAKER_02 57:11

French TLC kind of Safe hip hop. French TLC, same thing.

SPEAKER_06 57:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:17

Um So here's my here's my question about the whole family matters. It's just a regular, everyday people sitcom, right? But there's a transformation chamber that we're all just supposed to believe.

SPEAKER_04 57:31

It's like a little bit of Oh, you well, honey, we've already been introduced to this through Stefan.

SPEAKER_02 57:36

I know that, but I have a real hang-up with it. We're all just supposed to like go along with this.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

I think we were.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

Okay. So he gets in it.

SPEAKER_04 57:48

You know what the last episode of the series is he stays to. Steve goes to space and basically like saves the world. And then like Wow. Yeah, they like jumped. Jumped. They took the shark to space.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

They wrote it to space.

SPEAKER_04 58:01

They wrote a shark to space.

SPEAKER_02 58:03

They jumped it started.

SPEAKER_04 58:05

No, it's it's so stupid. I totally agree.

SPEAKER_02 58:07

But we're I just I'm just like, why do you have to have this? Is that the only way that you can become Stefan?

SPEAKER_04 58:13

I think they wanted to have these weird moments with Laura and Steve where they somehow could be. Well, they were because she's even like a Stephon. Oh, are you right?

SPEAKER_02 58:20

Are you gonna become back to Stefan? What a shallow jerk you must be, Laura. They're the same person.

SPEAKER_04 58:26

Laura was never that nice to Steve.

SPEAKER_02 58:28

No. He didn't deserve her, but I don't know why she would even have wanted him. He was awful. Sorry. Jaleel White, you're not awful. I hated Steve Urkel. Okay, so he decides he's gonna get retribution against the bar people for insulting. And in order to do that, he's decided to use his transformation chamber to turn him into Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee. And so I was like thinking you meant the real Bruce Lee. So that's why I clarified.

SPEAKER_04 59:00

So did you think like Bruce Lee was actually gonna like they were gonna get like an actor that looked like him?

SPEAKER_02 59:05

I didn't know he was dead.

SPEAKER_04 59:06

Oh, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

Did he die in the 70s though? Okay. That came back to me. So I I wasn't really sure what to expect. And then you said, no, no, it's Steve Urkel as Bruce Lee. And it was just stupid.

SPEAKER_04 59:25

Ridiculous. I wrote down in my notes that that I've seen a lot of Bruce Lee episodes. He definitely sounded like he spoke Chinese, but he could say his R's and B.

SPEAKER_00 59:39

It was like kind of racist.

SPEAKER_04 59:43

I mean whatever. I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'm just saying like. I just like wow.

SPEAKER_02 59:50

Like the way that the way that he was imitating.

SPEAKER_03 59:55

A little harder in a way.

SPEAKER_02 59:56

They were doing some really stereotypical things that I don't even really want to say.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:02

I think Carl started doing it. And they we watched the I'm no I'm jumping around here, that's what I do. But we I said there's another episode with Carl where they both go in the transformation chamber and come out Bruce Lee, and they're both talking like that. You should watch it. It's really stupid, but you should watch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:23

Yeah. I said Wesley agrees.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:25

I said, is anything ever even really happening? Like if you zoom out from this sitcom nonsense, what's happened? Like there's no plot line really. Like it's just like a gimmick.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:40

It's really dumb. It's not good to be able to be bad. It's it's just odd. I mean, I'm glad I watched it. I'm sure it was foreign.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:48

Talk about the stunt double.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:50

I yeah. There's a slow motion scene where Steve, Bruce Lee, or whatever, flips this guy. And it's they do it in slow motion again. But it's just clearly not Steve. Like the stunt double is just like this jacked up.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:06

He's about 25% more muscular, which I mean is noticeable because Steve has nice.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:11

Yeah, he's not what you'd call a mini hunk, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

For sure. He's 5'11.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:16

And then they got the other one where he's on the uh doing like basic. I know you haven't seen Jim Kata, so I'm not even gonna ask you. It was a gymnastics fighting.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

Of all things, I have seen that. JK have not.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:30

I think we should watch Gym Kata sometimes. Sometime.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:33

GYM, like gymnasium.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:34

Uh yes, there's a basically this uh government uh program. They want to get a gym a gymnast to be an assassin.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:42

Government.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:43

So they get a gold medal gymnast to be good. It's good. Really good. But anyways, it was like a gym cottage type scene where he's doing uh what do you call that? A trapeze, not trapeze, but basically the same kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:57

Like the rings or the bar, yeah, the parallel bar. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:01

Yeah. Just uneven bars. Yeah, we're we're bouncing back between these two episodes. The substitute sun, and I don't I don't what I don't remember what the other one was, but also that episode was called the substitute sun.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:14

But most of the episode and that and that was a reference to Waldo stepping into Eddie's shoes.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:19

I completely forgot about the whole basketball Eddie thing. I all remember.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:23

Most of the episode was really just about Urkel fighting.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:26

So they kind of did their job to the kid. To the kid watching this? Me?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:31

I mean, dude, I was all about that episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

But why did they title it The Substitute Sun? Because that was not the that wasn't a draw. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:40

It's very dumb. I'm I'm I'm on board with that.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

And then, yeah. So then and then tell us what's the brief background of how Carl Winslow becomes Bruce Lee as well.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:48

They I we didn't watch the whole episode, but basically I think like they they're in a Carl's a cop. Do you know Harriet's a cop too?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:55

No, I hadn't.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:56

Or she was, or something like that. Yeah. Anyways. Um Harriet's I liked Harriet and the grandma? They're pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

But that's what I I think I wrote What is even happening? Because they were on the show for literally two seconds.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:09

Anyways. They were gonna bust uh some criminals. The criminals took tied them all up and put the all the stuff was in there. Like the evidence, like Steve's transformation chamber was because Carl was trying to get it out of there.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

I wrote this was so good they had to bring it back for another episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:28

It worked. We should move on.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

Alright.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

That's me saying that. You know why? Because we gotta stop.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

Well, there was a little bit of choreography in the episode with Carl and Bruce Lee.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:38

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:39

Like like they like all dance together a little a little bad style.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

Um, and I said Or was that beat it? Or beat it, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:50

But the but the but I just have to say the final guy that he kills, he throws him on a mattress.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:58

A soft landing.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:00

There's a whole big thing about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

And some boxes full of styrofoam peanuts fall on him, and then he's not moving.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:07

Yeah. He's sleeping, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:10

He's in bed.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:11

So that kick is just straight up ripped out of Enner the Dragon, where Bruce Lee sets up and just blasts him with a side thrust.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:19

Um But it was cooler when Bruce Lee was doing it.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:21

It was a little cooler. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:22

There's something about it. Something about it. He didn't get into a transformation chamber first. He did not. Cool. All right. So all that just we should move on. Yeah, all that to lead up to the fresh prince.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

I mean, of course I've always loved it Oh, can I just say one random thing?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:38

Uh the person who casted Eddie for Carl's son must have also cast casted Keith from 24.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

As Allstate's son. Keith from 24 does not look like either of Allstate's.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:54

Maybe Reginald Vell Johnson was supposed to be the senator. And then Keith was already in place.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:00

Yeah, Eddie should have been Allstate's son. That's what it was. We figured it out. Unraveling TV's mysteries.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:07

Keep talking because I feel like I need to look up Allstate's name.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:10

Uh, who cares? Okay, so all that all that preamble of Family Matters and Step by Step, all it really did was make a a show that I loved just look like an Oscar Emmy award-winning TV show because it's so much better

Fresh Prince Pool Hall Payback

SPEAKER_02 1:05:29

than those other two shows. Fresh Prince. Uh the writing is better, the acting is better. Thank you. Thank you, Dennis, for your service to our insurance company. We don't even use All State. No, we don't have State Farm.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:42

Um, we should really consider switching.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:45

But I love Fresh Prince, and I just appreciate it all the more after having watched that other crap beforehand.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:53

Fresh Prince was like I think I laughed more in the first three minutes than you did a That I did of the entire of the last two shows completely.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Two and a half episodes that we watched. I love Hillary. So Hillary is the Cody or the Waldo of the Fresh Prince.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:12

I love the formulas are just like boilerplate.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:15

Yeah, good. Yeah. But they just made it so much better. Jeffrey, I forgot how amazing he is.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:20

Joseph Marcel, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:22

Uncle Phil is probably one of my favorite TV dads of all time. Period.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

He's amazing. Um I so he's so good in this.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Carlton's joke when he's like setting this girl like he's getting all romantic and he's like, An adjustable multivitamin. Oh, so great.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:42

And he puts on and he puts on Christopher Cross sailing, which is like one of the biggest yacht rock ballads of all time. And it's just so great.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:52

Well when he's wearing like his, you know, his typical like were his sleeves long. Oh yeah. He'll be sweater and over his shoulders, and they were like, first I thought it was stupid, but I'm like, I kind of like that look. I kind of and they're just they're just all so great.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:07

Um what's her face? Uh Tatiana Ali. She wasn't actually, she wasn't in much of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:11

She wasn't in much of it, but she was cute too. So basically, in this episode, the mom leaves. Viving.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:20

Jazz wasn't in this.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

Aunt Viv.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:22

The first one. We're finally back to Aunt Viv.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:25

We're back. We died.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:28

We really gotta figure out this camera thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:29

We died, Rob tried to kiss my lips, but we came back to life.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:32

She woke up. I was like, it woke me up.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:34

Yeah. So anyway, the mom goes out of town.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:37

My eyes looked wonderful, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:38

Aunt Viv goes out of town. I love how we refer to them as Aunt Viv and Uncle Phil, even though the only person who actually calls them that is Will.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:46

Except for uh Lomax uh Fred Lomax Jr. calls he calls him Uncle Phil. In the pool scenes. Zach, you know who he was?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:55

Who?

SPEAKER_04 1:07:55

He's the security guard from all from the office.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:00

Really? Yeah. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:01

Yeah, he's been he was uh he was in a ton of shows. He's pretty good he's been around the he was in like Moesha and Martin, and he was in all sorts of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:10

So the mom leaves, Aunt Viv leaves town, and then he she was gonna leave I don't even know if you caught this, but she was gonna leave Jeffrey in charge. And then Hillary's like, I wanna be the I wanna run the household. And before she there even finished with that conversation, Jeffrey is leaving with his bags. Did you notice that? Oh, that's so good, though. He's like piecing right out. Like he's not even waiting for her to say, yes, you can run the household.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:33

Because she's like, someday, or one of one of my one of my friends will have oh gosh, what did she say? Something about my butler. She's like, I hope it's no one I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:43

That's what he says when he's walking out.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:45

Okay. I didn't, I didn't I didn't catch that. That's that's great. Jeffrey was really good. Jeffrey was such a gangster. Do you remember the episode where he thinks he wins the lottery? Oh did you ever see that one? Oh, that's hard to watch.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:57

That's that's like a why, why, why doesn't he love me, man? episode all that.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:01

Yeah, for different reasons. Yeah, but that's like a Michael Scott type awkward type level of Oh my gosh, why'd they do that to me? Okay, because we got uh We got 22 minutes. I I'm I'm I'm I'm real about this. You listen made me promise we would keep this stop at 8 30, we're gonna.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:19

Okay. So anyway, basically he's told Will is told under no circumstances are you to A, take the car and B, go to a pool hall. And he immediately does both things.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:31

And he's got two devils on his shoulder.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:33

Yeah. At one point, Hillary is wearing an outfit that looks like if a power suit was also a wetsuit, that blue outfit she had on, like it was made out of neoprene, sort of. Um all right, and so he gets so Will goes down there and gets like he's obviously getting set up to be hustled, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:54

I'm sorry. I'm going back in time here, but there's just some jokes where the uh in the beginning, the like the the reverse haircut, he's like, Will, why do you have to give it Uncle Phil's like, why do you have to get your hair? I don't know why you cut your hair like that. He's like, Well, Uncle Phil, it looks like you got a little bit of like a reverse thing going on.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:11

Because he says short on side, long on top, and then Uncle Phil's And then like Viv's like, okay, I'm leaving.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:18

She because they're they're kind of in the middle of it, almost made it sound like she was leaving Uncle Phil.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:23

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:23

She's like, I always thought you could do better on Viv, good for you. Dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:29

And then he says, Don't leave me, he's gonna eat me.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:31

He's gonna eat me. It was really cute.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:35

Oh, dude. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

All right, so he so so Will goes down to the pool hall in the bends, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:41

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:42

And gets hustled at what, $20 a ball?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:46

And he only had he owed him, ended up owing him $500.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:49

I said he gets hustled by a guy who looks like a cross between Warwick Davis and Paul Simon.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

Is that the first guy? The little white guy. I don't know who Warwick Davis is.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:02

He was Willow.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

The troll from Willow?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:06

No. Oh, the wizard.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

I don't remember anything but the troll from Willow.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:12

Well, he played the leprechaun. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:14

Was he was he Professor Flitwick?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:17

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:19

But didn't he? Totally. So uh so then they they won't let Will take his car because he still owes him 300 bucks. So the homeless guy takes him home?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:31

I didn't understand that. What is his role? Because they wake him up on a pool table from being passed out to him.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:37

I'm sorry. The unhoused person takes him home?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:39

But then he acts like he's like the bar's enforcer and maybe the owner of some kind? Because he's got to pay him. Because he's in on it too.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

Yeah, I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:48

I don't understand how these 90s bars.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:50

He was funny. That character was funny. Frank? Was his name Frank?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:52

Yeah, Frank Lomex Jr. He's like, he's like, I'm gonna go see that. Fred. Fred. Sorry, you're right. He's like, maybe I'll see if uh Will's like I g I g I'll see if my brother has any cash. He's like, yeah. That's what I was doing. That's what I was doing. I love stupid jokes like that, but okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:09

So he falls as so Fred goes back home and he falls asleep on the couch. Um Uncle Phil comes in and makes himself a drink. Fred the Holmes guy wakes up, and Uncle Phil is just like he's just heartless. He's just like a he's not really, but he's just so flat, like serious. He's not flat because he's imposing. He's yes, he is, he's he's intimidating for James Avery. And then best thing ever is when he goes and hustles. Even hustles will.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:44

At the pool hall to get not only to get his car, but to he makes tons of money on it.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:49

And then they have a very brief moment where they have a little bit of that cringy sitcom, but with Uncle Phil, it's not the same because he's like, Why are you so hard? Like he's kind of a jerk to him, but it's like in love.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:03

But you could also totally understand why he would be.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:05

Yeah, he was like, This is why I don't want you to go down here, you dummy.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:09

Because you lost my car and $300.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:11

He's like, I'm not trying to want you to get hurt. It was a good lesson.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:14

Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:15

It was a nice, nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:16

And it's just done in a more realistic way, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:18

Yeah. Well, there wasn't a giant fight scene. The hustler guy who uh was I don't know, I can't remember his name. Do you know like the main hustler?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:28

Yeah, the bad dude. I said, where do they find all these bad guys?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:31

He wasn't spinning his pool cue around.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:33

No, he didn't. You know, if all the places where people could be spinning pool pool cues. Also, didn't it look like they were in like the basement of a college building? Like a student center, like a union.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:43

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:44

Again, though, with it looked like he walked in from a hallway, not from an outdoor door. Yeah. And then it's just like this lady's like, here you can have this table. I don't know. The whole setup of the pool hall was didn't really make a lot of sense to me, but I guess I've never really been to a dedicated pool hall.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

You haven't?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:00

I haven't.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:00

I have a couple times. But anyways, the I wrote down that the I like the the month the pool montage choices for Will. It was Snap. This is the second time we've talked about Snap.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:11

Oh, yeah.

unknown 1:14:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:12

I got the power. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:14

And then but for Uncle Phil, it was Sam and Dave's soulmate.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:17

Yeah, yes. That was great.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:19

He's just running the table. That was great. That that that was. I mean, Jeffrey was down to fight. He he said he was a uh walked out. Sparring butler for Chuck Norris.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:32

What is that?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:33

I don't know, but that's so great.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:36

I noticed also there were rice krispy treats in multiple rooms. Every room that they showed had a plate of rice krispy treats on it. In the mansion? Yeah, because Hillary was making rice crispy treats for everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:46

Like constantly.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:47

It's a nice little touch.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:49

It is. Also because rice krispie treats are literally mixing melted marshmallows with cereal. So I feel like that's a very Hillary achievable treat.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:57

That's good. Um I like the that they said no one can hear you scream. The nice little uh alien reference. I liked Hillary's uh When did they say that? Uh Phil told that to Will.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:08

Oh, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:09

Um then uh I liked that uh Fred. Fred, when Fred thought Uncle Phil was the butler, he was like bossing him around telling me what's uh Rob Roy. Uncle Phil's just like, Who are you?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

Get out of my house.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:29

Get out of my house. He just doesn't even I wanted to see him throw him out like jazz, but I thought he might. I yeah, I could I'm like, I don't remember. Maybe he does.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:38

Maybe that's only one a monthly thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:40

Anything else you want to say?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:41

Uh no, but I I would say that had a much more it was like the plot wasn't as deep, but it was also just so much more well executed.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:53

Yeah, I kind of want to watch some more Fresh Princess.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:55

I I totally would watch them. Remember when we downloaded it for the kids and we sat there and watched like five in a row. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:03

Yeah, but I do think they actually ended up watching like a season or two.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:08

I I I bet they watched this episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:10

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:11

You know that we should have had them on.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:12

Oh my gosh, special guests.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:14

I think Caroline kind of wants to come on sometime.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:15

We should let her. You should put her in a song with us sometime.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:18

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:19

Um, we gotta get the harp out.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:22

Oh, are we doing that? Maybe maybe we're doing we're thinking about doing Loveful. Yeah, we might be throwing a little harp in. Throw a harp in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:28

Oh dehoward.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:30

That's all right. The real dead.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:32

All right, that was fun. I loved it.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:34

That was good, good times. Thanks for being a part of that, dear.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:37

Okay, so we got 14 minutes to talk about the cover with the Freight Train.

Libba Cotten And Freight Train

SPEAKER_04 1:16:42

Freight Train by Elizabeth Libba Cotton.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:45

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:47

She um excuse me. She had an interesting life.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:52

I bet she did.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:54

Um what do you know about her? So she she from what I could tell, she named herself because she was in school. And up in that point of her life, she'd only been called Lil Sis.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:05

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:07

So they she decided to call me Elizabeth or Libba or something like that. And then that's how she got her name, apparently. She got married when she was 15. She wrote most of these songs when she was in her teens and as a little kid.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:21

Stink bug on you. Ugh. Sorry, everybody.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:25

You saved my life. Like I'm saying, uh you almost got to kiss my still warm dead body. So I'm definitely stink bugs. What uh what was I saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:37

About how she named herself, got married at 15, wrote her songs as a teenager.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:40

She wrote most of her songs before she had her first kid. Because she had her first kid in her teens. And then she completely stopped, you know, she had to work like raised a child. Raised a child. Back to her roots when she was writing all these songs, so she just loved music.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:59

What years are we talking about? We're talking like 19, early 1900s?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:04

Yeah, early 1900s. Um she was 90 when she won a Grammy in like 1984.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:12

She won a Grammy?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:13

She won a Grammy, and she's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Good for Yeah, we'll we'll work up to that. I don't want to I I I don't know much. I mean, honestly, you could if we re- read the Wikipedia article and then go down a rabbit hole. You'll know what I know. Um But she so she she wrote all these songs, she she was super poor. She lived in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, like UNC. Um she uh saved enough money to to buy a guitar, just making like a dollar a month kind of deal, you know. Which ball a guitar had a classic classic story about the right-handed guitar that she has to play upside down, like um what's his face? Uh one of the kings. Um yes. Played upside down. She developed this thing they call cotton picking.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:05

Um is that where they say you want to have a cotton picking thing? Is that where that came from?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:10

Uh I don't think so. I think that's more probably a plantation term. Gotcha. Uh is innocent. Okay, so she not slavery, um, Leslie's uh ignorance. So it what it is, it's really interesting. If you watch her play, she's playing upside down, so to speak. She plays the melody with her fingers, and unlike Travis Picking, which is like with the thumb, like Chet Atkins or Will Travis, she's playing finger picking with her um with the bass notes. And she plays with her thumb on the uh it's it's just really interesting to watch somebody finger picking that way.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:54

Upside down like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:55

Yeah, and it creates a different sound. Did you have you listened to her play? I've watched it. She's an amazing guitar player.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:01

Um so, anyways, she went on, she was the I want to say the um let's just say housekeeper, for lack of a better term, or an accurate one, uh, for the Seeger family. So you know like Pete Seeger?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:15

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:16

Yeah. Um Pete Seeger did uh Turn Turn Turn. Yeah. Like where the birds ended up.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:23

Uh he did um He was kind of like an American songwriter, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:28

Kiss is sweeter than one.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:29

I know she I think he's got some there's this there's this set of book books called the Great America Get America Singing Again.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:36

Or the Great American Songbook or something like that. And I think there's a lot of Pete Seeger stuff in there.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:41

Oh, okay. Yeah, he was I mean, so the whole Seeger family was I I don't know a ton about them, but like Peggy Seeger really got had a respect because she he she found that she could sing. I don't remember exactly how she found out that she had a lot of musical chops because she hadn't played Elizabeth hadn't played in decades. She quit to go be a mom and work and work and support provide for her family. Somehow it got on Peggy's radar. She heard some songs, she heard like freight train. Peggy went to the UK and was got involved with some musicians over there. She was I think I think the story is that she was kind of innocently sharing these songs while some greedier folks picked that up. So I can't remember the the names of the actual artists who who who made it big on these songs, but they didn't give her any credit. She ended up having to Elizabeth Cotton for these songs that she wrote a long time when she was a child.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:36

Which we haven't even talked about freight train, but when she was a child, she she ended up having to split the shares of the writing credits with two people who didn't write. Yeah. Anyways.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:48

The world's an ugly place.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:50

Yeah. But a lot of people kind of over the years, and she lost she lost credits on other things. Like she wrote, like, do you ever listen to um Shake Sugary? That's a her her daughter, granddaughter, who kind of like decided like the lyrics to that, she was helping her like write write it write the song, like giving it like sugary was like her granddaughter's word, I guess. Her granddaughter went on to be in the band, the group uh Undisputed Truth, who did like smiling faces, smiling faces can lie. Okay. You know what you know that song? It's like a soul funk group. Okay. Anyways, it's kind of cool. I I you know I always love stuff like that. But uh she so, anyways, all these people kind of came to find that Elizabeth Cotton is just a wonderful songwriter. Freight Train, who doesn't who can I mean that song is a banger. It's so good. It's such a good song. I love this song so much. Like, I know I say that about every song that I that I pick, but I really love this song. And um it's just undeniably amazing. And so she, like I said, she won a Grammy for her work uh and when she was 90 years old. Eventually she got the the notoriety she got or the um what's the word? The recognition.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:06

Yeah I don't know. I like notoriety.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:08

Okay, let's go with that. Um, I think she was posthumously awarded the Rock and Hall of Fame just for all the influence she she had. So speaking of the UK, you could you could argue, and this is going on a limb, but you could argue that the Beatles might not be the Beatles had it not been for Elizabeth Cotton.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:27

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:28

Because they the quarrymen were playing her stuff, and that was the Beatles before Pete Best was the driver and everything.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:34

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:35

So like they were influenced by her back then. Dire indirectly, but basically directly. Like these people would not have been hearing this.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:42

What I'm really glad you looked all this up.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:43

Yeah, it's really interesting. Like it's very, very fascinating. And I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:47

Good job, Elizabeth, and all your descendants.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:49

Yeah, yeah. Good work. Good work. So a ton of people covered this song. I her, you know, one of my favorite versions was this is another song that I feel like I've always known. But the time that I remember really being like, whoa, what oh, this is a good song, was when Jerry Garcia and David Grisman did it on Not for Kids Only.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:09

Shout out to Dwangle for introducing me to that album. That's a great album. That whole album's great.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:13

Well, I was gonna say, I was like, ooh, this would be great. They would do a great cover of this. And then I was like, oh, it's already on there. That's why they thought it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:22

We are in our cover of it, we um so I like finger picking. This is one of the few songs I can actually kind of pick. Yeah. And like pick the melody while doing some approximation of the bass work, etc. Um, I love it. I love the song, it's fun to pick. Uh one the one reason is I can play it, but that's the reason I learned it is because I uh like it. So, and then Leslie and I sang it together. Uh no fancy harmonies or anything. I try to keep a rhythm that was like training, a little trainy, which you know, I thought it was fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:59

Training.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:00

And then oh, oh. And then you played Um guitar.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:07

I did.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:08

And sang with me. I did. And then I did little fills in in between. That was nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:12

You guys will know if you want to check that out and you're uh listening to the uh on a podcast platform, you'll have to go to YouTube to watch us. Yes. Where you can subscribe, like, and comment.

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Do all sorts of things. Email, review things, email, share.

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SPEAKER_04 1:25:28

Uh give us points.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:29

Apparently, that's something you can do now on YouTube videos.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:32

You can get points? I saw that last night. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:34

I don't know. I just uh we grossed me out, so I didn't investigate further.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:40

We should probably learn these things, but I don't care. I'm not going to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:42

That feels very black mirror to me, so yeah, that's the world we're living in. Anyway. Alright.

B-Sides Covers Soundtrack Picks

SPEAKER_02 1:25:49

Do you want to talk uh B-sides and covers? Yeah, we got five minutes.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:52

Let's go ahead and wrap it up. So B-side. B-side. What's your B-side for this?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:58

Okay, you're not gonna know it, but you won't know mine either, so cool. There's a singer that I like. Her name is Bella White, and I guess she's a bluegrass folk singer. Okay. And she has a song called Just Like Leaving.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:10

Just Like Leaving.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:11

Uh-huh. And I really like it, and I think it would be a wonderful B-side. And the way she does a little bit, because you know, like Elizabeth Cotton's a little all over the place on her. It's hard to nail down exactly what pitches she might be on sometimes. And it's not like it's bad, but like when you're trying to learn it, it's you have to really listen to her.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:30

I got a feeling that it she may be, and I'm just talking down my butt here, but you know, like a lot of guitar players, musicians in general, but I'm obviously very familiar with a lot of the guitar examples, they never play the same same way twice. Yeah. Like I wonder if she doesn't sing the same way twice. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:44

But this but there's a little bit of that, like uh it's not really the same thing, but there's she has some like loose quality to her singing.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:53

It's a little sloppy.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:54

Yeah. Yeah. And I wouldn't say that Bella White is sloppy, but there's a looseness to it.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:59

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:59

So that's mine, Just Like Leaving by Bella White.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:02

Okay, what's your beast?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:03

My first thought, and I'll only give two. But my first thought was Blown in the Wind. Oh, yeah. Bob Dylan. That's lame. I mean, yeah. Yeah. But I was just thinking like the escape. Freight train. Can I just say because I I I I love the melody. I love the words, but the words I can't believe a little kid wrote this song.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:23

Hard living, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:24

It's all about escape.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:26

Hard living.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:27

It's not about it's not like she was like a train freak.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:29

I don't think our children or us.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:31

Escape, but also escape through death.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:34

Dude, this song is this is a song, this song is like sad and beautiful, and it's so good. It's such a good song.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:43

Anyway, so major three.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:46

Um oh, is that when they go see E7?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:48

Mm-hmm. Look at me.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:51

Look at me. Major three guys. They call me major three.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:55

So Ninety hours in.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:58

Ninety hours in. And you

SPEAKER_02 1:28:00

Finally learned about a major three.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:01

I don't know. It's a high estimate. We're getting there. Okay, so uh I'm gonna go with C is the People's Key by Jim Stanky.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:12

I don't know that you're right.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:13

I actually know how to say his last name. Uh spell it. S T E I N K E.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:21

S-T-E-I-N-K-E. I'd say that's Stanky.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:25

Stinky? Yeah. Sounds good. Jim, if you're out there. I don't think he's a very well-known guitar player. Um, but he's a great guitar player.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:32

You should maybe get a stage name.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:34

This song, I I love that song. It's a beautiful song. Check it out. If you like just instrumental.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:39

Say the name of it one more time.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:40

C is the people's key.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:42

It's uh just an instrumental acoustic guitar song.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:45

All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:46

It's just really nice. And just reminds me that I think he I've even heard him.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:50

Is it is it in C?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:51

I think I've even heard him cover this. It is in C, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:54

So is Frat Train. Is is Freight Train in C or did we just do it in C?

unknown 1:28:59

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:59

I yeah, she did most of her songs in either C or G. Okay. Um I believe it was in C.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:05

Uh Soundtrack. I got a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:07

Uh we're not cover, we're just going to soundtrack.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:09

Oh, I forgot about cover.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:10

Well, if yeah, if you could hear anybody cover this song.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:14

I forgot what I wrote.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:16

Well, then I'll take you on a journey while you look it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:18

Oh, I do. I have it. I have it. Do you want to take me on a journey first?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:23

So pretty much any folksy semi-bluesy song like this, I could pretty much always hear Hendrix do it. Uh-huh. But I can't remember when the last time I said use Hendrix for my cover, so I'm not going to use him.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:34

Everybody's covered this song. Okay. This song's been covered a million different ways. I so I was thinking, who would I who could I listen to that just died shortly after it became a hit? You know, not when it was written, but when it actually the world knew it. I thought I'd like to hear Django Reinhardt do a jazz uh gypsy guitar version of it. But I'm thinking Duke Ellington. Like I've never heard of Big Band version.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:00

Oh, that would be cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:01

So yeah, big band version would be s that'd be something I'd be interested in.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:05

I feel like it would change something about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:07

Yeah. I kind of well I'd be interested in hearing what a good composer could do with this, like Gershwin or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:14

I went, I went with Gershwin would be good because he did like Porgy and Bess and maybe it's a little bit like that Jean Boucher.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:21

Which Gershwin. Uh you know, is that that guy's name?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:24

Yeah, he would probably have a great version of it. Uh I I said let's get the quartet that did goat rodeo sessions to do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:32

Oh, yeah.

unknown 1:30:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:33

So yo-yo ma, Chris Thyle, Edgar Meyer Meyer, and Stuart Duncan. Stuart Duncan.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:41

Yeah. Um, yes, we you I'm trying to think what we picked them for. We picked them for a song way back.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:48

Oh, did we? Yeah, it'll be in the Jeffries data sheet. Oh, check it out. Go at Radio Sessions. Okay, soundtrack.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:53

Soundtrack. I'm going with Stand by Me.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:56

Oh, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:56

I was talking about Stand by Me with Seth today. And I was thinking about the train scene and uh and the also has the same kind of whimsical felt semi-dark tones.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:06

Well, uh kind of in the semi-dark whimsy. I went with an old Mary Melodies Looney Tunes. It would go nicely over like a Bugs Bunny.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:18

Yes, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:20

So very good.

Wrap Up And High Fives

SPEAKER_02 1:31:22

We did it, Rob. It's 8 30. We have one second.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:27

And our camera failed, and we still Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:29

We are the High Fives of the Planet. Hey guys, thanks for coming. You need to make some more shorts. Those were good.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:40

I'm gonna make the Jeffries better. I'm gonna do, I'm gonna add, we're gonna add a heavy.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:44

Can you just cancel your sermons? I'm sure they can find someone else to do that. That's not a bad idea. Yeah, it's a good idea. Yeah, Aaron. He's not getting paid. Aaron's the he's the payer of the church.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:55

But uh I want to do that. I want to uh this is so much I want to add the the lines, the green screen lines.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:01

That's right, with people behind us. Yeah. Will they move every once in a while?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:05

I don't know what I want to do. I want to try. I told you I want to turn it into like a Christmas screensaver.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:09

High fives of the planet, we're out of here, guys. We'll see ya.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:12

Bye.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:14

Love you so much.